How does this work. How is it they are on both TV and Radio? I don't really understand the LPTV thing. Can somebody explain, and is it possible to make in other city's?
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In the United States and Canada, all channel 6 VHF stations broadcast an aural signal on 87.76 FM...that is what you hear when you tune to 87.7 FM in the NYC area. Before this station signed on, it was often possible to hear the audio signal of Philadelphia's ABC affiliate, which is also on Channel 6, on 87.7 FM, quite often in the NYC region.
As for LPTV's, they're signing on all over the country...and they're just that, low-power TV stations. Unfortunately, most of the LPTV's in NYC belong to one owner and show much of the same programming (infomercials, paid programming, and a couple of locally produced shows plus syndicated ethnic fare), but LPTV's can be used for community-oriented programming too.
LPTV's in NYC: 6, 17 (Korean), 26, 32 (HSN), 34 (rebroadcasts Pax TV, I think it's actually from NJ), 35, 36 (somewhere in NJ), 39 (Azteca America affiliate), 49, 60 (this one's been on for many many years, rebroadcasting America's Store).
> How does this work. How is it they are on both TV and
> Radio? I don't really understand the LPTV thing. Can
> somebody explain, and is it possible to make in other
> city's?
>
As for LPTV's, they're signing on all over the country...and they're just that, low-power TV stations. Unfortunately, most of the LPTV's in NYC belong to one owner and show much of the same programming (infomercials, paid programming, and a couple of locally produced shows plus syndicated ethnic fare), but LPTV's can be used for community-oriented programming too.
LPTV's in NYC: 6, 17 (Korean), 26, 32 (HSN), 34 (rebroadcasts Pax TV, I think it's actually from NJ), 35, 36 (somewhere in NJ), 39 (Azteca America affiliate), 49, 60 (this one's been on for many many years, rebroadcasting America's Store).
> How does this work. How is it they are on both TV and
> Radio? I don't really understand the LPTV thing. Can
> somebody explain, and is it possible to make in other
> city's?
>
LPTV "Radio" Stations
> In the United States and Canada, all channel 6 VHF stations
> broadcast an aural signal on 87.76 FM...that is what you
> hear when you tune to 87.7 FM in the NYC area. Before this
> station signed on, it was often possible to hear the audio
> signal of Philadelphia's ABC affiliate, which is also on
> Channel 6, on 87.7 FM, quite often in the NYC region.
This effort isn't the first time an LPTV audio signal on Ch. 6 has been used for a "radio station" on 87.7 FM.
The owner of Anchorage, Alaska's KYES/5 put on an LPTV signal on 6 in that market. The calls are "KZND-LP", but the station has been operated entirely as an alternative rock radio station called "The End". The FCC took notice of it, and required them to send out a video signal, which I believe first consisted of a static camera pointed at the radio studio, and may have added community announcements later.
As far as I know, the station's still operating.
There's another example of this, but I forget where it is...
It's interesting that this operation is apparently LEASING the audio signal to a radio programmer (Russian language, I believe). KZND-LP operates the "radio station" itself.
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> In the United States and Canada, all channel 6 VHF stations
> broadcast an aural signal on 87.76 FM...that is what you
> hear when you tune to 87.7 FM in the NYC area. Before this
> station signed on, it was often possible to hear the audio
> signal of Philadelphia's ABC affiliate, which is also on
> Channel 6, on 87.7 FM, quite often in the NYC region.
This effort isn't the first time an LPTV audio signal on Ch. 6 has been used for a "radio station" on 87.7 FM.
The owner of Anchorage, Alaska's KYES/5 put on an LPTV signal on 6 in that market. The calls are "KZND-LP", but the station has been operated entirely as an alternative rock radio station called "The End". The FCC took notice of it, and required them to send out a video signal, which I believe first consisted of a static camera pointed at the radio studio, and may have added community announcements later.
As far as I know, the station's still operating.
There's another example of this, but I forget where it is...
It's interesting that this operation is apparently LEASING the audio signal to a radio programmer (Russian language, I believe). KZND-LP operates the "radio station" itself.
-OA
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wxctintern
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Re: LPTV "Radio" Stations
And from what I hear it's the same Russian programming thats on 620 AM.<P ID="signature">______________
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And from what I hear it's the same Russian programming thats on 620 AM.<P ID="signature">______________
~Jay Clark~
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toby
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So are they violating FCC regs? If so how to report them?
