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DaveWilliams

In checking the FCC data base, WNWK 1260 is no longer listed. Have they indeed gone away or has the FCC scrweed up and taken them off the master list?
 
I just tuned to 1260 and am hearing Mexican music, so I'd assume it's 1260 Newark.
 
WNWK has surrendered its license for cancellation. It's part of an interference reduction arrangement with 1260 Washington.

From http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2012/db0314/DOC-312924A2.txt:

AM STATION APPLICATIONS FOR LICENSE TO COVER LICENSE CANCELLED
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DE BL-19800208AA DWNWK 2646 EKO MEDIA GROUP, INC. LIC. TO COVER (BP-21,258
P 1260 KHZ NEWARK, DE AS MOD) FOR CHANGES.

Request for surrender of
license filed by Licensee
on 03/08/2012.
License cancelled 03/09/2012.
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I realize this is not the real world, but Washington DC has plenty of AM/FM stations, let their 1260 surrender their license. Wilmington has so few stations now, to lose another one in this market, even one I'd not listen to as I don't speak the language is sad.
 
And I hate to say it, but Wimington stations reach far more people then Washington DC stations... Market size is but a debatable number.

It's a terrible shame, even if I do not speak the tongue.

I'd personally like to operate my own radio station, if only the 96.1 allocation was open today.
 
This afternoon, I head the Spanish music and conversation. Then at the top of the hour, the id was the Maryland station, 1330 in Havre De Grace, 1260 in Newark and 1600 in Dover. That was at 3:00pm.According to the id, it was business as usual at all the stations.
 
RadioPhillyFan said:
And I hate to say it, but Wimington stations reach far more people then Washington DC stations... Market size is but a debatable number.
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Ah...er...no.

It is absolutely possible to empirically measure how many people (population count, or "pop count") are within the usable service area of any given signal. Consulting engineers do that all the time. It's a simple matter of overlaying the predicted signal contour over Census Bureau tracts, and commonly-available engineering software can quickly and easily count how many people live within that contour.

There is no Wilmington signal, not even 93.7 or 99.5, with as large a "pop count" as any of the Washington class B signals. Without running the numbers, I'd suspect the pop count for even WMMJ 102.3, the weakest "Washington" FM signal, is higher than WSTW or WJBR.

I'd personally like to operate my own radio station, if only the 96.1 allocation was open today.
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There was never a 96.1 allocation. There was a station that operated briefly on 96.1 in the prehistoric era, before the table of allocations was drafted in 1964, but by the time such a thing as "FM allocations" existed, other signals on and near 96.1 already made it impossible to put 96.1 in Wilmington.

(Also, you can't fit a 94.9 in Philadelphia, but I think we've whacked that poor horse to death by now, too...)
 
I'm speaking in terms of this.

WSTW's reach, if everyone who could recieve the station would listen to it, it would have a higher population reach then DC's. (this includes York, Philadelphia, Wilmington, Baltimore, Vineland, Dover, Lancaster, and all of that).

I've only seen DC once and it seemed very small and compact. Much like Harrisburg. Compact with some minor outlying towns.

If you're speaking in the same terms, it's best to disagree. I remember reading 91.7 from the Brandywine Schools which only reaches Wilmington can potentially reach 1,500,000 individuals across DE and NJ. This is only DE/NJ, it dies before you even leave DE.
 
RadioPhillyFan said:
WSTW's reach, if everyone who could recieve the station would listen to it, it would have a higher population reach then DC's. (this includes York, Philadelphia, Wilmington, Baltimore, Vineland, Dover, Lancaster, and all of that).

I've only seen DC once and it seemed very small and compact. Much like Harrisburg. Compact with some minor outlying towns.
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The DC market is mostly sprawling suburbs- it is the opposite of small and compact. The jurisidiction with the largest population in the DC market is Fairfax County, VA, not DC itself.
 
We need to drop this, completely irrelevent topic.

I strongly disagree with Arbitron, and my minds set on that.
 
RadioPhillyFan said:
We need to drop this, completely irrelevent topic.

I strongly disagree with Arbitron, and my minds set on that.
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It's one thing to disagree with the market definitions, but you can't "disagree" with facts. Everytime you bring up DC, you're getting the facts about DC's market wrong (how it's laid out, how many people are in it), and that's what people are correcting you on.
 
I already checked the populations, they're calling some of MD's counties DC Market, they should be Baltimore.

Such as they took away Trenton, Reading and Wilmington from Philadelphia's market.

Am I correct?
 
RadioPhillyFan said:
I already checked the populations, they're calling some of MD's counties DC Market, they should be Baltimore.

Such as they took away Trenton, Reading and Wilmington from Philadelphia's market.

Am I correct?
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No. The MD counties in DC's market are both closer distance-wise and economically to DC than Baltimore. Similar to how the NJ counties in the Philly market are given to Philly rather than Trenton or Atlantic City.

Neither Trenton nor Reading is in the Philly MSA. The ONLY difference between the Philly MSA and Arb. market is the exclusion of New Castle/Cecil/Salem (the mention of which brings us almost on-topic for this particular board).
 
S said:
RadioPhillyFan said:
I already checked the populations, they're calling some of MD's counties DC Market, they should be Baltimore.

Such as they took away Trenton, Reading and Wilmington from Philadelphia's market.

Am I correct?
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No. The MD counties in DC's market are both closer distance-wise and economically to DC than Baltimore. Similar to how the NJ counties in the Philly market are given to Philly rather than Trenton or Atlantic City.

Neither Trenton nor Reading is in the Philly MSA. The ONLY difference between the Philly MSA and Arb. market is the exclusion of New Castle/Cecil/Salem (the mention of which brings us almost on-topic for this particular board).
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Oh, well. It's still something that should be included.

I don't have much to say on this, other then I'm finished bringing it up randomly.
Sorry about that.
 
Mow heres a case where the FCC should be paying a visit to Newark, Delaware to see just whats going on with 1260. If the license was indeed cancelled and the call letters deleted, they just shouldn't be on the air.
 
Maybe it becomees offical at the end of March? But I thought it was to take place before 1260 in DC increased power.
 
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