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EdB
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WNLY no longer is running there Analog transmitter on channel 55
There top hour ID is WNLY DT only.
There top hour ID is WNLY DT only.
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> WNLY no longer is running there Analog transmitter on
> channel 55
> There top hour ID is WNLY DT only.
The station is WLNY. They were paid by Qualcomm (I believe) to take the 55 signal dark ahead of schedule.
Does anyone know if the translator in Morristown NJ is also off the air now?
> channel 55
> There top hour ID is WNLY DT only.
The station is WLNY. They were paid by Qualcomm (I believe) to take the 55 signal dark ahead of schedule.
Does anyone know if the translator in Morristown NJ is also off the air now?
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MikeConway
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Re: WLNY TV 55 Riverhead NY
The calls are for "We Love New York".
The calls are for "We Love New York".
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6tothebronx
Guest
What is their digital channel number? I wonder if they will keep calling themselves "TV 55" or change their slogan to reflect the digital number...
> WNLY no longer is running there Analog transmitter on
> channel 55
> There top hour ID is WNLY DT only.
>
> WNLY no longer is running there Analog transmitter on
> channel 55
> There top hour ID is WNLY DT only.
>
Re: WLNY TV 55 Riverhead NY (1985-2005)
> > WNLY no longer is running there Analog transmitter on
> > channel 55
> > There top hour ID is WNLY DT only.
>
> The station is WLNY. They were paid by Qualcomm (I believe)
> to take the 55 signal dark ahead of schedule.
>
> Does anyone know if the translator in Morristown NJ is also
> off the air now?>
Apparently this was done around December 31st, very quietly. AFAIK, there wasn't even a mention of it in the Long Island edition of <u>Newsday</u>, and little-to-no reaction from residents about the loss of their only locally-based commercial analog television signal. The station claimed in their research that over 92 percent of their viewing area is covered by either cable or satellite, and the FCC noted in their approval that the loss of analog WLNY-TV would be "imperceptible" to most viewers.
Of course, the local owners of the station were paid off by Qualcomm, which bought the channel 55 spectrum nationwide, in order to do their dirty work.
All three of their NTSC LPTV translators, channel 54 Mineola NY, channel 54 Morristown NJ, and channel 27 Stamford CT, are still running. But WLIG/WLNY channel 55 is gone after just over 20 years on the air.<P ID="signature">______________
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> > WNLY no longer is running there Analog transmitter on
> > channel 55
> > There top hour ID is WNLY DT only.
>
> The station is WLNY. They were paid by Qualcomm (I believe)
> to take the 55 signal dark ahead of schedule.
>
> Does anyone know if the translator in Morristown NJ is also
> off the air now?>
Apparently this was done around December 31st, very quietly. AFAIK, there wasn't even a mention of it in the Long Island edition of <u>Newsday</u>, and little-to-no reaction from residents about the loss of their only locally-based commercial analog television signal. The station claimed in their research that over 92 percent of their viewing area is covered by either cable or satellite, and the FCC noted in their approval that the loss of analog WLNY-TV would be "imperceptible" to most viewers.
Of course, the local owners of the station were paid off by Qualcomm, which bought the channel 55 spectrum nationwide, in order to do their dirty work.
All three of their NTSC LPTV translators, channel 54 Mineola NY, channel 54 Morristown NJ, and channel 27 Stamford CT, are still running. But WLIG/WLNY channel 55 is gone after just over 20 years on the air.<P ID="signature">______________
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6tothebronx
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Re: WLNY TV 55 Riverhead NY (1985-2005)
I find it odd that WLNY has translators in those suburban locations but does not have a translator in NYC. I live right across the river from Manhattan (Jersey side) and could not even get the slightest signal on 55.
> All three of their NTSC LPTV translators, channel 54 Mineola
> NY, channel 54 Morristown NJ, and channel 27 Stamford CT,
> are still running. But WLIG/WLNY channel 55 is gone after
> just over 20 years on the air.
>
I find it odd that WLNY has translators in those suburban locations but does not have a translator in NYC. I live right across the river from Manhattan (Jersey side) and could not even get the slightest signal on 55.
> All three of their NTSC LPTV translators, channel 54 Mineola
> NY, channel 54 Morristown NJ, and channel 27 Stamford CT,
> are still running. But WLIG/WLNY channel 55 is gone after
> just over 20 years on the air.
