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WND: Rhodes urges poor to loot

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Liberals rave about what a great talk host Randi Rhodes is. More "proof"; yikes:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46124

"In a broadcast yesterday, Air America radio talk radio host Randi Rhodes repeatedly urged listeners in the hurricane-devastated Gulf Coast to go out and loot, insisting the poor should be allowed to steal goods at will.

"The leftist host, who has sparked controversy in the past for advocating the assassination of President Bush, said hurricane victims should avoid discount centers such as Wal-Mart and focus their looting on higher-end stores in order to get good quality products, according to Ned Rice, a contributor to National Review Online's weblog "The Corner." "


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Randi Rhodes is no great radio talent. But it is a stretch to say that she "advocated the assassination of President Bush." What she did, is air a skit which made a joke of it. She later apologized profusely to the great annoyance of many of her fans.

Any "entertainment" value in joking about looting is similarly lost on me.

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> Randi Rhodes is no great radio talent. But it is a stretch
> to say that she "advocated the assassination of President
> Bush." What she did, is air a skit which made a joke of it.
> She later apologized profusely to the great annoyance of
> many of her fans.
>
> Any "entertainment" value in joking about looting is
> similarly lost on me.
>
> Besides, it's Bush's fault.
>
Anyone who actually heard Randi's show at the time will know that this is a blast at the Bush administration for failing to deliver much needed services and aid to the people of New Orleans. In desperate times people do desperate things. All our fearless president can do is preach about how he (by proxy) will shoot to kill people stealing bread and medicine just to survive. As with all things, there are a few bad apples taking advantage of the situation- that is wrong- but it has to be stated that the fact that the President thinks that is the biggest problem in New Orleans is yet another example of how this administration doesn't give a damn. Had FEMA, the Department of Homeland Security, and The Bush Adminstration done its Job right than I would be happy to say looting must be stopped. Until then- save me your compassionate conservativism, we have bigger problems to deal with.
 
> > Randi Rhodes is no great radio talent. But it is a stretch
>
> > to say that she "advocated the assassination of President
> > Bush." What she did, is air a skit which made a joke of
> it.
> > She later apologized profusely to the great annoyance of
> > many of her fans.
> >
> > Any "entertainment" value in joking about looting is
> > similarly lost on me.
> >
> > Besides, it's Bush's fault.
> >
> Anyone who actually heard Randi's show at the time will know
> that this is a blast at the Bush administration for failing
> to deliver much needed services and aid to the people of New
> Orleans. In desperate times people do desperate things. All
> our fearless president can do is preach about how he (by
> proxy) will shoot to kill people stealing bread and medicine
> just to survive. As with all things, there are a few bad
> apples taking advantage of the situation- that is wrong- but
> it has to be stated that the fact that the President thinks
> that is the biggest problem in New Orleans is yet another
> example of how this administration doesn't give a damn. Had
> FEMA, the Department of Homeland Security, and The Bush
> Adminstration done its Job right than I would be happy to
> say looting must be stopped. Until then- save me your
> compassionate conservativism, we have bigger problems to
> deal with.
>

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT, wrong again. Had the STATE and LOCAL governement done their jobs the looting could have been limited.

And Bush did NOT say anything about shooting people (nice try though). It was the Governor that said that.

Please get your facts straight.

And save me from your ill-informed politcal rants, we have bigger problems to deal with.

Can we move away from the political rants and help these people? What have personally done to help? Anything? I have helped pack 3 semis full of clothes, food, baby supplies and water. We have 5 move coming next week.
 
WorldNetDaily Lies Again

> Liberals rave about what a great talk host Randi Rhodes is.
> More "proof"; yikes:

Your first major mistake is assuming WorldNetDaily is a credible news organization. It is not. Their story is complete nonsense. You notice they provided no link to the actual audio, even though the show is well archived. You should also notice the vast majority of the story isn't even about the looting bit, it was just a sad attempt to re-dredge up past history, distort the facts about that, and push it out the door. If they had heard the audio, you would have known it was humor - no more or less than MSNBC telling a looter at Wal-Mart that red was not his color. That the conservative rag would ask the question as to whether or not she was serious (anyone who heard the bit would have known instantly) shows how ridiculous this report is.

Further, Randi Rhodes did not advocate the assassination of President Bush. One of her producers did a bit parodying Charlton Heston-type elderly people being threatened with having their social security taken away and they brought out the guns. It wasn't funny, she apologized for it.

Matt Drudge then totally fabricated a story saying that the Secret Service was investigating. When reporters actually went to the Secret Service to confirm it, they had no idea what they were talking about and said they weren't interested in Rhodes at all. Anytime the president is threatened, the bare minimum the Secret Service does is send some people to talk to the person doing the threatening. That has never happened in this instance.

