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Worst Cable Systems in America

Zito Media Sneedville TN (Hancock County - Knoxville DMA). unclehonkey mentioned it on another thread.

unclehonkey said:
speaking of Sneedville

Sneedville (Hancock County)...as of now Knoxville DMA (was in the Tri Cities DMA a few years ago)
FOX & NBC from Tri Cities
PBS, ABC & CBS from Knoxville (along with Independent)
CW from of all things WGN
My is from Knoxville (but carried in regular lineup...not broadcast)

from zito media (just posted the broadcast lineup)...by the way the lineup shows no HD
2 WETP PBS Knoxville
3 INSP
4 WEMT Fox TriCities
5 WGN The CW
6 WATE ABC Knoxville
7 WKNX Independent
8 WVLT CBS Knoxville
9 Ion Television
10 WCYB NBC TriCities
11 Local Origination
12 C SPAN
13 QVC
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http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...TN41424:X&isDescriptionOn=true&aid=tvschedule
 
mvcg66b3r said:
The New York Public Service Commission wants to force Charter to upgrade this system to get approval for its merger with Time Warner Cable.

http://stopthecap.com/2015/09/28/n-...th-charter-time-warner-cable-merger-proposal/
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Back to Chatham...Here's an article from this past January:

Charter in $15M upgrade of cable, broadband in Chatham under PSC deal

Charter Communications is being forced to spend about $15 million over the next few years to upgrade the cable TV and Internet system in its Chatham territory in Columbia County as part of a deal with state regulators.

The upgrades will cost about $6,000 per customer. Charter must foot the entire bill.

The upgrades are required as part of a list of conditions that Charter has agreed to as part of the state Public Service Commission's approval last week of the company's $55 billion acquisition of Time Warner Cable.

By 2018, Charter must provide its Chatham customers with 100 megabits-per-second Internet service, and it must switch the Chatham TV system to all-digital service as well within 30 months.

That requirement mirrors what Charter must offer to former Time Warner Cable customers statewide. Charter is also required to expand its network to reach 145,000 customers in the current Time Warner Cable footprint who currently cannot get service, especially customers in rural areas. The Chatham upgrades are in addition to the statewide expansion requirements.
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http://www.timesunion.com/tuplus-bu...15M-upgrade-of-cable-broadband-in-6766630.php
 
That Jay, OK lineup looks like it came out of 1992. Only 36 channels and TBS is still listed as WTBS! They haven't changed ABC Family and CMT is "CMTV" on the lineup listing. Wow...

Here's J&N Cable in Naches - not far from me. Not very many channels still.
2 KAPP Yakima (ABC)
4 KNDO Yakima (NBC)
5 HBO
6 KIMA Yakima (CBS)
7 Azteca America
8 KYVE Yakima (PBS)
9 KCYU-LD Yakima (Fox)
10 WGN America
11 KIMA-DT2 Yakima (CW)
12 QVC
13 KUNW-CD Yakima (Univision)
14 Discovery Channel
15 Starz!
16 USA Network
17 Disney Channel
18 Esquire Network
19 Root Sports NW
20 ESPN2
21 ESPN
22 Fox News
23 Lifetime
24 Hallmark Channel
25 TBS
26 CNN
27 HLN
28 Food Network
29 DIY
30 Freeform
31 TNT
32 FX
33 A&E
34 TLC
35 FXM
37 TVW (TV Washington...WA legislature)
38 E!
39 CNBC
40 Cartoon Network
41 Animal Planet
98 TBN
99 C-SPAN

And here's another one from the Yakima Herald - seems woefully out of date to me, but "Columbia Basin Cable" in Nile, WA. I think this was the same system that had KCPQ-13 in the late 1980s.
2 KNDO Yakima (NBC)
3 Spike
4 KIMA Yakima (CBS)
5 CNN (oddly enough, says "CNN I and II" - did they alternate between Headline News and the main CNN network back in the day?)
6 KAPP Yakima (ABC)
7 KYVE Yakima (PBS)
8 WGN America
9 A&E
10 TBS (listed as WTBS)
11 TNT
12 ESPN
13 Discovery Channel
14 AMC
15 Syfy (listed as Sci-Fi)
16 ESPN2
17 HBO
18 KCYU-LD Yakima (Fox)
19 VH1
21 USA Network
22 Disney Channel
23 CMT
24 Headline News...why was it "CNN I and II" on ch 5 I wonder?
25 Animal Planet
26 TBN
 
mvcg66b3r said:
Atlantic Broadband Moorefield WV (Hardy County - Washington DMA)
http://www.zap2it.com/rmp/tvgrid/tvgridprint?lineupid=USA-WV47551-X&tz=US/Eastern&time=1409097600
Just 36 analog channels, limited digital, no HD or VOD. Carries ABC Harrisonburg, ION Martinsburg, FOX and CBS Washington, NBC and FOX Johnstown and NBC Hagerstown.

Happily, Moorefield has locally-owned HardyNet, with a much better lineup and all the major DC stations:
http://www.hardynet.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Insert-1-OneNet-Channel-Lineup-V_6.6.2014.pdf
http://www.hardynet.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Insert-2-OneNet-Channel-Lineup_5.12.2014.pdf
http://www.hardynet.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Insert-8-Premium-Channel-Lineup-V2.pdf
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It appears HardyNet has bought Atlantic's system and may have shut it down! Atlantic doesn't show up in the FCC's Cable Search for Moorefield, yet it's still on Zap2it.

