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WOR Adds "NBC Nightly News"

DToTheJ

DToTheJ

I understand WOR is going to start simulcasting "NBC Nightly News" weeknights at 6:30 PM - which is right in the middle of Michael Savage's first hour. Can they possibly air Savage at 6, NBC News at 6:30, and Savage in progress at 7? I'd have to think WOR would start doing a nightly local news program with the venerable Dave Spencer at 6. I can't see it going any other way. For WOR, current NBC News Radio affiliate, to air the audio feed of "NBC Nightly News" in the middle of Michael Savage, would be a more befuddling decision than dropping Dennis Miller in favor of Lou Dobbs! (Though they did make up for that by dropping Glenn Beck...)

Another possibility could be David Paterson doing a 4-6:30 PM show.
 
That's a bad move for WOR for simulcasting a TV news program for NBC. You might listen to the second half of Michael Savage and the "Savage Nation" on other stations including WKIP in Poughkeepsie, WKIP-FM in Ellenville and WGY in Albany on both AM 810 and on FM at 103.1.

Remember WNEW at time when it was a talk station used to carried a simulcast of David Letterman where he did "The Late Show" for a short time until "Blink" came along. That was around 2002 where WNEW at 102.7 used to simulcast David Letterman.
 
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I hope Savage goes to another station, not that he has much choice in NYC. I'd much rather hear him than TV news on the radio. I can get plenty of TV news on the TV. I can get tons of it on Sirius too.

How can you interrupt a radio show and expect anyone to tune in or stay tuned in??
 
I think it's a stupid move. Savage must be nervous about WOR. I stopped listening to him awhile ago, but I know he's had Paterson on his show. He probably wouldn't normally do that.
 
They already cut his last hour and with this news I suspect Savage will be out at WOR or moved to a later time. With Beck and Malzberg gone also I predict the next few PPMs are going to show a train wreck. The entire station seems be imploding. Is there new management at WOR that is left leaning?

I may not always agree with them but they are very entertaining so it would be nice to see Savage, Beck and Malzberg show up on a station with a good signal. I would like to see Savage replace Levin on WABC.
 
TTalkradio1 said:
mikerock said:
I would like to see Savage replace Levin on WABC.
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That's not going to happen.
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I know but it would be nice. Levin would not be where he is now if it were not for WABC's power house of a signal. Anyone that listens to his show for any length of time knows he is a fraud and a shill for the establishment Republicans. The man writes books on the Constitution and spouts adhering to the Constitution on his show while at the same time advocates policies that thwart the Constitutional. Even a casual listener can see right through that after awhile.

The other guys may also be hypocritical to what they preach but not as insulting to the audience as Levin. Put anyone else in that slot and I would be happy since WOR is becoming a dead station to me.
 
mikerock said:
TTalkradio1 said:
mikerock said:
I would like to see Savage replace Levin on WABC.
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That's not going to happen.
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I know but it would be nice. Levin would not be where he is now if it were not for WABC's power house of a signal. Anyone that listens to his show for any length of time knows he is a fraud and a shill for the establishment Republicans. The man writes books on the Constitution and spouts adhering to the Constitution on his show while at the same time advocates policies that thwart the Constitutional. Even a casual listener can see right through that after awhile.

The other guys may also be hypocritical to what they preach but not as insulting to the audience as Levin. Put anyone else in that slot and I would be happy since WOR is becoming a dead station to me.
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I disagree. I stopped listening to Savage, and now I listen to Levin.
 
It's still one of the stupidest programming decisions I've ever heard. It's not the same as 880 airing the CBS nightly snooze. The news/traffic/weather format is easily "chopped up" by the other newscast, and can return to it with no gaps in continuity.

On the other side, you have a talk show that flows from segment to segment. So Savage says at 6:29, "...Gotta break, we'll continue this [insert topic] next". Then then next segment is news from TV, then a return to Savage at 6:45 and he's talking about something completely different. If I was interested in hearing what he had to say next, I'm frustrated and out of there. A few more times and I decide not to return to WOR to listen anymore because the show is being hacked up.

Imagine a sitcom where the whole middle segment is news instead of the show, and then you return for the last 10 minutes not knowing what happened in the middle.

And this thread should degenerate into "my politics vs. your politics". I don't care what side of the fence you are on, this is purely a programming discussion here. Love him or hate him, it's insanely stupid to throw the whole continuity of the show out for a simulcast of something fewer and fewer people are watching on TV anyway.
 
