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WMVY ties with WSKO in Numbers

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kenwood

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I was just on the R and R website and noticed WMVY's little translater in Newport is showing up for the first time in Providence Numbers.Granted it's the Summer book but still impressive.Correct me if I'm wrong but didnt this guy flip that translator over to WMVY this past spring.
WMVY's little translator is tied with WSKO.

I'm surprised none of you ever picked up on that.I'm assuming the numbers are comming from the translator and not the full station.Can WMVY's parent signal reach anywhere in RI?I forgot the frequency and the Newport ID.
Also, With such a small signal that would tell me a good part of Newport if true was tunning in.
Does anything here make any sense?<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by kenwood on 12/04/05 09:24 PM.</FONT></P>
 
The average Haitian pirate ties with WSKO in numbers
 
I actually touched on this topic when the ratings first came out, but no one picked up on the thread. I wondered if it was possible to allows MVY to show up in the ratings as a direct result of the 96.5 translator, but then realized 92.7 draws a fair signal in Providence and that may be the cause of the upswing in ratings. It's a very good station, not surprised it's becoming popular.

On a related note, I saw an advertisement in the Newport Times that MVY is looking for a salesperson in Newport for 96.5. Dangerous idea, I think, given the owner of the translator up and switched Classical WCRI programming to WMVY earlier this year with no notice to the parent company of WCRI, WCRB. Do you really want to sell programming in Newport on a translator when the station may be changed, literally, with the touch of a button, at the owner's whim?



> I was just on the R and R website and noticed WMVY's little
> translater in Newport is showing up for the first time in
> Providence Numbers.Granted it's the Summer book but still
> impressive.Correct me if I'm wrong but didnt this guy flip
> that translator over to WMVY this past spring.
> WMVY's little translator is tied with WSKO.
>
> I'm surprised none of you ever picked up on that.I'm
> assuming the numbers are comming from the translator and not
> the full station.Can WMVY's parent signal reach anywhere in
> RI?I forgot the frequency and the Newport ID.
> Also, With such a small signal that would tell me a good
> part of Newport if true was tunning in.
> Does anything here make any sense?
>
 
> On a related note, I saw an advertisement in the Newport
> Times that MVY is looking for a salesperson in Newport for
> 96.5. Dangerous idea, I think, given the owner of the
> translator up and switched Classical WCRI programming to
> WMVY earlier this year with no notice to the parent company
> of WCRI, WCRB. Do you really want to sell programming in
> Newport on a translator when the station may be changed,
> literally, with the touch of a button, at the owner's whim?

Are you saying that WMVY doesn't even have any sort of arrangement or agreement with the owner of the translator? It just happens to be the station that the translator owner feels like rebroadcasting, and WMVY is looking for a salesperson in the area on that basis?
 
The rule is...

> Are you saying that WMVY doesn't even have any sort of
> arrangement or agreement with the owner of the translator?

If not then the owner of the translator is in violation of the FCC rules.
Under FCC rules, if you are the owner of the translator but have no affiliation with the station you are rebroadcasting, you must get, in writing, permission to retransmit the station...
 
Isn't WMVY looking for a morning show as well ?? Btw, are their studios out on the island...or on the mainland...or should I be looking that up myself?
 
> Isn't WMVY looking for a morning show as well ?? Btw, are
> their studios out on the island...or on the mainland...or
> should I be looking that up myself?

Island. They were looking for an all-nighter a while ago & wanted someone who lived on the island already or was willing to move there. I go hunting for them on 92.7 whenever I'm in an area where I can pick them up. I was in downtown Bristol yesterday evening & they came in loud & strong.
 
If it wasn't necessary for their staff to live on the island, they wouldn't be posting for jobs. A station like that on the mainland would have applicants beating down the doors, and an pile of demos and resumes overflowing in the PD's office.


> > Isn't WMVY looking for a morning show as well ?? Btw, are
> > their studios out on the island...or on the mainland...or
> > should I be looking that up myself?
>
> Island. They were looking for an all-nighter a while ago &
> wanted someone who lived on the island already or was
> willing to move there. I go hunting for them on 92.7
> whenever I'm in an area where I can pick them up. I was in
> downtown Bristol yesterday evening & they came in loud &
> strong.
>
 
Re: The rule is...

> > Are you saying that WMVY doesn't even have any sort of
> > arrangement or agreement with the owner of the translator?
>
>
> If not then the owner of the translator is in violation of
> the FCC rules.
> Under FCC rules, if you are the owner of the translator but
> have no affiliation with the station you are rebroadcasting,
> you must get, in writing, permission to retransmit the
> station...
>

I'd have to look it up, but I think the rule is that the owner of a translator in the commercial band cannot receive any CONSIDERATION from the owner of the station being rebroadcast. The exception is for technical help and equipment, which is supposed to be a "within reason" sort of thing...only related to keeping the translator on the air and whatnot.

So while the owner of 96.5 could enter an agreement with the owner of WMVY to rebroadcast WMVY for X years, the owner of 96.5 could not receive any goods, services or money for it. But he/she might be willing to enter that agreement just because they're a nice person, or maybe they know the owner of WMVY personally and wanted to do them a favor. Something like that should pass the rules.

Of course, it doesn't have to be in writing to be an "agreement"...some folks still do things on a handshake because they believe in maintaining a good reputation...
 
Re: The rule is...

The owner of 96.5 does not have a personal affiliation with WMVY. He felt it was pointless to re-broadcast WCRI when WCRI basically already reached through Newport. He originally rebroadcast WCRB from Boston, because there was no Classical Station in RI. Earlier this year, he decided to change to WMVY because he likes the station. Thus my surprise at MVY searching for a Newport Area sales-person.

> I'd have to look it up, but I think the rule is that the
> owner of a translator in the commercial band cannot receive
> any CONSIDERATION from the owner of the station being
> rebroadcast. The exception is for technical help and
> equipment, which is supposed to be a "within reason" sort of
> thing...only related to keeping the translator on the air
> and whatnot.
>
> So while the owner of 96.5 could enter an agreement with the
> owner of WMVY to rebroadcast WMVY for X years, the owner of
> 96.5 could not receive any goods, services or money for it.
> But he/she might be willing to enter that agreement just
> because they're a nice person, or maybe they know the owner
> of WMVY personally and wanted to do them a favor. Something
> like that should pass the rules.
>
> Of course, it doesn't have to be in writing to be an
> "agreement"...some folks still do things on a handshake
> because they believe in maintaining a good reputation...
>
 
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