FCC Cable Search Moorefield WV.jpg
Zap2it Moorefield WV.png

Operator Change Request: https://apps.fcc.gov/coals/forms/opchange/opChangePdf.cfm?referenceNumber=290042419

New link to HardyNet's lineup:
http://www.hardynet.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Platinum-Numerically-4.5.2016.pdf
http://www.hardynet.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Premium-Numerically-4.11.2016-1.pdf
 
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I present to you Sunrise Communications in Northeast Michigan:

Atlanta/Hillman/Onaway, MI (Montmorency and Presque Isle counties - Traverse City-Cadillac DMA) has only six digital channels (none of them locals). Also no WBKB despite Hillman being almost on the Alpena County border: http://0101.nccdn.net/1_5/11c/24d/1b6/Atlanta-Hillman-Onaway-Lineup.pdf

Their other lineups are all very similar:
http://0101.nccdn.net/1_5/04f/391/202/Mullett-Posen-Wolverine-Lineup.pdf (Cheboygan and Presque Isle counties - Traverse City-Cadillac DMA)
http://0101.nccdn.net/1_5/2ce/25b/3c0/Drummond-Channel-lineup.pdf (Chippewa County - Traverse City-Cadillac DMA) [none of the six digital channels in the last two systems appear on this one or the following one]
http://0101.nccdn.net/1_5/341/198/062/CHP-Line-Up.pdf (Chippewa and Mackinac counties - Traverse City-Cadillac DMA) [this one adds CHBX]
 
Those Michigan towns in the last two posts appear to have no cable at all, per the FCC's Cable Search.
 
Some bad Midco systems in Minnesota:
Brewster (Nobles County - Sioux Falls DMA): http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...6119&setMyPreference=false&lineupId=MN22592:-
Ceylon (Martin County - Mankato DMA): http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...MN22529:-&isDescriptionOn=true&aid=tvschedule
Heron Lake (Jackson County - Minneapolis DMA): http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...MN22611:-&isDescriptionOn=true&aid=tvschedule
Round Lake (Nobles County - Sioux Falls DMA): http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...MN62680:-&isDescriptionOn=true&aid=tvschedule
Storden (Cottonwood County - Minneapolis DMA): http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...MN54051:-&isDescriptionOn=true&aid=tvschedule
Wanamingo (Goodhue County - Minneapolis DMA): http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...MN58025:-&isDescriptionOn=true&aid=tvschedule

Only the Round Lake and Wanamingo systems show up in the FCC's Cable Search. Brewster, Heron Lake and Round Lake are served by Southwest Broadband's system out of Lakefield (Jackson County - Minneapolis DMA).
http://www.mysmbs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/CableTVChannelLineup.pdf
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...6150&setMyPreference=false&lineupId=MN69271:X
 
American Broadband Missouri
Maitland/Graham/Skidmore (Holt & Nodaway Counties - Kansas City DMA): http://www.abbmissouri.com/Images/Interior/holway_channel_guide_web.pdf
Rich Hill (Bates County - Kansas City DMA): http://www.abbmissouri.com/Images/Interior/abb6_rich_hill_channel_guide_web.pdf
Schell City (Vernon County - Joplin DMA): http://www.abbmissouri.com/Images/Interior/schell city channel guide_011216.pdf

Wheatland (Hickory County - Springfield DMA): http://www.abbmissouri.com/Images/Interior/abb_wheatland_channel_guide_web.pdf
Decent SD lineup, but only one HD channel (Starz).
 
I don't understand how Blue Mountain Cable TV provides KBOI, KNIN and KIVI Boise on their cable, but the NBC is Portland's KGW. Is there no fiber link for KTVB, or was this based off having a Portland station for Oregon viewers? Ch 7 "CW" is also Portland (KRCW).
 
mvcg66b3r said:
Some bad Midco systems in Minnesota:

Only the Round Lake and Wanamingo systems show up in the FCC's Cable Search. Brewster, Heron Lake and Round Lake are served by Southwest Broadband's system out of Lakefield (Jackson County - Minneapolis DMA).
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and that is why you verify it on the Midco site which on those say "no service there" instead of ASSuming Zap2it is correct
 
crainbebo said:
I don't understand how Blue Mountain Cable TV provides KBOI, KNIN and KIVI Boise on their cable, but the NBC is Portland's KGW. Is there no fiber link for KTVB, or was this based off having a Portland station for Oregon viewers? Ch 7 "CW" is also Portland (KRCW).
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unknown but both the DMA maps and Dish's "locals" site (which has to abide by the FCC law) says Portland TV market. I dont know how they are getting those Boise stations there
 
unclehonkey said:
and that is why you verify it on the Midco site which on those say "no service there" instead of ASSuming Zap2it is correct
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I just went to midco.com and entered each town's ZIP Code, and Wanamingo was the only lineup that showed up. As for the other five:

Unfortunately, we currently do not provide services in that area.
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