And this thread should degenerate into "my politics vs. your politics".
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That's supposed to read: And this thread shouldn't degenerate into "my politics vs. your politics".
 
I do not see anyone doing that here or are you saying this is not about politics? It is awfully odd putting a left wing guy like Brian Williams right smack in the middle of a right wing show and then say it is not political? At the same time we just had a management change with 2 right wing talk show hosts thrown off the station and we are not to speculate that it might be politically motivated?

If your comment was directed about my comment on Levin, I do not care what anyone's politics are here but I do expect if you are a talk show host to be true to their beliefs and not some phony shill. Nothing worse than listening to a phony whether on the right or left which was my point about Levin being the worst offender. I can listen to left wing hosts and spot inconsistencies also.
 
As far as news content goes, unless it is a very heavy news day, the first twelve minutes of all three network nightly newscasts usually provide all the truly important and "hard news" stories of the day.

The first break, at about 6:42-pm, also is past the halfway point in news content for the 22-content-minute program. So, running the unbroken first 12-minutes of the highest rated daily TV national newscast is bringing something worthwhile to WOR listeners who, presumably, can't watch it on TV.

As far as politics being involved in this decision, that is really doubtful. Like almost everything else it likely has to do with money.

As news anchor, Brian Williams is acting as a professional journalist, and appears to make an effort to keep his personal politics out of his reporting. That is NOT the same as Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Levin or any other biased talk show host, right or left.

Mike Wallace acted as a journalist on 60-Minutes, and was said by some to be a "lefty" and after years and years, people were surprised to find out that he had always been a registered Republican. And his son is now a journalist for Fox. But professionally, as journalists they do try to keep close to the facts, and stay unbiased and somewhere in the middle. If they don't, and instead act as cheerleaders for one side or the other, they lose their journalist creditability.

I enjoy listening to Savage, but something tells me that his days at WOR are numbered. His episodes of biased anger scare off too many potential advertisers, and again, in the end, its really all about money.
 
I do not see anyone doing that here or are you saying this is not about politics? It is awfully odd putting a left wing guy like Brian Williams right smack in the middle of a right wing show and then say it is not political? At the same time we just had a management change with 2 right wing talk show hosts thrown off the station and we are not to speculate that it might be politically motivated?

If your comment was directed about my comment on Levin, I do not care what anyone's politics are here but I do expect if you are a talk show host to be true to their beliefs and not some phony shill. Nothing worse than listening to a phony whether on the right or left which was my point about Levin being the worst offender. I can listen to left wing hosts and spot inconsistencies also.
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I see this as not about politics at all, but about WOR taking a bunch of cash to make the short term look good. Okay, so you get this lump of money right now for the nightly news, but how does it affect the long term billing? What are they going to do after Savage is gone? Like him or not, he IS a personality and that is what talk radio is all about. Not a zero like Smerconish or a snooze-fest like Lou Dobbs and that horrible Joan Hamburg show. Who are they going to put on in that slot if he goes? Another tier III talk host?
 
And Hamburg's show is in-house. Consider that WOR is also replaying their own Dr. Joy Browne in the late evening hours to make room for Dobbs in the first place.

I think everyone's in agreement that there's a weird aura about WOR just running a single segment of NBC News right in the middle of Savage. Maybe money's involved, or maybe NBC forced their hand and threatened to pull their news - I'd rather not know how that sausage is made...
 
Meanwhile, John Mainelli, the former WABC PD who had also worked at WOR for a spell, has wrote on the other board of a very horrific segue out of the NBC News audio feed and back to Savage - which was just going to its own commercial break at that point. Brutal...
 
Look at KCBS in San Francisco they air the first 10 minutes of the CBS Evening news at 3:30 pm. I'm not suprised of hearing the TV News on radio. Also the CBS Flagship all news stations like KCBS, WCBS, WBBM, and KNX airs 60 minutes at 7pm.

But putting Brian Williams on with Savage is odd. Remember back in 2003 he was on MSNBC for a short time and his contract at KSFO was not renewed. once Savage was yanked off MSNBC for his "Aids and Homophobia" rage he was soon on the radio again in San Francisco at KNEW. When did WOR get an NBC affiliation.
 
This most likely is a money deal coupled with a threat. In Philly, KYW must air "Face the Nation" which they do at 3am on Monday mornings.
 
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