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"HD format hopes to body-slam satellite radio to an industry draw"

"Equally uninspiring is the level of support for the format at the store level, a key ingredient for the rollout of any consumer electronics product. The HD Digital Alliance's big preholiday retail announcement was that Circuit City would carry receivers in 10 markets and online, the only big-box chain offering HD. Post-Thanksgiving, a North Austin Circuit City displayed one Boston Acoustics HD receiver on a corner shelf, behind several kiosks promoting satellite. The model was priced at $234 (after rebate), but it couldn't pick up any HD channels. "You'll need an amplified antenna," the salesman said. "I think once I've been able to pick up one HD station with this," he said, flopping around the flimsy, thin wire antenna included with the receiver." :D

http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid:431131

I love it - this is great ! ;D
 
700WLW said:
"Worldwide Radio Wrestling !"

"HD format hopes to body-slam satellite radio to an industry draw"

"Equally uninspiring is the level of support for the format at the store level, a key ingredient for the rollout of any consumer electronics product. The HD Digital Alliance's big preholiday retail announcement was that Circuit City would carry receivers in 10 markets and online, the only big-box chain offering HD. Post-Thanksgiving, a North Austin Circuit City displayed one Boston Acoustics HD receiver on a corner shelf, behind several kiosks promoting satellite. The model was priced at $234 (after rebate), but it couldn't pick up any HD channels. "You'll need an amplified antenna," the salesman said. "I think once I've been able to pick up one HD station with this," he said, flopping around the flimsy, thin wire antenna included with the receiver." :D

http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid:431131

I love it - this is great ! ;D

Actually not a real bad article. Fair treatment of both sides (Unlike your review of the article.) I notice you didn't quote THIS paragraph...

With so much uncertainty, Kagan Research expects only 200,000 to 300,000 HD receivers will be sold this year. That number should jump to more than 2.5 million in 2007, but sales won't really start to ramp up until 2008, when 8.5 million will be sold, according to Kagan's model. From there, sales are expected to almost double every year, to 16 million in 2009 and 27 million in 2010.

Or this..

Few doubt that HD digital technology will eventually become the standard for radio

None the less, a good read for all.

Clouseau
 
HD Radio may become the standard, but nobody is listening - the public is not buying into this joke. With only a few tens-of-thousands HD radios sold, with probably many returned due to lousy reception and poor programming, these HD radio sales figures are way over-blown. And, if the general public continues its apathy towards HD Radio, it will fail to remain the standard, as digital radio is struggling in the UK and failing in Canada. And, as the article stated:

"At the very least, it's fair to say HD is not generating any momentum – the Big Mo – which is considered essential for establishing a new consumer electronics product... Even within the industry, debate rages about the technical aspects of the format and the launch's inability to "wow" consumers."

"First Listen: Radio Shack's $99 HD Radio"

http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid:431131
 
700WLW said:
HD Radio may become the standard, but nobody is listening - the public is not buying into this joke. With only a few tens-of-thousands HD radios sold, with probably many returned due to lousy reception and poor programming, these HD radio sales figures are way over-blown.

Once again I have to ask. Did you even read the article? You know, the article YOU brought up. It says...

"With so much uncertainty, Kagan Research expects only 200,000 to 300,000 HD receivers will be sold this year."

I guess you could say that "200,000 to 300,000" is "a few tens-of-thousands", but it's a pretty desperate twist don't you think??

And, if the general public continues its apathy towards HD Radio, it will fail to remain the standard, as digital radio is struggling in the UK and failing in Canada. And, as the article stated:

"At the very least, it's fair to say HD is not generating any momentum – the Big Mo – which is considered essential for establishing a new consumer electronics product... Even within the industry, debate rages about the technical aspects of the format and the launch's inability to "wow" consumers."

Well you're not going to see a lot of effort put into programming HD until it gets final approval and can generate revenue. I'm actually a little surprised it has had the broadcaster support it has gotten so far, since lack of FCC final approval could make radio's entire investment unusable.

On another front, it is so funny how you can take an article that says HD will sell 11 million radios in the next two years and convieniently not quote that part.

"First Listen: Radio Shack's $99 HD Radio"

This line is not in the article nor is attributed to anything. Were you trying to quote this....

"When RadioShack put an Accurian tabletop HD receiver on sale for $99 the day after Thanksgiving, sales surged, " That's actually in the artivle.

Or was it this....

"Most importantly, the price of receivers is steadily dropping, and a variety of models will soon be readily available for less than $100. " That's also in the article.

Clouseau
 
No way, are there going to be 11 million HD radios sold in the next few years - reviews that have been sitting on Amazon and Circuit City for months have not gotten over two hundred votes each. And, the price-point of HD radios makes no difference:

"HD Radio and the "myth" of price"

http://www.hear2.com/2006/05/hd_radio_and_th.html
 
vsa said:
There one particular quote in the story at...

http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid:431131

...that distills HD Radio down to a nutshell:

"As far back as July, MediaWeek columnist Rich Russo suggested HD stood for "huge debacle.""

(H)uge (D)ebacle. I couldn't agree more.
Here is another quote:
To KUT's Dean, in the current landscape HD is primarily an excuse to create new channels to stream on its Web site. "If HD radio fails in some way, it's not something that I'm concerned about, because the main audience for HD-2 is online," he said.
It sounds as if that is the real "done deal".
 
700WLW said:
No way, are there going to be 11 million HD radios sold in the next few years


Hey, I didn't say that, it's in YOUR article. I just said you had selective hearing. Apparently you do.


Clouseau
 
Here is another quote:
To KUT's Dean, in the current landscape HD is primarily an excuse to create new channels to stream on its Web site. "If HD radio fails in some way, it's not something that I'm concerned about, because the main audience for HD-2 is online," he said.
It sounds as if that is the real "done deal".

Do I even need to point out that KUT is a non comm. It doesn't really mean much in the big picture.

Clouseau
 
clouseau said:
Here is another quote:
To KUT's Dean, in the current landscape HD is primarily an excuse to create new channels to stream on its Web site. "If HD radio fails in some way, it's not something that I'm concerned about, because the main audience for HD-2 is online," he said.
It sounds as if that is the real "done deal".

Do I even need to point out that KUT is a non comm. It doesn't really mean much in the big picture.

Clouseau
Just because you say so, right?
Only God, and you know what means "much in the big picture" and one of you don't count.
 
Do I even need to point out that KUT is a non comm. It doesn't really mean much in the big picture.

Clouseau
Just because you say so, right?
Only God, and you know what means "much in the big picture" and one of you don't count.

That was nice. ;D

However, fair enough. I just wanted to point out that KUT is a non Comm and that I thought Non Comms weren't really a definitive measure of commercial success.

Maybe they are or will be. Sorry if I stepped on your toes about KUT or their GM's opinion.

I try to deal in fact. The fact that the GM of the station would assert this, is pretty strange. Still, he is the GM. His opinion is as valuable as anyone else in a similar position. As I thought I said earlier, I'm not really a Non Comm guy. (At least not yet.) If this GM is representative then they seem to have different goals.

Clouseau
 
clouseau said:
700WLW said:
No way, are there going to be 11 million HD radios sold in the next few years


Hey, I didn't say that, it's in YOUR article. I just said you had selective hearing. Apparently you do.


Clouseau

It ain't going to happen... :D
 
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