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WNBM 103.9

There are parts of eastern Westchester...say I-684 heading north of White Plains...where 103.9 in Riverhead steps all over WNBM. Sure, there are spots where 103.9 works in NJ...just like there are places where NYC stations can be received way up in the Poconos. The point is, that it is a narrowly focused signal when compared to a full market signal. As Barry said, even the Class B signal from the same stick struggles to get decent coverage. A buyer of this signal would need to be pretty desperate, or have a well defined purpose. Buying it to have a NYC full market signal is not going to cut it.
Absolutely not a full market signal but the point is that it can be suprising how far out it travels. Imo it's current format is best fitted for it's targeted area. It's no competition for WBLS but an alternative to those who can hear it and after the demize of Kiss-Fm it is the only other adult urban station in the market.
I think Cumulus runs it on the cheap.
I'm not sure they have weekday djs.i know they air the Doug Hugley Show. To me it serves it's purpose.
 
You could move it back to Westchester and serve that area. Lot's of people with money to spend there.
There are a few problems with that. Once you cover the cost of engineering and building a new site, you would essentially be a brand new station that now needs to compete with the likes of WHUD for listeners, and more importantly, scarce advertising revenue. Second, the area is already so saturated with signals from NYC, it's hard to see a "suburban focused" 103.9 be impactful.

Who will advertise? A few car dealers maybe?

As I said, it's a tough signal. The fact that it has been sitting there for so long says a lot. EMF could have taken it as a package with WPLJ. They didn't. There are not too many owners walking around with their checkbooks looking to add a subpar signal to their portfolios. As a standalone, it's a terrible investment. Maybe Family Radio picks it up with some of that money they made selling their transmitter site in Queens?
 
Let's not forget that WVIP 93.5 moved its transmitter from Yonkers to the same site as WNBM and WFUV some years ago. I believe their signal is similar to that of WNBM.
They have been focused on the Caribbean community in the Bronx and nearby places such as Mt. Vernon for a long time. Maybe the eventual owner of WNBM could also succeed with an ethnic format. Perhaps it would make sense for Multicultural Broadcasting to buy the station? They already run several ethnic stations in the area. It may also be a logical purchase for a religious broadcaster, such as Family Radio.
BTW, I heard that WNBM runs the syndicated Touch urban A/C service, provided by Westwood One. WVIP briefly carried it in the past. After dropping it, the owner conceded it was not a good idea for them to try competing with WBLS.
What about sister station WFAS 1230 AM? That may be an even tougher sell.
 
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Perhaps the eventual owner of WNBM could also succeed with an ethnic format. It may also be a logical purchase for a religious broadcaster, such as Family Radio.
Ethnic might be the way to go, there are many ethnic groups "underserved" by radio in NYC. The issue becomes a math problem. Can that market generate enough ad dollars to justify the purchase price and leave a profit for the owner? If the price is too high, the answer is no. Another way out for Cumulus might be to just donate the station to a non-profit and take the tax deduction.
 
Ethnic might be the way to go, there are many ethnic groups "underserved" by radio in NYC. The issue becomes a math problem. Can that market generate enough ad dollars to justify the purchase price and leave a profit for the owner? If the price is too high, the answer is no. Another way out for Cumulus might be to just donate the station to a non-profit and take the tax deduction.
Unless you're talking about a very broad format, ethnic will probably look a lot like WVIP. Brokered block programming. I bet WVIP does rather well with its Caribbean focus (especially since it is privately owned without a boatload of corporate debt). Multicultural does several Asian formats on their AMs. Is there room for another player?
 
Is wnbm actively for sale?
What is it's operating cost?
What are it's earnings?

Hard to make logical suggestions without those facts. I still say the current format is the best one for it given the demographics in the area. It's a Bronx radio station. The Bronx has a population larger than most US cities so at the end of the day it reaches a sizeable population
 
Is wnbm actively for sale?
What is it's operating cost?
What are it's earnings?
Large groups don't issue financials on individual stations. Add in the fact that the corporate "office" adds back a percentage of corporate expense to each station, so there is some unseen non-local costs.

Gross sales is estimated at around $1 million prior to the pandemic, but that is very approximate.

