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First of all I have great respect for Tom Calderone and I think the music mix on The Bridge is wonderfully curated. I have long said that HD subchannels will never succeed unless there is a reason for people to listen so I would love to see this project succeed. I'm just being realistic with my observations and predictions.

AAA is a niche format that can be expected to draw a somewhat small audience to begin with. Putting it out on just an HD2 subchannel and stream without a main FM signal reduces that potential audience even further. I do not think The Bridge can succeed on its own merit in this form. However I doubt Calderone thinks small or is oblivious to these realities so maybe there's something more at play here.

The first possibility is that, as Rusty suggested earlier, it's a trial balloon that could end up getting the format moved to FM in Buffalo, displacing an existing BTPM station, depending on the response.

Another possibility is that packaging a AAA format along with the rest of BTPM's offerings could simply be a marketing angle intended to boost the perceived value of the organization and attract more/higher donations. This is a common tactic by organizations such as auto clubs, health clubs and various other service providers where they bundle a bunch of features to help sell subscriptions, understanding most people won't use them, but the net result is more sales.

Finally, Calderone may be trying to build a AAA format that can be nationalized and syndicated to other NPR affiliates, especially in markets where there is not currently a public radio AAA outlet. It's one thing to say an HD2 channel can't attract a sustainable audience going it alone Buffalo, but what if that HD channel could be heard in markets across the country, with perhaps a few main FMs thrown in? That could be a win-win for both NPR and Xperi's HD Radio marketing.
 
This discussion has taken an interesting turn with well-presented opinions. There is the question of local viability, and yes, what happens "outside the wall" if and when listeners are presented with and seek other options. Locally, it's reasonable to presume that competing broadcasters will take note of this format's performance (and success) on an HD channel. IF the format puts up significant numbers, it would not surprise this poster if an FM main channel adopts the same format. The format bombed on weak signal 107.7 ... but what of say, local B's like 96.1 or 92.9? Purely speculative at this point, and arguably a long shot. Then again, there's always the option, if this format is successful on an HD channel, of putting it on BTPM's 94.5 or 88.7 ... slim chance, admittedly, given the loyalty of listeners to Classical 94.5 and NPR 88.7 ... but it's radio ... the inexplicable often becomes typical.
The Alternative format that was on 107.7 is not the same as what the Bridge is attempting. Alternative Buffalo failed because it was a feeble "Pop Top 40 Alternative" with no identity. The Lake was an Album Rock format that played a lot of the same artists the Bridge is playing. You know which format had better success. AAA is not a cookie cutter format. They differ by market.

The Bridge is in early development. I doubt that it will ever displace the current content on WNED or WBFO. It certainly would have a better chance on an FM signal. None of the Corporate groups will attempt AAA. They prefer squalid formats like WBUF...
 
Indeed, the competition is tremendous, especially when listeners can create their own playlists on Spotify or Apple Music.

This will be different from creating your own playlist. Personal playlist is comparable to one's personal music collection. The Bridge is intended to be a hosted and curated radio station, just using a different transmission platform.
 
Finally, Calderone may be trying to build a AAA format that can be nationalized and syndicated to other NPR affiliates, especially in markets where there is not currently a public radio AAA outlet.

Maybe. If so he'll find quite a few NPR stations are doing the same thing. The pioneer in this is WXPN in Philadelphia. Another legend is KEXP in Seattle. But there are many more. Here's a relatively new "experimental" station in Nashville:

 
This will be different from creating your own playlist. Personal playlist is comparable to one's personal music collection. The Bridge is intended to be a hosted and curated radio station, just using a different transmission platform.
I don't know about Apple Music but Spotify offers AI-created, personalized Daily Mix playlists based on your favorites, play history, etc. Lots of good new music in there for me. Spotify also continues to play music based on your taste, even after whatever you selected in your queue has finished playing. It can be pretty addictive, and presumably this tech will just keep getting better.

Now I'm still a fan of human curated radio, as long as whoever is doing it is on my musical wavelength and there's a good host to go with it. The Bridge gets the first part right but at the moment it's just a playlist without meaningful hosts. In that respect, I'd pay the ten bucks to Spotify before donating to this station to hear someone else's playlist
 
Adult Hits is a format that's making inroads in a number of markets, including Nashville. It seems to be more focused on a sound than an era. Some stations rely on a more personality-oriented approach, some are more of a jukebox. I've heard a handful of "Bobs" around the country. They are not the same as "Jack."

One thing is for sure, WNYPB is not driven by ratings. They recently cut back on their Blues show. It's now one night only - Saturdays. It was a lot more popular when it was on Saturday and Sunday during the day.
 
Adult Hits is a format that's making inroads in a number of markets, including Nashville.

Huh? Jack has been #1 in Nashville for a long time. Nashville may even be Jack's most consistently successful market.

That's not the point, or the target WNXP is going after. There's a heritage alternative station there called Lightning 100. Take a look at the music played on WNXP and tell me if you recognize any of the bands or songs.
 
Most of the Adult Hits stations I heard while traveling weren't Jacks. Nashville was surprising because it was in the "home of country music" and it's playlist was certainly different than what Jack in Buffalo was playing.
 
One thing is for sure, WNYPB is not driven by ratings. They recently cut back on their Blues show. It's now one night only - Saturdays. It was a lot more popular when it was on Saturday and Sunday during the day.
The station is member supported. Do you know that the ratings were higher before? Did members withhold their contributions in protest?

As for ratings, the same thing can be said about Audacy and Town Square. They have failing formats like WBUF and The Wolf that they let continue to twist in the wind...
 
Most of the Adult Hits stations I heard while traveling weren't Jacks. Nashville was surprising because it was in the "home of country music" and it's playlist was certainly different than what Jack in Buffalo was playing.

