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WMRE 20 Years Ago This September - A Great Experiment

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Casablance

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Twenty years ago this September WMRE embarked on a great experiment to go back to its roots. WMRE which had in its last incarnation adopted a "memories" music format drove the station into bankruptcy under incompetent ownership.

As a final gasp 1510 went back to its roots as a local talk station. For those who do not have a history of the dial position 1510 was the home of WMEX and the number one talk station in the late 1950's with the likes of Jerry Williams and Arnie Woo Woo Ginsburg.

Under the unlikely direction of the infamous Jack Roberts, late of WRKO, they turned WMRE back to talk. They were even in the very same "historic" building attached to Fenway Park where WMEX was located. They even had much of the same 'MEX equipment including a studio organ.

As might be expected, Jack Roberts broke all the rules of radio. Particularly, he encouraged all on-air talent to mention the call letters of other stations in the market. He did not believe in that fraudulent argument that the average listener is too stupid to know what station he is tuned to and if you mention another station the listener will get confused.

They had array on-air talent including Bob Cusack as News Director, Hilary Stevens and the very talented and sadly late Marsha Masters in the morning.

Much credit has to be given to Tony Pepper who in addition to having his own 2-6 talk show was our guide, support and coach during those "interesting" days...or was it "daze." Unlike much of the undercurrent talk about Tony he was both a team leader and team player a good friend and a nice guy whose ego was always in check.

With no night time signal the evening shift was more than a challenge. The signal had deteriorated even from the old MEX days but it was a great experience for this poster and new ground was broken in areas that WRKO and WBZ had not gone.

A real jewel in the overnight was Bob Katzen. When no one else could make the phones ring Bob could with his great sense of fun, timing and on-air game shows. As you may know, Bob Katzen was one of the original "Governors" on with Jerry Williams in the 80's and he runs one of the State House news services. Why WBZ has not picked up Bob for the overnight or some other station is a mystery to me. Bob is a contemporary Larry Glick.

Well, WMRE was an experience. I am sure I left out many other talents who were there as WMRE headed into Chapter 11 and never came out

Any other "alums" of WMRE should add their thoughts.
 
Am not an alum but I remember WMRE right around then. I did listen to Bob Katzen and also to Morgan White Jr.'s Talking Trivia on the weekends. 20 years ago last month I started working for the postal service, at first
second shift and then overnights and I'd listen at work. I believe WMRE went under in early 1987 and somewhere I have 90 minutes of the last Talking Trivia there: "If you have won prizes from this show, or any other show, and you need to pick them up, let me tell you: I wouldn't wait too long if I were you," said Morgan on the air. "Pick them up during business hours here as soon as you can."

Morgan's producer "The Flicker" also had some kind of Sunday morning show playing old cartoon theme songs and such, "The Fun Show". I believe Morgan also had a Friday night show about gambling, "Lady Luck".

There was a farewell party for WMRE held at the Breakfast Club (corner of Boylston and Brookline Ave.), and since I had Wed. nights off (it was a Wed. night), I went. Bob Katzen was there along with someone else who helped him out (he had some character like Finkel Fox or something)...other staffers as well...

Morgan's last Talking Trivia show had a goodbye "High Five" contest: which Boston radio personality said
goodbye in five languages? (hint: "let me check (whistles)"); which cast members of the Beverly Hillbillies
were seen at the end waving goodbye? In what movie do the Jackson 5ive perform Never Can Say
Goodbye...what Monkees song ends with Bye bye, bye bye, etc.

"Stay on top...1510...WMRE".

I hope to put up the Talking Trivia show as an mp3 file but for now:

Bob Katzen promo
http://wmwm.250free.com/wmrebobkatzen.mp3

Talking Trivia/Morgan White Jr clip
http://wmwm.250free.com/wmremorgan.mp3
 
Casablance said:
As a final gasp 1510 went back to its roots as a local talk station. For those who do not have a history of the dial position 1510 was the home of WMEX and the number one talk station in the late 1950's with the likes of Jerry Williams and Arnie Woo Woo Ginsburg.

WMEX was not predominantly a talk station in the late 1950's. It was a Top 40 rock'n'roll station. Arnie Ginsburg played rock'n'roll, as did all their daytime DJ's. They went talk only late at night after Ginsburg's show ended at 10 PM. Talk personalties such as Williams and later Larry Glick and Steve Fredericks had shows only late at night.