>
Re: WLNY TV 55 Riverhead NY (1985-2005)
> Of course, the local owners of the station were paid off by
> Qualcomm, which bought the channel 55 spectrum nationwide,
> in order to do their dirty work.
>
> All three of their NTSC LPTV translators, channel 54 Mineola
> NY, channel 54 Morristown NJ, and channel 27 Stamford CT,
> are still running. But WLIG/WLNY channel 55 is gone after
> just over 20 years on the air.
>
Is that legal? What are those translators "translating" now that the analog signal is off the air?
> Of course, the local owners of the station were paid off by
> Qualcomm, which bought the channel 55 spectrum nationwide,
> in order to do their dirty work.
>
> All three of their NTSC LPTV translators, channel 54 Mineola
> NY, channel 54 Morristown NJ, and channel 27 Stamford CT,
> are still running. But WLIG/WLNY channel 55 is gone after
> just over 20 years on the air.
>
Is that legal? What are those translators "translating" now that the analog signal is off the air?
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Mark_Ericson
Guest
> What is their digital channel number? I wonder if they will
> keep calling themselves "TV 55" or change their slogan to
> reflect the digital number...
Digital 57, which they can't keep anyway (they've elected 47 or 34 I think).
Besides, the PSIP rules state that they must map as 55-1 as far as I know.
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> keep calling themselves "TV 55" or change their slogan to
> reflect the digital number...
Digital 57, which they can't keep anyway (they've elected 47 or 34 I think).
Besides, the PSIP rules state that they must map as 55-1 as far as I know.
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Point of information [was Re: WLNY TV 55 Riverhead NY (1985-2005)]
> > Is that legal? What are those translators "translating"
> now
> > that the analog signal is off the air?
>
> WLNY-DT, I assume.>
They are, but I haven't yet seen a station ID that includes these translators.
WRNN-TV, that waste of spectrum in upstate Kingston, was the first area station to do the "flash-cut" and go to digital only in the middle of last year. But they continue to rebroadcast WRNN-DT over its LPTV repeater on analog channel 57 in Nyack.
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> > Is that legal? What are those translators "translating"
> now
> > that the analog signal is off the air?
>
> WLNY-DT, I assume.>
They are, but I haven't yet seen a station ID that includes these translators.
WRNN-TV, that waste of spectrum in upstate Kingston, was the first area station to do the "flash-cut" and go to digital only in the middle of last year. But they continue to rebroadcast WRNN-DT over its LPTV repeater on analog channel 57 in Nyack.
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Re: WLNY TV 55 Riverhead NY (1985-2005)
> I find it odd that WLNY has translators in those suburban
> locations but does not have a translator in NYC. I live
> right across the river from Manhattan (Jersey side) and
> could not even get the slightest signal on 55.
>
Well who owns and runs the translators. The local government or WLNY itself?
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> I find it odd that WLNY has translators in those suburban
> locations but does not have a translator in NYC. I live
> right across the river from Manhattan (Jersey side) and
> could not even get the slightest signal on 55.
>
Well who owns and runs the translators. The local government or WLNY itself?
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> > What is their digital channel number? I wonder if they
> will
> > keep calling themselves "TV 55" or change their slogan to
> > reflect the digital number...
>
> Digital 57, which they can't keep anyway (they've elected 47
> or 34 I think).
>
> Besides, the PSIP rules state that they must map as 55-1 as
> far as I know.
I don't think so; I think stations abandoning their analog feed have a choice of re-mapping to their original analog channel, or sticking with the digital channel. For example, WMCN-TV 53 in Atlantic City, NJ, abandoned its weak analog signal, going digital-only as WMCN-DT 44. They don't remap 44.1 to 53.1.
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> will
> > keep calling themselves "TV 55" or change their slogan to
> > reflect the digital number...
>
> Digital 57, which they can't keep anyway (they've elected 47
> or 34 I think).
>
> Besides, the PSIP rules state that they must map as 55-1 as
> far as I know.
I don't think so; I think stations abandoning their analog feed have a choice of re-mapping to their original analog channel, or sticking with the digital channel. For example, WMCN-TV 53 in Atlantic City, NJ, abandoned its weak analog signal, going digital-only as WMCN-DT 44. They don't remap 44.1 to 53.1.
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Re: WLNY TV 55 Riverhead NY (1985-2005)
> I find it odd that WLNY has translators in those suburban
> locations but does not have a translator in NYC. I live
> right across the river from Manhattan (Jersey side) and
> could not even get the slightest signal on 55.