WorldNetDaily then writes that Air America denies there is a federal probe. That is like asking Peanut the Cat if there would be rain today while the weather guy is holding Peanut. If they asked the Secret Service, they'd have had their answer. Drudge just made the whole thing up.

The echo chamber has since put forth the "government sources say" BS, which is also a total fabrication. If the Secret Service wasn't interested, who would be. That's never been a problem for WorldNetDaily before - they just make up the "sources."

It's too bad people don't actually spend a few minutes taking a look at the credibility of their news sources. I would think people would be smarter - apparently not.
 
> And save me from your ill-informed politcal rants, we have
> bigger problems to deal with.

Interesting that you didn't say this to the guy who originated the thread. Interesting.
 
> > > Randi Rhodes is no great radio talent. But it is a
> stretch
> >
> > > to say that she "advocated the assassination of
> President
> > > Bush." What she did, is air a skit which made a joke of
> > it.
> > > She later apologized profusely to the great annoyance of
>
> > > many of her fans.
> > >
> > > Any "entertainment" value in joking about looting is
> > > similarly lost on me.
> > >
> > > Besides, it's Bush's fault.
> > >
> > Anyone who actually heard Randi's show at the time will
> know
> > that this is a blast at the Bush administration for
> failing
> > to deliver much needed services and aid to the people of
> New
> > Orleans. In desperate times people do desperate things.
> All
> > our fearless president can do is preach about how he (by
> > proxy) will shoot to kill people stealing bread and
> medicine
> > just to survive. As with all things, there are a few bad
> > apples taking advantage of the situation- that is wrong-
> but
> > it has to be stated that the fact that the President
> thinks
> > that is the biggest problem in New Orleans is yet another
> > example of how this administration doesn't give a damn.
> Had
> > FEMA, the Department of Homeland Security, and The Bush
> > Adminstration done its Job right than I would be happy to
> > say looting must be stopped. Until then- save me your
> > compassionate conservativism, we have bigger problems to
> > deal with.
> >
>
> BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT, wrong again. Had the STATE and
> LOCAL governement done their jobs the looting could have
> been limited.

The Local and state government did do their jobs. I saw them on TV on Sunday Evacuating the city. They declared states of emergency. Both of them, together. The governor sent a letter for help to the president on Aug 28th. Follow the timeline, it is posted in "off the air". This was a incredible failure of the Adminstation and Homeland security. Blaming the almost Third-World state of LA with a 27% poverty rate and a coastal area where 50% of the children live in poverty for not being able to handle a category 4 hurricane and its aftermath is disgusting.

>
> And Bush did NOT say anything about shooting people (nice
> try though). It was the Governor that said that.

Bush said Zero-Tolerance. What does that mean, exactly? I'll tell you what that means- extra judical executions sanctioned by the government. So much for the rule of law.

>
> Please get your facts straight.
>
> And save me from your ill-informed politcal rants, we have
> bigger problems to deal with.
>
> Can we move away from the political rants and help these
> people? What have personally done to help? Anything? I
> have helped pack 3 semis full of clothes, food, baby
> supplies and water. We have 5 move coming next week.
>

Don't you pay taxes? Shouldn't our government be doing this? We are rebuilding Baghdad aren't we? Don't we have adequate guard and reserve? What's the problem? The cost of Rebuilding New Orleans will be a fraction of that to Rebuild Iraq. The government wastes my money abroad then tells me to give at home? The US government has more than enough money and resources to have had this situation under control days ago. They cut taxes didn't they? You are wasting your money, the government doesn't care about these people. Every penny you give will be one less from the US Govermnment and another penny to corporate carpetbaggers (Halliburton is already on its way in to NO).
 
Re: WorldNetDaily Lies Again

All the 'fabrications' are in your post, dampier. She's been at it all week. Don't you listen?