Casablance said:
With no night time signal the evening shift was more than a challenge. The signal had deteriorated even from the old MEX days...

A few years before 1510 became WMRE (when it was WITS), the transmitter was moved from the old WMEX Quincy site to the present WWZN site in Waltham, and was 50,000 watts full-time. The old WMEX site in Quincy was always 5,000 watts at night, and the directional pattern did not cover even the immediate west suburbs within Route 128 well at all.

Though the Waltham site has always been highly directional especially at night, the 50 kW signal beamed toward Boston was much improved over the immediate Boston metro and the north and west suburbs within Route 128. The old WMEX Quincy site did well skipping up the New England coastline at night and was good in downtown Boston and the Boston urban neighborhoods, but was very weak in the north and west suburbs where the Waltham site was strong. Neither site went well outside Route 128 at night due to required directional patterns, but I'd say that WMRE from the Waltham site had (and still has) better coverage of more of metro Boston within Route 128 than the WMEX Quincy site ever did.

However, I had heard that the Waltham site may have been functioning in a state of disrepair during the WMRE era, and may not have been putting out it's full 50 kW for parts of that time.
 
I believe I have a recording of the end of WMRE back in 1987. Before they pulled the switch that night, they played announcement stating that WMRE was going off the air persuant to FCC Rules and Regulations "Authority To Remain Silent". Then they played a short montage of jingles including some of the stations' past incarnations as WMEX ("Sonovox"), WITS and WMRE ("The Memory Station"). Then they played Bruce Springsteen's "The Sad Final Scene" (or something like that). The carrier was pulled right after the last note. The station would not return until the summer of '87 as WSSH.

Mariner Communications/WITS attempted to become an all-oldies station prior to the "Memory Station" days and even tried to regain the WMEX call-letters. But a 3,000 watt FM station in Clyde, Ohio already had the 'MEX call-letters and would not release them for 1510's use. So, 1510 nixed that idea and opted to go with WMRE with "Music Of Your Death", standards ;) . Some people (in the business) called the new 1510 "WMRE.....Just a memory of what it used to be". Oh, well.

WMEX was great Top-40 station. But as soon as WRKO, and for that matter FM radio came on the scene.... it was on borrowed time. Without an FM counterpart to back it up, WMEX just could not survive. It was too bad. The Richmond Brothers (WMEX's past owners) really dropped the ball on that one.
 
One famous story floating around WMRE Alums involves a rather self possessed talent at the station who shall remain nameless.

As it often did in the final days of WMRE the power shut down and the PD allegedly directed this unnamed "star" to go into the studio and announce that we were off the air.... ;)

Legend has it this "star" did exactly that.

Ted Baxter actually lived ;)
 
Peter Q. George (K1XRB) said:
Mariner Communications/WITS attempted to become an all-oldies station prior to the "Memory Station" days and even tried to regain the WMEX call-letters. But a 3,000 watt FM station in Clyde, Ohio already had the 'MEX call-letters and would not release them for 1510's use. So, 1510 nixed that idea...

How long did the Ohio station have those call letters? Greater Media got them for their four-year 1150 AM oldies attempt which started in 1985...

If Mariner had gotten them, it would've been even sadder for us radio nostalgia-mongers to have watched a revived oldies WMEX on 1510 most likely eventually fail to WODS and the eventual switch of almost all music radio to FM, plus the aging of the 50's/60's oldies demo becoming less attractive to advertisers...
 
Is this the same Morgan White who fills in on occassion at WBZ and does Trivia Contests around the South Shore??????

I've never seen anything remotely comparable to his knowledge of everything, anything, and nothing at all.
 
Eli Polonsky said:
If Mariner had gotten them, it would've been even sadder for us radio nostalgia-mongers to have watched a revived oldies WMEX on 1510 most likely eventually fail to WODS and the eventual switch of almost all music radio to FM, plus the aging of the 50's/60's oldies demo becoming less attractive to advertisers...

IMHO it's just as well that the WMEX calls never returned to 1510. The WMEX we all know & loved was cool because it reflected it's era (essentially early rock & roll thru the British invasion) and connected with a generation. A reconstituted WMEX would have just been an imitator and disappointing. The 1150 incarnation was an OK oldies station, but it wasn't the "real" WMEX. That WMEX died with Mac Richmond.
 
Don't forget the failed attempt of the Langer-Bleidt group renting the WMEX call letters [now WBIX].
 