Other data would just be a guess. It is probably that it does not show a profit.

Hard to make logical suggestions without those facts. I still say the current format is the best one for it given the demographics in the area. It's a Bronx radio station. The Bronx has a population larger than most US cities so at the end of the day it reaches a sizeable population
There are no "Bronx Metro" ad buys. Any NYC metro buy is going to show this one as a 0.2 to 0.4, somewhere around 30th in the market, making it a "no buy" as well. Remember, because of the size of the market, a huge percentage of buys there are agency originated and are mostly done by the numbers.
 
There are no "Bronx Metro" ad buys. Any NYC metro buy is going to show this one as a 0.2 to 0.4, somewhere around 30th in the market, making it a "no buy" as well. Remember, because of the size of the market, a huge percentage of buys there are agency originated and are mostly done by the numbers.
That's probably another indication that WVIP 93.5, broadcasting from the same location as WNBM with a similar signal, is doing the right thing by carrying brokered Caribbean programming. They apparently do not feel the need to subscribe to the PPM ratings, and do not rely on agency buys. The folks leasing time from them are either running infomercials, or selling ad time to businesses serving the local Caribbean community.
 
Even if it was purchased an urban format is really the only format that would make sense given it's location. Incidentally despite what the contours show 103.9 comes in well in most of Manhattan barring west Chelsea and has a phenomenal signal in Brooklyn, Queens and far into NJ traveling south..obviously points north have no issues
Actually yes.... until the pandemic.
..... in part,
" That sale left Cumulus with just one station in the New York market and it has signaled plans to sell urban AC “Radio 103.9” WNBM, licensed to Bronxville. "

SOURCE:
INSIDERADIO.COM
specifically here:
 
Actually yes.... until the pandemic.
..... in part,
" That sale left Cumulus with just one station in the New York market and it has signaled plans to sell urban AC “Radio 103.9” WNBM, licensed to Bronxville. "

SOURCE:
INSIDERADIO.COM
specifically here:
Tagged your other forum post.
sorry but here is the inspiration for my post
 
That's probably another indication that WVIP 93.5, broadcasting from the same location as WNBM with a similar signal, is doing the right thing by carrying brokered Caribbean programming. They apparently do not feel the need to subscribe to the PPM ratings, and do not rely on agency buys. The folks leasing time from them are either running infomercials, or selling ad time to businesses serving the local Caribbean community.
An remember that WVIP was one a very respected, profitable and well listened to station in its suburban market area. But, as FM "ate" the AMs and younger people never developed a big interest in local affairs, a community AM in the suburbs ceased to be viable.

The owner even wrote and published a number of books about his on-air experiences.

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Those days of "community radio" seem pretty much gone.
 
But, as FM "ate" the AMs and younger people never developed a big interest in local affairs, a community AM in the suburbs ceased to be viable.
Two exceptions are WVIP FM's station WVOX AM in New Rochelle, and WRIV AM in Riverhead NY. WVOX has block programming, with numerous shows focusing on the local area.They received authorization for an FM translator, but I don't know whether it will actually be built.
 
Why would they not build it? It looks like a pretty good signal on paper. The days are fast apporaching that an AM without an FM translaor will be worth only the tower land. And before anyone jumps on me, obviously excluding stations like WCBS AM and WINS AM that still bill significant numbers.
 
Why would they not build it? It looks like a pretty good signal on paper. The days are fast apporaching that an AM without an FM translaor will be worth only the tower land. And before anyone jumps on me, obviously excluding stations like WCBS AM and WINS AM that still bill significant numbers.
The CP was granted 1/21/18 and would have expired on 1/21/21. I can't readily determine whether it was extended under the FCC's waiver program because of COVID, but even if it was, there's not much time left. There were some issues with potential interference from the proposed site that held things up.
 
Two exceptions are WVIP FM's station WVOX AM in New Rochelle, and WRIV AM in Riverhead NY. WVOX has block programming, with numerous shows focusing on the local area.They received authorization for an FM translator, but I don't know whether it will actually be built.
WVOX was on the translator at 106.3 fm and on WVIP hd3 i believe. Don't believe it's carried there anymore
 
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