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WMRN, 102.5 Zanesville Status

Whats the current timeline as to when WVIZ 102.5 (zanesville) will move into the Columbus market? Same for WMRN 106.9 in Marion I know there was talk about moving into Dublin?
 
WMRN has approval to change city of license but their construction permit application shows as "blocked" on the FCC list with "$ competition analysis pending" as the reason.

I don't know of any timeline for WHIZ FM. Their parent company is probably trying to find another FM to buy first. They already tried to get a deal for WCVZ but it fell through.
 
Anything new on the WHIZ move to Baltimore? Seems like all of the talk of this move died....did the move die too? How have WHIZ -FM's ratings been the last couple years since they lost their morning show guy?
 
LittleJerrySeinfeld said:
Anything new on the WHIZ move to Baltimore? Seems like all of the talk of this move died....did the move die too? How have WHIZ -FM's ratings been the last couple years since they lost their morning show guy?

WHIZ has been granted a CP. It's just a matter of time. The replacement station for WHIZ will be on 96.7 by way of a convoluted swap involving a station in Wellston. The new WHIZ-FM (or whatever they decide to call it will be a class B1 licensed to Frazeysburg with a tower located in between Newark and Z-ville. WCMJ Cambridge will move to 102.7. WBIK will also move its tower (and increase HAAT)

The WMRN application is still pending. I see no reason it won't be eventually granted, but is going to take more time
 
The WKOV-FM App:

http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/...xt=25&appn=101180415&formid=301&fac_num=29691

Click here for the rest of the article:

http://zanesvilletimesrecorder.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070609/NEWS01/706090302/1002/NEWS01

New radio tower could affect Zanesville, Cambridge
By BRIAN GADD
Staff Writer

While there are still pending plans for Southeastern Ohio Broadcasting to build a radio tower in northwest Fairfield County, two other companies are also making plans which could affect the local airwaves.

The latest plan is being proposed by American Media Services of Illinois, a radio station brokerage firm which is looking at property on Cottage Hill Road in the Nashport/Frazeysburg area.

The company is providing assistance to Jackson County Broadcasting to help move the WKOV-FM 96.7 signal to this area.

Donald Lynch of AMS filed paperwork with the Federal Communications Commission or a change in COL, or Community of License, from Wellston to Frazeysburg
 
With the 102.5 move in would that mean the end of the low power 102.1?
 
xiradiodotcom said:
Wow. Funny how one influenced the other. I wonder how fast CC will act on this?

There were 2 other stations and the 106.7 translator here in Columbus that had to move and sign-off to allow WMRN to move to Dublin. The 2 moves are in Chillicothe and Hillsboro. Those changes were tied to this move, so since it's been approved, those changes should go through quickly, and then they can sign-on from Westerville. Once the other moves happen it should be extremely quick since the bays are already on the tower?
 
columbus radio fan said:
xiradiodotcom said:
Wow. Funny how one influenced the other. I wonder how fast CC will act on this?

There were 2 other stations and the 106.7 translator here in Columbus that had to move and sign-off to allow WMRN to move to Dublin. The 2 moves are in Chillicothe and Hillsboro. Those changes were tied to this move, so since it's been approved, those changes should go through quickly, and then they can sign-on from Westerville. Once the other moves happen it should be extremely quick since the bays are already on the tower?

Well it's been waiting in the wings for quite awhile now. I'm sure all the details CC had to take care of on their end have been ready to go for some time.

Interesting though that Columbus is now considered a larger market... (44 and under as opposed to 45 and up). So now CC can have up to 8 stations with no more than five on FM correct? So in theory they could pick up another AM if they should so desire? How fast before they drive another signal on the AM band into the ground a la WYTS :)
 
Like I just said in another post, CC has great lawyers. 

It's interesting how a federal regulatory agency like the FCC makes big decisions based on data from private companies like BIA and Arbitron.  To some extent, their definitions of a market will always be arbitrary.

BTW, I'm surprised at the number of typos I see in these FCC documents.  WNRM? 
 
When Jacor (now Clear Channel) bought Nationwide, they ended up with the following FM signals in the Columbus market:

1. 92.3
2. 95.5
3. 96.3
4. 97.9
5. 98.9
6. 105.7
7. 107.1

The Department of Justice told them they had too much control in the market, so they were forced to divest several stations. The stations they sold were:

1. 95.5
2. 96.3
3. 98.9
4. 107.1

...which left them with 3 stations...

1. 92.3
2. 97.9
3. 105.7

Since then, Clear Channel has been able to move 105.7 into Columbus from Marysville, 93.3 into Columbus from Chillicothe, and now 106.7 into Columbus from Marion.