Yes, in fact he is filling in for Steve Leveille on WBZ tonight.

salesdawg said:
Is this the same Morgan White who fills in on occassion at WBZ and does Trivia Contests around the South Shore??????

I've never seen anything remotely comparable to his knowledge of everything, anything, and nothing at all.
 
Peter Q. George (K1XRB) said:
WMEX was great Top-40 station. But as soon as WRKO, and for that matter FM radio came on the scene.... it was on borrowed time. Without an FM counterpart to back it up, WMEX just could not survive. It was too bad. The Richmond Brothers (WMEX's past owners) really dropped the ball on that one.

WMEX did manage to hold out for some time against WRKO. WRKO came on in March, 1967. WMEX held out as a Top 40
station, until March, 1975, when it initially flipped to an MOR type of format, followed by talk in 1976, and WITS in 1978.
By the mid 70s, alot of Top 40 AMs, were in trouble. WRKO held out as a Top 40 station, until some point in 1981, when it also, initially went to kind of an MOR/Oldies format, before flipping to talk....
 
Oldbones was it Mac Richmond or Max Richmond? I seem to recall that when Mac or Max left this mortal coil the brother came in like the Wicked Witch of the West or something and John H. Garabedian was not happy.

In a strange twist of fate (well, maybe not so strange seeing that there aren't that many signals around),
after John H. (Garabedian, as he was called in those days) broke "Maggie Mae" and "J'taime" (spelling?) and other hits on WMEX and the latter Richmond brother allegedly changed the business parameters, John H went out to WGTR in Natick where he might've broke or at least played Dr. Buzzard's Savannah Band and other disco hits. Yes, Disco was on the wall when I visited out there. Then WGTR went black and centuries later...ok, maybe a few years, Alex Langer put it back on the air as whatever it was before it became WBIX - or maybe it was WBIX.

RE: Bob Katzen - he did a radio program called The Gay Dating Show on WUNR probably back in the late 80's or early 90s. "That's What Friends Are For" was the theme song to the show.

Alex Langer, John H. Garabedian, Bob Katzen - all nice people. Last time I saw John H. was at Joe Perry's Somerville apartment a few weeks after his first son by Billie Montgomery was born - Tony Perry - Thanksgiving 1986...yikes...20 years ago...my God...Billie asked me to hold the baby...."I do not want to drop this billion dollar baby..."

John H. Garabedian was the only person in the world to play Maggie Mae by Rod Stewart; Mercury Records wanted "Reason To Believe" and John ignored them (well, he played the original A side, Reason To Believe, a little) and kept playing Maggie Mae and made it the classic it is today. It probably never would've happened without him.

To show how times have changed Daniel Powter's "Bad Day" needs Showtime's "Weeds" and American Idol to break on through to the other side. 30 years ago WMEX and John H could've done it for him!
 
Varulven said:
... John H went out to WGTR in Natick where he might've broke or at least played Dr. Buzzard's Savannah Band and other disco hits. Yes, Disco was on the wall when I visited out there. Then WGTR went black and centuries later...ok, maybe a few years, Alex Langer put it back on the air as whatever it was before it became WBIX - or maybe it was WBIX.

Actually, a lot happened to 1060 in between Garabedian, Langer, and then WBIX.

After Garabedian's rock and then (very briefly) disco format on WGTR, he switched it to all-news for a few years in the late 70's, then it was leased to the Texas-based "Stardust" satellite big band and adult standards format as WSTD.

Then Pat Whitley took over in the early 80's and flipped it to talk as WTTP "Talk that Touches the People". That couldn't stay afloat locally, and it soon switched to ABC's "Talkradio" satellite in the mid 80's.

By the late 80's, 1060 was bought by Satellite Radio Networks and renamed WBIV "Boston's Inspirational Voice", broadcasting both English and Spanish religious programming, much of it brokered, until 1994. I was a board-op there in the early 90's. Walter Dixon, also now a WBUR engineer and announcer, worked there and did a folk program on Sunday afternoons.

In late 1994 SRN put on 890 AM (now ESPN radio WAMG) and briefly used it and 1060 as a day/night swap operation as WBMA, then shut off 1060 shortly after, and it went dark for a bit over two years.

Alex Langer bought the 1060 license in 1995 and put it back on the air (in AM Stereo!!) in 1997 as WJLT "Jesus the LighT", programming leased out to a satellite Christian outfit.