I don't find it odd at all. I can mostly speak about the Morristown station, but Morris County is VERY affluant and after WLNY (I think it might have still been WLIG at the time) launched the relay they got on the local cable system. I'm convinced that's why it's there. Only 2 towns to the east and there was no trace of the its signal from a pretty good roof antenna. The cable headend was to the west and the station currently is lobbing its entire signal straight at the New Providence area.
The weird part was that for some syndicated programming the additional stations ran alternate shows. As of now, the channel 54 station (W54CZ) in Morristown is actually listed as an LPTV. Not sure if it always was.
> I find it odd that WLNY has translators in those suburban
> locations but does not have a translator in NYC. I live
> right across the river from Manhattan (Jersey side) and
> could not even get the slightest signal on 55.
I don't find it odd at all. I can mostly speak about the Morristown station, but Morris County is VERY affluant and after WLNY (I think it might have still been WLIG at the time) launched the relay they got on the local cable system. I'm convinced that's why it's there. Only 2 towns to the east and there was no trace of the its signal from a pretty good roof antenna. The cable headend was to the west and the station currently is lobbing its entire signal straight at the New Providence area.
The weird part was that for some syndicated programming the additional stations ran alternate shows. As of now, the channel 54 station (W54CZ) in Morristown is actually listed as an LPTV. Not sure if it always was.
Re: Point of information [was Re: WLNY TV 55 Riverhead NY (1985-2005)]
> WRNN-TV, that waste of spectrum un upstate Kingston, was the
> first area station to do the "flash-cut" and go to digital
> only in the middle of last year.
Didn't WMCN (then WWAC) in Atlantic City go all digital 1st?
> WRNN-TV, that waste of spectrum un upstate Kingston, was the
> first area station to do the "flash-cut" and go to digital
> only in the middle of last year.
Didn't WMCN (then WWAC) in Atlantic City go all digital 1st?
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MattB
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Re: WLNY TV 55 Riverhead NY (1985-2005)
> > I find it odd that WLNY has translators in those suburban
> > locations but does not have a translator in NYC. I live
> > right across the river from Manhattan (Jersey side) and
> > could not even get the slightest signal on 55.
> >
> Well who owns and runs the translators. The local government
> or WLNY itself?
>
WLIG-LP (54/Mineola), W54CZ (54/Morristown, NJ), and W27CD (27/Stamford, CT) are all owned by WLNY-TV, Inc., the licensee for WLNY-TV and -DT.
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> > I find it odd that WLNY has translators in those suburban
> > locations but does not have a translator in NYC. I live
> > right across the river from Manhattan (Jersey side) and
> > could not even get the slightest signal on 55.
> >
> Well who owns and runs the translators. The local government
> or WLNY itself?
>
WLIG-LP (54/Mineola), W54CZ (54/Morristown, NJ), and W27CD (27/Stamford, CT) are all owned by WLNY-TV, Inc., the licensee for WLNY-TV and -DT.
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Re: Point of information
> > WRNN-TV, that waste of spectrum un upstate Kingston, was
> the
> > first area station to do the "flash-cut" and go to digital
>
> > only in the middle of last year.
>
> Didn't WMCN (then WWAC) in Atlantic City go all digital 1st?>
Last time I checked, Atlantic City is part of the Philadelphia DMA.
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> > WRNN-TV, that waste of spectrum un upstate Kingston, was
> the
> > first area station to do the "flash-cut" and go to digital
>
> > only in the middle of last year.
>
> Didn't WMCN (then WWAC) in Atlantic City go all digital 1st?>
Last time I checked, Atlantic City is part of the Philadelphia DMA.
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DiamondJoe
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Re: WLNY TV 55...
As another poster pointed out, "quietly" is indeed the word to describe this transaction. From a story dated August 5 of last year:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/business/20050805-9999-1b5mediaflo.html
While Channel 55 is free for Qualcomm to use in most of the country, TV stations are still using it in 18 cities, according to FCC documents.
Qualcomm hopes to speed up the conversion to digital in those cities so it can use the channel sooner rather than later.
WACX-TV in Orlando, Fla., and KWDK-TV in Tacoma, Wash., have agreed to switch to digital in confidential deals with Qualcomm.