Now their line up consists of:

1. 92.3
2. 93.3
3. 97.9
4. 105.7
5. 106.7

If the Department of Justice allowed them to have only 3 FM signals in the market in the 1990s because of concerns regarding the amount of control they have, why have they now allowed them to add two more signals that were moved in from smaller markets 50 miles away, especially when the FCC "claims" they don't allow small market stations to move to larger markets just in order to increase revenue. Not only did they permit it twice, they actually rubber stamped the applications for four moves because they allowed Hillsboro to be moved to Chillicothe to replace the the station that was moved to Columbus, and they also allowed the Upper Sandusky station to be moved to Marion to replace the station there that will be moved to Columbus. The FCC has a very bad habit of saying one thing while doing the exact opposite. It's also unfortunate that the FCC ended up leaving Highland County with only a 250 watt daytime AM station (unless you count their 25 watt night signal), and Wyandotte County without any commercial station at all. How is that in the public interest for those counties? How will the people there be informed when the next tornado blows through?
 
CatFM said:
It's also unfortunate that the FCC ended up leaving Highland County with only a 250 watt daytime AM station (unless you count their 25 watt night signal), and Wyandotte County without any commercial station at all. How is that in the public interest for those counties?

Don't worry about Highland County. I'm sure some Christian money-grubber will dredge up some kind of frequency to bring more "Christian" satellite programming to the unsaved in Highland County!

On another note, I noticed 104.1 WPAY was booming in loud and clear in Pickerington tonight over my car radio. Just like Florida where 100,000 watts goes forever! I was also getting faint Fort Wayne signals. Must be a great night for DX-ing.
 
Uh oh...there's an image appearing in the 106.7 crystal ball...it's Rascal Flatts praying in a snowstorm!  That means (1) another country - aargh!...or (2)  another Christian - double aargh!...or (3) the nations first year-round all-Christmas - triple aargh!


Wait, wait, a new image is displacing that one.  What's that...it's Ashville...oh, no, a simulcast of 93.3!                    AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!    AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!    AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!

(sfx:  crystal ball smashing to ground and shattering into a million pieces)
 
Nu_Roo_2 said:
Like I just said in another post, CC has great lawyers.

Red herring. Had nothing to do with the merits of whether or not the move should have been granted. Even if the FCC held CC to 4 stations, they would have conditioned the move on divestment of one of CC's other stations.
 
Nu_Roo_2 said:
BTW, I'm surprised at the number of typos I see in these FCC documents. WNRM?

Not so surprising. Take a look at the names at the FCC. They're mostly foreigners. The government seems to have concluded in their typically delusional way that it is now un-American to hire Americans, and the FCC is no exception. As you pointed out, it's especially alarming when they can't even get the call signs of the stations correct!
 
CatFM said:
If the Department of Justice allowed them to have only 3 FM signals in the market in the 1990s because of concerns regarding the amount of control they have, why have they now allowed them to add two more signals that were moved in from smaller markets 50 miles away, especially when the FCC "claims" they don't allow small market stations to move to larger markets just in order to increase revenue. Not only did they permit it twice, they actually rubber stamped the applications for four moves because they allowed Hillsboro to be moved to Chillicothe to replace the the station that was moved to Columbus, and they also allowed the Upper Sandusky station to be moved to Marion to replace the station there that will be moved to Columbus. \

I think that's the whole interesting thing about this whole move. In the '90s Clear Channel was bound to a different set of rules than they are now because of the move in by WHIZ. WHIZ put Columbus over 45 stations in the market (whereas before there were 44 according to this document). That loosened up the restrictions on Clear Channel. Now they are bound to a different rule which allows them more.

The way this seems to be worded the FCC is acknowledging (probably officially for the first time) that some of those other move ins are part of the Columbus market anyway since they needed to address that part of the objection. They can allow them now that Columbus is over the 45 station milestone.

Was it smarmy? Absolutely. But the way it looks at this point, CC is within the limits of the law.
 
CBusDave said:
Was it smarmy?

What's so smarmy about it? It is what it is. There are now 45 stations so CC gets the benefit of different rules. Although I hate CC on the programming side, I absolutely love them on the engineering side. CC is one of the few radio broadcasters willing to invest money to acquire and move in good signals. Not just here, but in most other cities where they operate. If not for CC really starting this whole move-in revolution, we'd still be listening to a bunch of class-A rimshots right now.

Look at their competition -- they have always been to CHEAP to do what it takes to bring good signals to this market. As for Highland Co. losing their FM? Who cares? It was wasted there anyway.
 
xiradiodotcom said:
boyphenom said:
As for Highland Co. losing their FM? Who cares? It was wasted there anyway.

http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/vacant?select=city&city=hillsboro&state=oh&x=0&y=0

Looks like plenty of open spectrum to start up a nice FM station there. People just Complain instead of doing something.

The Wolfes (and others) could have thrown money at WBNS (and other stations) to fix their signal problems, but they were either too cheap, complacent or uncreative too attack their problems. CC stepped up to the plate and not only acquired some good signals, but was also going to throw some money at WTVN to fix their nighttime signal. Other people could have tried to move in a few AM stations like WWVA to this under-radioed market but only CC was willing to step up to the plate ... now you have people who sat on their hands complaining about how CC has run rings around them.
 
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