> > Liberals rave about what a great talk host Randi Rhodes
> is.
> > More "proof"; yikes:
>
> Your first major mistake is assuming WorldNetDaily is a
> credible news organization. It is not. Their story is
> complete nonsense. You notice they provided no link to the
> actual audio, even though the show is well archived. You
> should also notice the vast majority of the story isn't even
> about the looting bit, it was just a sad attempt to
> re-dredge up past history, distort the facts about that, and
> push it out the door. If they had heard the audio, you would
> have known it was humor - no more or less than MSNBC telling
> a looter at Wal-Mart that red was not his color. That the
> conservative rag would ask the question as to whether or not
> she was serious (anyone who heard the bit would have known
> instantly) shows how ridiculous this report is.
>
> Further, Randi Rhodes did not advocate the assassination of
> President Bush. One of her producers did a bit parodying
> Charlton Heston-type elderly people being threatened with
> having their social security taken away and they brought out
> the guns. It wasn't funny, she apologized for it.
>
> Matt Drudge then totally fabricated a story saying that the
> Secret Service was investigating. When reporters actually
> went to the Secret Service to confirm it, they had no idea
> what they were talking about and said they weren't
> interested in Rhodes at all. Anytime the president is
> threatened, the bare minimum the Secret Service does is send
> some people to talk to the person doing the threatening.
> That has never happened in this instance.
>
> WorldNetDaily then writes that Air America denies there is a
> federal probe. That is like asking Peanut the Cat if there
> would be rain today while the weather guy is holding Peanut.
> If they asked the Secret Service, they'd have had their
> answer. Drudge just made the whole thing up.
>
> The echo chamber has since put forth the "government sources
> say" BS, which is also a total fabrication. If the Secret
> Service wasn't interested, who would be. That's never been a
> problem for WorldNetDaily before - they just make up the
> "sources."
>
> It's too bad people don't actually spend a few minutes
> taking a look at the credibility of their news sources. I
> would think people would be smarter - apparently not.
>
 
Re: WorldNetDaily Lies Again

> All the 'fabrications' are in your post, dampier. She's been
> at it all week. Don't you listen?

Hmm. On the one hand, conservatives claim that "nobody" listens to AAR. On the other hand, they make claims such as "She's been at it all week." If you dislike her so much, why do you listen "all week?"
 
Re: WorldNetDaily Lies Again

> All the 'fabrications' are in your post, dampier. She's been
> at it all week. Don't you listen?

Really, she's been at "threatening the president" all week. That was the gist of the original article - well over half of it was focused on that.

BTW, the New Orleans AAR affiliate is relaying WWL-AM, so the only people hearing these "terrible" "pro-looting" remarks are the rest of us across the country. When Rush Limbaugh calls people "feminazis" and Abu Gharib torture inconsequential, and then his defenders come and say he's just kidding, that's perfectly fine. If Rhodes makes a joke about the quality of merchandise looters are stealing to survive, that's just horrible and the people writing this actually start wondering whether we should get rid of that pesky first amendment and get her off the air.

Typical.
 
FEMA's disastrous failure

Hey all you amateur radio operators, remember the good old days when FEMA
was there to assist citizens in a disaster? Remember when Amateur radio
operators and numerous other volunteer civilians were the biggest strength
of FEMA?

Take a look at the new improved George Bush FEMA, which is nothing more than
a money conduit for private contractors. Take a look at the disastrous
failure of FEMA in the wake of Hurricane Katrina and you will see a
blueprint for all public services; police, fire, first responders and yes,
even Public Schools.

Now I know a lot of you hams are good old Republicans, but take a close
look. The Bush Crew are not real Republicans, they are Corporatists hiding
in Republican clothing. Their BIG Media Corporations feed us a constant
stream of propaganda about how everything is hunky-dory in the FEMA
department.

Regrettably, the people of New Orleans have proved this to us all too
painfully. I urge you all to think clearly about this and let go of your
delusions about FEMA, the FCC and the Bush Administration.

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FEMA now an agency serving corporations...

> Had
> FEMA, the Department of Homeland Security, and The Bush
> Adminstration done its Job right than I would be happy to
> say looting must be stopped.

Too bad everybody in the country won't get to hear a revealing radio interview with FEMA's Karen Armes that was done by the afternoon team at KFI (Los Angeles). This foolish bureaucrat is in charge of the FEMA district that covers four western states, Hawaii and the Pacific Islands.

She was asked how FEMA would handle a gathering of hungry, dehydrated people in post-earthquake Los Angeles Her response, and I heard it twice, was, "We don't anticipate that."

Pardon, me, folks, but FEMA was supposed to anticipate every conceivable bad thing that can happen to the public and post-earthquake problems ought to be near the top of the list. I fail to comprehend what is so unforeseeable about a below-the-waterline city being flooded by a hurricane. FEMA in its inception was charged with handling all disasters, both foreseeable and unforeseeable.

Friends, this is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the American taxpayer. Under the Patriot Act, FEMA has become nothing more than a cash pipeline from your paycheck to the world's biggest corporations, most of which the Bush family has interest in.
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Re: WorldNetDaily Lies Again

> > All the 'fabrications' are in your post, dampier. She's
> been
> > at it all week. Don't you listen?
>
> Hmm. On the one hand, conservatives claim that "nobody"
> listens to AAR. On the other hand, they make claims such as
> "She's been at it all week." If you dislike her so much,
> why do you listen "all week?"
>

Can Randi get a pass like the right wing gives Ann Coulter who is praised for calling "New Yorkers cowards" and Pat Robertson who is defended for "calling for the assasination of an elected president of a country who has the gall to disagree with us". Of course, she could use the old Fox chestnut: Randi "misspoke".