And, Qualcomm said, WLNY-TV in Riverhead, N.Y., may be next. It has told the FCC it intends to move to digital earlier than required by the government.<P ID="signature">______________
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As another poster pointed out, "quietly" is indeed the word to describe this transaction. From a story dated August 5 of last year:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/business/20050805-9999-1b5mediaflo.html
While Channel 55 is free for Qualcomm to use in most of the country, TV stations are still using it in 18 cities, according to FCC documents.
Qualcomm hopes to speed up the conversion to digital in those cities so it can use the channel sooner rather than later.
WACX-TV in Orlando, Fla., and KWDK-TV in Tacoma, Wash., have agreed to switch to digital in confidential deals with Qualcomm.
And, Qualcomm said, WLNY-TV in Riverhead, N.Y., may be next. It has told the FCC it intends to move to digital earlier than required by the government.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Point of information
> > > WRNN-TV, that waste of spectrum un upstate Kingston, was
>
> > the
> > > first area station to do the "flash-cut" and go to
> digital
> >
> > > only in the middle of last year.
> >
> > Didn't WMCN (then WWAC) in Atlantic City go all digital
> 1st?>
>
> Last time I checked, Atlantic City is part of the
> Philadelphia DMA.
>
I would still consider it part of the "area". It has cable coverage in parts of the NYC DMA.
> > > WRNN-TV, that waste of spectrum un upstate Kingston, was
>
> > the
> > > first area station to do the "flash-cut" and go to
> digital
> >
> > > only in the middle of last year.
> >
> > Didn't WMCN (then WWAC) in Atlantic City go all digital
> 1st?>
>
> Last time I checked, Atlantic City is part of the
> Philadelphia DMA.
>
I would still consider it part of the "area". It has cable coverage in parts of the NYC DMA.
Re: WLNY TV 55 Riverhead NY (1985-2005)
The cable head-ends are more or less all fed via fiber these days.
I think the must-carry rule has something to do with the station covering a certain percentage of the DMA. If that is achieved, the station can push its way onto all of the systems in that DMA...and the signal does not have to arrive off the air.
> I don't find it odd at all. I can mostly speak about the
> Morristown station, but Morris County is VERY affluant and
> after WLNY (I think it might have still been WLIG at the
> time) launched the relay they got on the local cable system.
> I'm convinced that's why it's there. Only 2 towns to the
> east and there was no trace of the its signal from a pretty
> good roof antenna. The cable headend was to the west and
> the station currently is lobbing its entire signal straight
> at the New Providence area.
>
> The weird part was that for some syndicated programming the
> additional stations ran alternate shows. As of now, the
> channel 54 station (W54CZ) in Morristown is actually listed
> as an LPTV. Not sure if it always was.
>
The cable head-ends are more or less all fed via fiber these days.
I think the must-carry rule has something to do with the station covering a certain percentage of the DMA. If that is achieved, the station can push its way onto all of the systems in that DMA...and the signal does not have to arrive off the air.
> I don't find it odd at all. I can mostly speak about the
> Morristown station, but Morris County is VERY affluant and
> after WLNY (I think it might have still been WLIG at the
> time) launched the relay they got on the local cable system.
> I'm convinced that's why it's there. Only 2 towns to the
> east and there was no trace of the its signal from a pretty
> good roof antenna. The cable headend was to the west and
> the station currently is lobbing its entire signal straight
> at the New Providence area.
>
> The weird part was that for some syndicated programming the
> additional stations ran alternate shows. As of now, the
> channel 54 station (W54CZ) in Morristown is actually listed
> as an LPTV. Not sure if it always was.
>
Re: WLNY TV 55 Riverhead NY (1985-2005)
> The cable head-ends are more or less all fed via fiber these
> days.
> I think the must-carry rule has something to do with the
> station covering a certain percentage of the DMA. If that
> is achieved, the station can push its way onto all of the
> systems in that DMA...and the signal does not have to arrive
> off the air.
From the FCC: "Section 614 (a) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, clearly states that a UHF station does not qualify for mandatory carriage if it fails to deliver to the cable system’s principal headend a signal level of –45 dBm at the input terminals of the signal processing equipment."
> The cable head-ends are more or less all fed via fiber these
> days.
> I think the must-carry rule has something to do with the
> station covering a certain percentage of the DMA. If that
> is achieved, the station can push its way onto all of the
> systems in that DMA...and the signal does not have to arrive
> off the air.
From the FCC: "Section 614 (a) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, clearly states that a UHF station does not qualify for mandatory carriage if it fails to deliver to the cable system’s principal headend a signal level of –45 dBm at the input terminals of the signal processing equipment."
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