So are they violating FCC regs?
If so how to report them?<P ID="signature">______________
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So are they violating FCC regs?
If so how to report them?<P ID="signature">______________
WCBS = We're Crazy Buffoons and Schmucks
<a href=http://chuck.spotteddogs.org/tv/>Spotted Dog TV Talk - for all your non-news TV Talk</a></P>
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toby
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Re: So are they violating FCC regs? If so how to report them?
> > So are they violating FCC regs?
>
> By broadcasting a signal where their license says they can?
>
> Can I have what you're smoking?
No, I meant by leasing the audio carrier.
From the other examples it souned like a violation.<P ID="signature">______________
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> > So are they violating FCC regs?
>
> By broadcasting a signal where their license says they can?
>
> Can I have what you're smoking?
No, I meant by leasing the audio carrier.
From the other examples it souned like a violation.<P ID="signature">______________
WCBS = We're Crazy Buffoons and Schmucks
<a href=http://chuck.spotteddogs.org/tv/>Spotted Dog TV Talk - for all your non-news TV Talk</a></P>
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toby
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Re: So are they violating FCC regs? If so how to report them?
> > TV stations lease airtime every week (if not every day.)
> > All those infomercials are leased time.
> >
> I think he meant leasing the audio and video carriers
> separately to two different entities.
That is exactly what I meant.
It seems odd that sound and vision don't match.<P ID="signature">______________
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> > TV stations lease airtime every week (if not every day.)
> > All those infomercials are leased time.
> >
> I think he meant leasing the audio and video carriers
> separately to two different entities.
That is exactly what I meant.
It seems odd that sound and vision don't match.<P ID="signature">______________
WCBS = We're Crazy Buffoons and Schmucks
<a href=http://chuck.spotteddogs.org/tv/>Spotted Dog TV Talk - for all your non-news TV Talk</a></P>
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wxctintern
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Re: So are they violating FCC regs? If so how to report them?
I agree it is weird. It's not like it's the Second Audio Program or SAP Channel. Here in Hartford Spanish Radio Station SUPERMAX 990 is on the SAP Channel of WFSB Channel 3, the Merideth owned CBS station. And when the Navigators AA Baseball team is playing WHPX Channel 26 carries WICH 1310 on their SAP Channel. And for a while Entravision's Univision affiliate WUVN Channel 18 was running pirate station 105-3 PRAYZE-FM on its SAP Channel. <P ID="signature">______________
~Jay Clark~
</P>
I agree it is weird. It's not like it's the Second Audio Program or SAP Channel. Here in Hartford Spanish Radio Station SUPERMAX 990 is on the SAP Channel of WFSB Channel 3, the Merideth owned CBS station. And when the Navigators AA Baseball team is playing WHPX Channel 26 carries WICH 1310 on their SAP Channel. And for a while Entravision's Univision affiliate WUVN Channel 18 was running pirate station 105-3 PRAYZE-FM on its SAP Channel. <P ID="signature">______________
~Jay Clark~
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edbeckdotcom
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Re: So are they violating FCC regs? If so how to report them?
So they lease time, more than half of ALL the broadcasts in America
lease out at least 2 hours of time per week. Being down in the Japanese
portion of the FM dial
- makes no difference. Utilizing a 'blank'
channel 6 freq sounds like a good idea, and surely serves a population dramatically underserved in Market 1.
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So they lease time, more than half of ALL the broadcasts in America
lease out at least 2 hours of time per week. Being down in the Japanese
portion of the FM dial
- makes no difference. Utilizing a 'blank'channel 6 freq sounds like a good idea, and surely serves a population dramatically underserved in Market 1.
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edbeckdotcom
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Re: So are they violating FCC regs? If so how to report them?
> I wanted to Add that the video carrier would be no different that having
multiple signals on sideband or, in the case of digital radio, FM signals.
Stations are already planning to program different formats on their FM and Digital counterparts. Video and Audio, no different.
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> I wanted to Add that the video carrier would be no different that having
multiple signals on sideband or, in the case of digital radio, FM signals.
Stations are already planning to program different formats on their FM and Digital counterparts. Video and Audio, no different.
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