Its amazing to me that when raccoon posts this stuff, he never replies to anyone's comments...just hit and run...kinda like Drudge, Newsmax, and WND.

So now Scribbler has busted the RW...caught them "listening" to gasp, a liberal.
maybe we outed our first "closet liberals" here on the board....LOL...its ok, you can show your true colors...its ok to disagree with the wrongs and lies of the RW. LOL
 
> BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT, wrong again. Had the STATE and
> LOCAL governement done their jobs the looting could have
> been limited.

If you would listen to more than FOX and read more and check out the video and reports offered during the NOLA debacle...you would see that blame cannot be heaped on Blanco and Nagin....despite their being Democrats (GASP). Again look and learn...and believe your "lying eyes".

I posted a letter from Blanco in the off the air section that I think shows that a lot of effort was being put in to prepare the state but she didnt note that she had to work with Nagin on the counterflow evacuaton which directed all resources to have traffic lanes north and south pointed north,...this was a huge effort which helped speed 1 million people to safety....but im sure you wont see that on FOX.
>
 
A better approach to looting

Individual looters generally fall into two categories:

Those who feel driven to looting in order to obtain food and water for themselves or their families when the stores are closed and they have no access to money or credit.

Those who would grab any opportunity to loot regardless of need. They just feel they have license to do it more openly.

Both are only moderately effective.

A more beneficial approach would be for government to take on the task.

Here's how:

A "temporary" 100% tax on all earned and unearned income. If the bucks come in to anyone they need to be confiscated and given to those most in need in the form of tangibles like housing, food, water, sanitation, health care. Definitely not in the form of money. Would be no point since it would constitute income and be subject to the universal 100% "temporary" tax.






How long, you might ask, is "temporary"?

Until everyone is equal! Equally broke and entirely dependent on government handouts. Or until they move to some other country where the taxes might be a little lower, like Sweden or, maybe, Canada.



I guess we gotta do it that way...people just aren't giving their all voluntarily........

Let's start with taxing the income of high-paid talk show hosts and elected officials then move on down through ordinary people....
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The hell with 'em all

A pox on both their houses. To hell with Rhodes, to hell with Farah, el al, to hell with everybody, black and white, left and right, red state and blue state, who is using this tragedy to promote their petty agendas and draw attention to themselves.
 
Re: FEMA's disastrous failure

> Hey all you amateur radio operators, remember the good old
> days when FEMA
> was there to assist citizens in a disaster? Remember when
> Amateur radio
> operators and numerous other volunteer civilians were the
> biggest strength
> of FEMA?
>
> Take a look at the new improved George Bush FEMA, which is
> nothing more than
> a money conduit for private contractors. Take a look at the
> disastrous
> failure of FEMA in the wake of Hurricane Katrina and you
> will see a
> blueprint for all public services; police, fire, first
> responders and yes,
> even Public Schools.
>
> Now I know a lot of you hams are good old Republicans, but
> take a close
> look. The Bush Crew are not real Republicans, they are
> Corporatists hiding
> in Republican clothing. Their BIG Media Corporations feed us
> a constant
> stream of propaganda about how everything is hunky-dory in
> the FEMA
> department.
>
> Regrettably, the people of New Orleans have proved this to
> us all too
> painfully. I urge you all to think clearly about this and
> let go of your
> delusions about FEMA, the FCC and the Bush Administration.
>
> Very Sincerely, K5ZN, Santa Fe
>

It is hard for a President to help out with emergency federal aid when he is on vacation three days into the disaster in addition to speaking at conservative gatherings (San Diego Tuesday.) I know this a radio related board, but these guys are creeps. Man people are STARVING to death. Randi Rhodes says so understands why they are looting for items like food, water, anything to help them stay dry and cool. She never said go out and steal TVS. I do listen and did much of the week. Jesus, don't you people have better things to do than make up stories of talk show hosts you don't like?

Why don't you shut off this idiot box of yours and go to NOLA and help. I've alreay driven one truck load of water down from Ohio. This board is painfully ignorant to read sometimes. The same 10 people arguing over talk show hosts. Sheesh.
 