In 2000 he moved WJLT to his 650 AM station that was WRPT (now WSRO), and boosted 1060 to 40,000 watts daytime (but dumped the AM Stereo) as Boston's third WMEX, a new talk station with Jerry Williams, Gene Burns, Marjorie Clapprood, and Upton Bell.

This didn't last, and in 2001 Langer leased the station to the Bleidt's and they flipped it to WBIX, business news. Bleidt bought the station in late 2003, and what happened the next year was a very well publicized scandal that I'll forego recounting.

Langer took the station back in 2005 and continues to operate it as WBIX, with satellite business talk.
 
WMEX was the best top 40 station in Boston... period. From the 1950's days with Arnie Ginsburg right up through the Garabedian period of the 70's, that station defied every other top 40 station by deliberately doing things the others wouldn't. They weren't afraid to play the Stones' 'Let's Spend The Night Together,' when other stations played the flip side and made 'Ruby Tuesday' the hit even though that was never intended as the A side of that record. In the later 60's when WRKO was burying WMEX, they turned to mixing in album cuts. And this was before FM album rock really took off. Had they played their cards right, WMEX could have bought an FM license and they might still be around today. Unfortunately, radio today is so fragmented, we'll probably never see a real top 40 station again. Too bad. But it's a great memory.
 
REUNION ??? Re: WMRE 20 Years Ago This September - A Great Experiment

Any WMRE 1510 Talk alums interested in a reunion ?
 
salesdawg said:
Is this the same Morgan White who fills in on occassion at WBZ and does Trivia Contests around the South Shore??????

I've never seen anything remotely comparable to his knowledge of everything, anything, and nothing at all.

Casablance said:
Yes, in fact he is filling in for Steve Leveille on WBZ tonight.

I ran into Morgan last night and mentioned seeing his name on this message board.........he asked that I tell everyone that he'll be filling in at 'BZ on Labor Day weekend Sunday night at midnight.
 
Peter Q. George (K1XRB) said:
I believe I have a recording of the end of WMRE back in 1987. Before they pulled the switch that night, they played announcement stating that WMRE was going off the air persuant to FCC Rules and Regulations "Authority To Remain Silent". Then they played a short montage of jingles including some of the stations' past incarnations as WMEX ("Sonovox"), WITS and WMRE ("The Memory Station"). Then they played Bruce Springsteen's "The Sad Final Scene" (or something like that). The carrier was pulled right after the last note. The station would not return until the summer of '87 as WSSH.

Quick hijack: was this it: ("The Famous Final Scene")[urlhttp://www.tophitsonline.com/lyrics.php?songid=26276][/url]

Beautiful slow song by Bob Seger, seems like it would have been just perfect for the occasion.
 
I agree regarding WMEX's important place in Boston Radio / Rock and Roll history.

The station pioneered the rock and roll format in Boston, adopting the format in--I believe--1957 and remained a current pop-rock and roll station right through 1975.

Arnie Ginsburg had probably the first "rock and roll oldies" program (his Sunday Night Show) in New England, playing early rock artists from the 50s to the teenage audience of the mid-1960s. This is how I learned a lot of my rock and roll history.

WMEX always had a more daring playlist. In the early and mid-60s, they played far more of a selection than rival WBZ, including locals like Teddy And The Pandas and The Rockin' Ramrods which BZ wouldn't (or couldn't) touch. Later around 1970, they started to mix in album cuts under John Garabedian (in an era where FM radios were still not generally in cars). During this time, WMEX beat WRKO (with their extremely limited playlist) in a couple of key demos. Amazing, when you consider the signal differences of the two stations at the time.

Jerry Williams pioneered the talk format at WMEX in the late 1950s, during the station's post 10 PM talk block. I believe that he was the first person to even take calls and patch them on the air so that the listeners could hear both ends of the conversation.

WMEX always sounded high energy and vibrant. As mentioned before, Mac Richmond was a madman to work for, but you have to give him credit for keeping WMEX a major player and innovator on a signal which was always less than desirable.

Rumor has it that Mac was ready to buy WBCN at the time of his death in 1971. If that was true, how history might have changed!
 
Re: WMRE - Have Large Studio Reel to Reel of Final Broadcasts

I have a large studio reel to reel tape of the last broadcasts of WMRE but no way to play them.

Can they be transferred - how and where and how much ?

Thanks
 
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