• Get involved.
    We want your input!
    Apply for Membership and join the conversations about everything related to broadcasting.

    After we receive your registration, a moderator will review it. After your registration is approved, you will be permitted to post.
    If you use a disposable or false email address, your registration will be rejected.

    After your membership is approved, please take a minute to tell us a little bit about yourself.
    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/forums/introduce-yourself.1088/

    Thanks in advance and have fun!
    RadioDiscussions Administrators

WMTR?

N

NeilParks

Guest
Silly question (because I don't know the answer).

How good is WMTR's signal in NYC? Seems to me that with WCBS-FM's flip, WMTR would naturally gain listeners if it can be heard.

On several recent visits to NJ I found myself enjoying the 50's/early 60's music on 1250 much more than the somewhat newer oldies on 101-FM.
 
no chance

Virtually nobody will listen for music on AM. None of the AM oldies stations around the country have worked and only a few still exist (Chicago & Buffalo).



>
> How good is WMTR's signal in NYC? Seems to me that with
> WCBS-FM's flip, WMTR would naturally gain listeners if it
> can be heard.
>
> On several recent visits to NJ I found myself enjoying the
> 50's/early 60's music on 1250 much more than the somewhat
> newer oldies on 101-FM.
>
 
Re: no chance

> Virtually nobody will listen for music on AM. None of the
> AM oldies stations around the country have worked and only a
> few still exist (Chicago & Buffalo).
>
>
>
> >
> > How good is WMTR's signal in NYC? Seems to me that with
> > WCBS-FM's flip, WMTR would naturally gain listeners if it
> > can be heard.
> >
> > On several recent visits to NJ I found myself enjoying the
>
> > 50's/early 60's music on 1250 much more than the somewhat
> > newer oldies on 101-FM.
> >
>
We remember music on AM and yes, many ex CBS FM listers will listen to WMTR. It has a terrific signal stretching from Rockland/Westchester county in NY to Central Jersey. Once people listen they will do what I did and give them a car radio button, especially if there's no FM alternative. WMTR is a very viable alternative. My uncle and aunt listen to WMTR and XM in central Jersey. They don't play that AM/Fm game, it's the music that counts. Musically it's better than CBS FM has been in years. It has a terrific signal in Rockland county all the way on my drive into Manhatan each morning and now that the personalities are gone from FM, you can forget about listening to any of the FM oldies stations, although I am glad Kool is available too. That's what non New Yorkers fail to understand about this market. You can't program a NY station from Dallas or Seattle or any other city and assume the if it works there it will work here, it won't. NY is one of a kind. Years ago Sabastien Stone came to NY to program WOR-FM for Drake and when he first heard Cousin' Brucie, his question was, how can any one listen to this guy? The reason he asked that question was because he wasn't a New Yorker. Infinity will learn that soon enough. I give this format one or two books. Jammin' failed here, as did most of the other recent fad formats. You want to survive in the city, play NY hits (NYC isn't a vanilla rock/grunge city, like say a Seattle or Boston) and use NY talent. NY ain't Omaha.
 
AM Oldies is working in PA

> Virtually nobody will listen for music on AM. None of the
> AM oldies stations around the country have worked and only a
> few still exist (Chicago & Buffalo).

There's one in Allentown, PA (1470 WKAP) which is doing very well. In that case, Allentown had an FM Oldies station which was consistently #1 or #2 in the ratings. Clear Channel flipped that station to Classic Hits (a lighter variant of Classic Rock) and moved the Oldies format to WKAP, which was previously an Adult Standards station. Now, that FM Classic Hits station is consistently in the Top 3 of the ratings, while the AM Oldies station is consistently in the Top 10. There's also an Adult Standards station which has a relatively weak AM signal and still manages to be in the Top 10 of the Allentown ratings as well.

<P ID="signature">______________
noiboc.jpg
</P>
 
Re: AM Oldies is working in PA

Whoever programs Clear Channel's oldies stations, including WKAP, WNNJ in Sussex, NJ and WRLL, Chicago (the latter two are available online) does a GREAT JOB. The Clear Channel Oldies stations have a similar sound (including the departed WSAI, Cincinnati). Hats off to whoever programs them. If Clear Channel ends up flipping their oldies stations someday, I hope XM or Sirius grab this person, or Clear Channel gives him Internet radio stations to program. Best oldies I've ever heard (light years ahead of any Infinity Oldies stations).


>
> There's one in Allentown, PA (1470 WKAP) which is doing very
> well. In that case, Allentown had an FM Oldies station
> which was consistently #1 or #2 in the ratings. Clear
> Channel flipped that station to Classic Hits (a lighter
> variant of Classic Rock) and moved the Oldies format to
> WKAP, which was previously an Adult Standards station. Now,
> that FM Classic Hits station is consistently in the Top 3 of
> the ratings, while the AM Oldies station is consistently in
> the Top 10. There's also an Adult Standards station which
> has a relatively weak AM signal and still manages to be in
> the Top 10 of the Allentown ratings as well.
>
 
Re: AM Oldies is working in PA

> There's one in Allentown, PA (1470 WKAP) which is doing very
> well. In that case, Allentown had an FM Oldies station
> which was consistently #1 or #2 in the ratings. Clear
> Channel flipped that station to Classic Hits (a lighter
> variant of Classic Rock) and moved the Oldies format to
> WKAP, which was previously an Adult Standards station.

The former FM oldies station in that market, WODE, is owned by Nassau, not Clear Channel. When Nassau dumped oldies, Clear Channel saw an opportunity and brought the oldies format to WKAP.
 
Re: no chance

Theres also one in San Antonio on 860 AM and its doing ok. website: kono101.com


> Virtually nobody will listen for music on AM. None of the
> AM oldies stations around the country have worked and only a
> few still exist (Chicago & Buffalo).
>
>
>
> >
> > How good is WMTR's signal in NYC? Seems to me that with
> > WCBS-FM's flip, WMTR would naturally gain listeners if it
> > can be heard.
> >
> > On several recent visits to NJ I found myself enjoying the
>
> > 50's/early 60's music on 1250 much more than the somewhat
> > newer oldies on 101-FM.
> >
>
 
Re: no chance

KONO 860 simulcasts with KONO 101.1. (Since I am from NYC, I kept WCBS-FM on my display when I listen to KONO).

The nice thing about the 860 simulcast is that I can listen to it here in Austin, during daylight hours. Alas, last August Oldies 103.5 became Bob. There has not been any oldies here since the arrival of Bob.


> Theres also one in San Antonio on 860 AM and its doing ok.
> website: kono101.com
>
>
> > <P ID="signature">______________
[email protected]</P>
 
Re: AM Oldies is working in PA

In the Allentown metropolis, how many stations do not make the top 10?


> There's one in Allentown, PA (1470 WKAP) which is doing very
> well. In that case, Allentown had an FM Oldies station
> which was consistently #1 or #2 in the ratings. Clear
> Channel flipped that station to Classic Hits (a lighter
> variant of Classic Rock) and moved the Oldies format to
> WKAP, which was previously an Adult Standards station. Now,
> that FM Classic Hits station is consistently in the Top 3 of
> the ratings, while the AM Oldies station is consistently in
> the Top 10. There's also an Adult Standards station which
> has a relatively weak AM signal and still manages to be in
> the Top 10 of the Allentown ratings as well.
>
<P ID="signature">______________
[email protected]</P>
 
Status
This thread has been closed due to inactivity. You can create a new thread to discuss this topic.


Back
Top Bottom