> > > > Randi Rhodes is no great radio talent. But it is a
> > stretch
> > >
> > > > to say that she "advocated the assassination of
> > President
> > > > Bush." What she did, is air a skit which made a joke
> of
> > > it.
> > > > She later apologized profusely to the great annoyance
> of
> >
> > > > many of her fans.
> > > >
> > > > Any "entertainment" value in joking about looting is
> > > > similarly lost on me.
> > > >
> > > > Besides, it's Bush's fault.
> > > >
> > > Anyone who actually heard Randi's show at the time will
> > know
> > > that this is a blast at the Bush administration for
> > failing
> > > to deliver much needed services and aid to the people of
>
> > New
> > > Orleans. In desperate times people do desperate things.
> > All
> > > our fearless president can do is preach about how he (by
>
> > > proxy) will shoot to kill people stealing bread and
> > medicine
> > > just to survive. As with all things, there are a few bad
>
> > > apples taking advantage of the situation- that is wrong-
>
> > but
> > > it has to be stated that the fact that the President
> > thinks
> > > that is the biggest problem in New Orleans is yet
> another
> > > example of how this administration doesn't give a damn.
> > Had
> > > FEMA, the Department of Homeland Security, and The Bush
> > > Adminstration done its Job right than I would be happy
> to
> > > say looting must be stopped. Until then- save me your
> > > compassionate conservativism, we have bigger problems to
>
> > > deal with.
> > >
> >
> > BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT, wrong again. Had the STATE and
> > LOCAL governement done their jobs the looting could have
> > been limited.
>
> The Local and state government did do their jobs. I saw them
> on TV on Sunday Evacuating the city. They declared states of
> emergency. Both of them, together. The governor sent a
> letter for help to the president on Aug 28th. Follow the
> timeline, it is posted in "off the air". This was a
> incredible failure of the Adminstation and Homeland
> security. Blaming the almost Third-World state of LA with a
> 27% poverty rate and a coastal area where 50% of the
> children live in poverty for not being able to handle a
> category 4 hurricane and its aftermath is disgusting.
>
> >
> > And Bush did NOT say anything about shooting people (nice
> > try though). It was the Governor that said that.
>
> Bush said Zero-Tolerance. What does that mean, exactly? I'll
> tell you what that means- extra judical executions
> sanctioned by the government. So much for the rule of law.
>
> >
> > Please get your facts straight.
> >
> > And save me from your ill-informed politcal rants, we have
>
> > bigger problems to deal with.
> >
> > Can we move away from the political rants and help these
> > people? What have personally done to help? Anything? I
> > have helped pack 3 semis full of clothes, food, baby
> > supplies and water. We have 5 move coming next week.
> >
>
> Don't you pay taxes? Shouldn't our government be doing this?
> We are rebuilding Baghdad aren't we? Don't we have adequate
> guard and reserve? What's the problem? The cost of
> Rebuilding New Orleans will be a fraction of that to Rebuild
> Iraq. The government wastes my money abroad then tells me to
> give at home? The US government has more than enough money
> and resources to have had this situation under control days
> ago. They cut taxes didn't they? You are wasting your money,
> the government doesn't care about these people. Every penny
> you give will be one less from the US Govermnment and
> another penny to corporate carpetbaggers (Halliburton is
> already on its way in to NO).
>
Your comment: " . . . the government doesn't care about these people . . . ." is a slap to the face of every emergency worker, national guardsman, and military personnel who have risked THEIR lives saving people in LA, AL, and GA. Had YOU watched any of the news coverage or listened to ANY of the radio coverage, you would know your comment is WAAYY out of line. Get a life, and quit putting politics ahead of common sense.
 
> >
> Your comment: " . . . the government doesn't care about
> these people . . . ." is a slap to the face of every
> emergency worker, national guardsman, and military personnel
> who have risked THEIR lives saving people in LA, AL, and GA.
> Had YOU watched any of the news coverage or listened to ANY
> of the radio coverage, you would know your comment is WAAYY
> out of line. Get a life, and quit putting politics ahead of
> common sense.
>

Since when is the government: emergency workers, national guardsmen, and military personnel? There are many wonderful people who work for the government. FEMA and DHS and the Bush administration (the government) failed these people too. I don't blame the soldiers for the mess in Iraq- I blame the government. The emergency responders are doing their jobs great considering the circumstances and the leadership failures. They should be justly compensated for their work and thanked for good measure. All we can offer them in this, the most powerful and richest nation in the world is a thank-you. We talk about these hard working people like they are on a charity mission in a third world nation- that way the government can screw them on pay, benefits and workers rights. If the government talks about you like you are a martyr you can bet they are screwing you over- take a note teachers, policeman, firemen, etc.
 
The topic is way off. Bring it back to radio. In the mean time read this:

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