All Access just announced that Clear Channel has bought WOR. http://www.allaccess.com/
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WOR BREAKING NEWS!!!
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Personally, I think this increases the chances that WOR will be put on an FM signal. The only problem seems to be that none of the CC signals are really doing poorly in the ratings. WLTW is one of the highest billers in the nation, ditto Z100, Q104.3 seems to be a successful flanker from keeping CBS-FM from beating WLTW, WWPR is flanking Z100, and WKTU is quite successful itself.
I think, if anything, WWPR is the station most likely to be toast, as Urban as a whole is not doing so well. And even then, WWPR is beating Hot 97.
This will be interesting to watch over the next year.
I think, if anything, WWPR is the station most likely to be toast, as Urban as a whole is not doing so well. And even then, WWPR is beating Hot 97.
This will be interesting to watch over the next year.
Well, expect Clear Channel to eventually park its national talkers at 710 as current contracts expire. Great coverage and no payment to stations for compensation. Expect FOX News Radio TOHs to eventually move from WNYM to 710. WNYM has Salem Radio News to fall back on. Since Clear Channel owns Metro Networks, will it become WOR's "News Department"?? 710 already uses Metro. How about some FOX Sports Radio programming over the weekends? Where will NBC News Radio go in NYC?
tgmorg said:
With the exception of Limbaugh, WOR's soon-to-be sister station, KFI, is all local from 5AM to 10PM. WOR could remain local, but add Rush in replacement of Gallagher.
Why would CC buy a declining AM station, blow up a successful FM music station, and put the AM programming on it ? ???
You must have missed these two earlier posts in the thread:
DavidEduardo said:
I think it'll be the latter, sad to say. CC is making this move to insure they will have clearance in New York for Premiere shows. If CC had purchased WOR 15 years ago, they may very well have created another KFI. Not in 2012. Cumulus will simply replace Rush and Sean with their own syndicated programming. I see no way Cumulus will take WABC local, under any circumstance.
New York listeners will now have two 50 kW bastions of syndicated talk, and no local talk. That's a sad commentary since we're talking about market #1.
As I said in the other thread, CC doesn't have a syndicated news/talk morning show. They could use Big D & Bubba or some similar talk entertainment show. But I really believe they will want a live & local morning show, like KFI, to help promote the station. Then go syndicated for the rest of the day.
tgmorg said:
Fox TOH News could remain on both WNYM and WOR. CC buys the newscasts for cash from Fox and places their own spot in the newscasts. WNYM is a Fox affiliate, running Fox commercials. The CC deal with Fox isn't market exclusive, there can be another affiliate besides the CC station.
luperm said:
If Clear Channel puts WOR on an FM HD subchannel (which they probably will), I believe that will leave WQEW (Radio Disney) as the only station that has an AM HD signal without also having an FM HD simulcast. And that station is a perennial ratings cellar-dweller, as are all of the NYC AM stations that aren't in HD at all. So basically, AM HD will be useless, and most people with HD radios will have no need to tune to AM.
But then again, each of the aforementioned cellar-dwelling stations probably still get more listeners than all of the HD subchannels combined. ;D
Nick: said:
I doubt it because I would think rental of the WOR-710 transmitter site may actually cost more per month than renting the FM site atop the Empire State Building.
If WOR owns their transmitter site, Pacifica would have to dole out million$ they don't have to buy the WOR site..
I think Pacifica will end up selling WBAI-99.5 to a commercial broadcaster and probably leave New York.
Okay, this was explained in another thread, but CC CAN'T trade for WBAI. They are maxed out by already owning 5 FM stations in the market. They can only add AM stations to the NYC cluster, for a total of 8 stations, 5 FM and 3 AM.
Contrary to what some people believe, there are still ownership caps. Loose ones for sure, but they are still in place and enforced.
What constitutes 'local' in the modern day, in a big market like #1, on a regional signal like WOR (which, in addition to all of NYC, reaches parts of Philadelphia and several other large markets)? Sports is about the only regional subject of universal interest to an audience reached by that signal, and that format's taken by several other stations. National political talk has worked well for similar signals which is why it's commonly adopted. The demographics are aging, but so is radio's audience. CC sells advertising via national talk programming and wants guaranteed coverage in NYC. Natural fit.radioguy39nj said:New York listeners will now have two 50 kW bastions of syndicated talk, and no local talk. That's a sad commentary since we're talking about market #1.
'Local' doesn't appeal to enough people to cover the expense and income necessary to support a regional terrestrial outlet. People on radio forums continuously bemoan the lack of 'local' talk radio, but what would you program of 'local' or even regional interest on a 710 that would attract a decent sized audience? 'Local' content could be viable, perhaps on cheaper-to-run web stations and LPFMs, but few have kept at it. Local is too expensive to staff on a professional basis because the product doesn't attract sufficient listenership.
Watch what's happening to CBS's talker WPHT in Philadelphia, which dropped Premiere content a few years ago ostensibly to save costs and was just forced into an all-local presentation when lone holdover Rush Limbaugh was shifted to Merlin's new FM talker by Premiere. Initial post-Rush ratings in July for WPHT are down 14% and some of the audience that's still left at PHT is there for Phillies games. (To be fair, some of the audience loss may also be due to a lackluster year for the Phils. The November numbers may be illuminating.)
When media consumers can choose among plentiful sources and they don't choose 'local' topics on regional terrestrial signals (and everything above 100 watts is arguably regional), how can these stations be 'local' and thrive?
They can't. That's why few stations outside of those with decades of heritage even attempt 'local' talk. WOR has had no heritage to speak of for the last 20 years, unless you consider Joan Hamburg 'heritage.'
And even those outlets with some heritage are moving to more regional and national topics, because that's where the audience is.
You can bet that Rush and Beck will be popping up on 710... Beck possibly immediately and Rush in 90 days or so. Hannity could be a bit of a question because there's some kind of joint agreement between CC and Cumeless on his syndication. I'd look for a news/interview morning show, probably anchored by Gambling.... lighter and more feature driven than WINS or WCBS. I'd look at what they're doing with their News/Talk AM's in Tampa, Cleveland, Cincinnati, and San Antonio for clues. Probably a local talk show in PM drive. Sports, who knows. CC has traditionally been a player for P-B-P but may not be willing to shell out stuipd money for the Yankees.
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