That's part of the design of Jack, that the music can be programmed locally. Not one-size-fits all.

Adult hits and AAA are very different formats in many ways.
 
Maybe. If so he'll find quite a few NPR stations are doing the same thing. The pioneer in this is WXPN in Philadelphia. Another legend is KEXP in Seattle. But there are many more. Here's a relatively new "experimental" station in Nashville:


Well yes. Nashville is a city filled with musicians and people working in the music industry and related fields. It's probably the most musically open-minded place in the nation so of course they are going to have a radio station like that. It's probably getting generous support from an audience that loves the discovery and depth of new music being played and believes in what the station stands for. Most of America isn't like Nashville, though, and the kind of AAA Calderone is offering sounds a lot more accessible.
 
The station is member supported. Do you know that the ratings were higher before? Did members withhold their contributions in protest?

As for ratings, the same thing can be said about Audacy and Town Square. They have failing formats like WBUF and The Wolf that they let continue to twist in the wind...
Indeed, the ratings for Saturday afternoon Blues with Jim Santella while WBFO was under UB ownership were astronomical. I know. I saw the numbers. Santella’s show was top five 12+ in Buffalo on Saturday afternoons, even beating 97 Rock. Between Car Talk and the Blues, WBFO had huge Saturday numbers, both in ratings and fundraising. WNYPBA had its own vision for WBFO upon acquiring it in 2012, which included talk programming on weekend afternoons. Blues were relegated to the evening hours. Fundraising numbers for weekend evening Blues never approached what the afternoon shows raised under UB ownership. Still, WNYPBA sold out live Blues performances held in its downtown studios. Don Boswell was responsible for making sure the Blues presence on WBFO continued. Since I’m no longer involved, I can’t comment on current Blues ratings or why the decision was made to eliminate Sunday evening Blues.
 
Indeed, the ratings for Saturday afternoon Blues with Jim Santella while WBFO was under UB ownership were astronomical. I know. I saw the numbers. Santella’s show was top five 12+ in Buffalo on Saturday afternoons, even beating 97 Rock. Between Car Talk and the Blues, WBFO had huge Saturday numbers, both in ratings and fundraising. WNYPBA had its own vision for WBFO upon acquiring it in 2012, which included talk programming on weekend afternoons. Blues were relegated to the evening hours. Fundraising numbers for weekend evening Blues never approached what the afternoon shows raised under UB ownership. Still, WNYPBA sold out live Blues performances held in its downtown studios. Don Boswell was responsible for making sure the Blues presence on WBFO continued. Since I’m no longer involved, I can’t comment on current Blues ratings or why the decision was made to eliminate Sunday evening Blues.
The ratings you mentioned happened over 10 years ago and under the previous ownership. The new owner wanted to move the NPR content from the AM signal to FM. That was a factor in programming changes. Their vision was for NPR getting priority.

Blues is "niche" programming and fans are passionate about it. Radio often makes decisions that are unpopular with listeners. Formats get flipped and the ratings get even worse...
 
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The point is that WNYPB has a history of ignoring ratings - and even fund-raising - when it's making programming decisions. There are times when I'm not sure who they're serving, but it sure ain't their listeners.
 
The point is that WNYPB has a history of ignoring ratings - and even fund-raising - when it's making programming decisions. There are times when I'm not sure who they're serving, but it sure ain't their listeners.
Their business model isn't driven by ratings. It's member supported. Some public TV stations still air Lawrence Welk reruns. That only happens because enough people contribute and apparently want to see it. Public stations monitor fund raising drives and I'm sure they react to the results. Public TV and Radio is more diverse to provide different content. For people who just want Led Zeppelin and "Free Bird", they know where to get that...
 
Blues is "niche" programming and fans are passionate about it. Radio often makes decisions that are unpopular with listeners. Formats get flipped and the ratings get even worse...
Happens in every field. The Edsel, the Pinto and the Corvair. The Yugo. And so on.

Even the marketing genius collection at P&G fails on nearly half of their new products, despite the best research and test marketing anywhere.

Some radio stations just don't make it. That's normal in any business.
 
Their business model isn't driven by ratings. It's member supported. Some public TV stations still air Lawrence Welk reruns. That only happens because enough people contribute and apparently want to see it. Public stations monitor fund raising drives and I'm sure they react to the results. Public TV and Radio is more diverse to provide different content. For people who just want Led Zeppelin and "Free Bird", they know where to get that...

And up hereon our "NPR" station , they want a little bit of national news.. a little bit more statewide news, a good heaping serving of local event happenins and Judas Priest mixed with Garth Brooks ;)

And we give them exactly that
 
Most of the Adult Hits stations I heard while traveling weren't Jacks. Nashville was surprising because it was in the "home of country music" and it's playlist was certainly different than what Jack in Buffalo was playing.
Nashville is the home of the guy responsible for bringing "Jack" to the states. He's Garry Wall, the Big Kahuna at Sparknet. Maybe that has something to do with the sound of the Music City's version of "Jack".
 
Well yes. Nashville is a city filled with musicians and people working in the music industry and related fields. It's probably the most musically open-minded place in the nation so of course they are going to have a radio station like that.

OK, how about Jacksonville FL? A new AAA station just launched there today, and it's a similar situation to The Bridge:


Based on what I've seen at some of these non-coms, the target isn't necessarily younger people, but older people who are looking for new music that isn't pop. At least that's the target at WXPN.
 
Based on what I've seen at some of these non-coms, the target isn't necessarily younger people, but older people who are looking for new music that isn't pop.
The vocal gymnastic yodeling of CHR divas, or the howling of pin-cushion-shredders doesn't cut it with guys (and women) who grew up on Steely Dan, Paul Simon, James Taylor, the Beatles and Joni Mitchell, but don't want to live their lives entirely in the past.
 
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