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Its possible they were at one point in the Boise market but the DMA maps I saw (going back 7-8 years) show Portland

Boise is almost 150 miles away. The reason for Oregon PBS is in both John Day and Seneca there is Oregon PBS translators there.

Cable doesnt always follow the "letter of the law" when it comes to what local stations they provide.

edit: looking at their "history" page they had Boise way back then because "they could be picked up on an antenna" so it sounds like at one point there was translators near by. From their history page (dated way back in the 60's)

A survey of the subscribers of the Blue Mountain Television Cable Co. indicates that a slight majority oppose plans of adding three Portland television channels to the present arrangement.
With 70 per cent of the returns in, 55 per cent opposed plans of adding, Portland channels to the cable system at an additiona1 cost.

The remaining 45 per cent favored adding at least one Portland channel.
Jack McKenna, owner and manager of the cable system, said he is going ahead to investigate other possibilities of securing Portland signals for the John Day area.
McKénna noted that a large number of people have misinterpreted the reason for rates increase by suggesting that the Boise stations be dropped and add the Portland channels for the same price.
This is impossible said McKenna. To bring in the Portland channels the distribution cost will remain the same, but there will be an additional cost of purchasing the signals. This extra cost is the cause for the rate increase of $1.50 to $1.75 a month.
The cable system does not pay for the signals from the two Boise stations. An antenna is used to pick up the Boise signals. To pick up the Portland channels the signals must be sent in via microwaves.
http://www.bmtvcable.com/bmtv_History_of_Blue_MT_TV_Cabl.html
 
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From another thread, here's James M. Mogg's cable system in Cheyenne OK (Roger Mills County - OKC DMA), which I thought had no cable at all:

ftballfan said:
2 - Spike
3 - Freeform
4 - KFOR (NBC Oklahoma City)
5 - KOCO (ABC Oklahoma City)
6 - KOKH (FOX Oklahoma City)
7 - KWET (PBS Cheyenne) // OETA
8 - ESPN
9 - KWTV (CBS Oklahoma City)
10 - TBS
11 - USA Network
13 - WGN America
17 - TBN
18 - KOCB (CW Oklahoma City)
19 - Discovery Channel
20 - CNN
21 - KJTL (FOX Wichita Falls)!
22 - TNT
23 - KOMI (YouToo America Woodward)

Wichita Falls FOX is a big surprise. No movie channels
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Also no ESPN2, KAUT or KSBI.
 
Garden Valley Telco in Northwestern MN (Fargo DMA). Now they do have IPTV in some parts of the area but according to them it varies on the address. They will post the cable listings for some of the areas
Here is the IPTV
http://www.gvtel.com/pdf_file/video_fargolineup2016.pdf

Now as for cable
Clearbrook & Gonvick (Clearwater Co)
2 Garden Valley Local Channel
3 TBS Superstation
4 CBS - KXJB, Fargo
5 WGN - Independent, Chicago
6 ABC - WDAY, Fargo
7 ESPN
8 ABC - WDAZ, Grand Forks
9 PBS - KAWE, Bemidji
10 FOX - KBRR, Thief River Falls
11 NBC - KVLY, Fargo
12 CNN (Cable News Network)
13 PBS - KFME, Fargo
14 USA Network
15 TNT (Turner Network Television)
16 Fox Sports North
18 GAC (Great American County)
20 Clearbrook-Gonvick Local Channel
21 Disney Channel
22* HBO
23 A&E Network
24 The History Channel
25 AMC (American Movie Classics)
26 Discovery Channel
28 CBS - KCCW, Walker
30 ESPN2
31 ABC Family
32 MeTV
http://www.gvtel.com/video_cleargonchannellineup.html

Erskine, Maple Lake, Mentor, Oklee, Plummer, Winger (Polk and Red Lake Co)
2 Garden Valley Local Channel
3 TBS Superstation
4 CBS - KXJB, Fargo
5 WGN - Independent, Chicago
6 ABC - WDAY, Fargo
7 ESPN
8 ABC - WDAZ, Grand Forks
9 PBS - KAWE, Bemidji
10 FOX - KBRR, Thief River Falls
11 NBC - KVLY, Fargo
12 CNN (Cable News Network)
13 PBS - KFME, Fargo
14 USA Network
15 TNT (Turner Network Television)
16 Fox Sports North
18 GAC (Great American County)
21 Disney Channel
22* HBO
23 A&E Network
24 The History Channel
25 AMC (American Movie Classics)
26 Discovery Channel
30 ESPN2
31 ABC Family
32 MeTV
http://www.gvtel.com/video_catvchannellineup.html

McIntosh, MN (Polk Co)...very odd that it starts at channel 7
7 CBS - KXJB, Fargo
8 ABC - WDAY, Fargo
9 PBS - KAWE, Bemidji
10 FOX - KBRR, Thief River Falls
11 NBC - KVLY, Fargo
12 Garden Valley Local Channel
13 PBS - KFME, Fargo
19 AMC (American Movie Classics)
20 Disney Channel
22* HBO
23 A&E Network
25 WGN - Independent, Chicago
26 ESPN
27 ABC Family
28 Discovery Channel
29 Fox Sports North
30 CNN (Cable News Network)
31 TBS Superstation
32 TNT (Turner Network Television)
33 USA Network
34 The History Channel
35 GAC (Great American Country)
zap2it claims that KCPM (My) is on 36 but the listings dont reflect that
http://www.gvtel.com/video_mcintoshchannellineup.html

Fertile, MN (Polk CO)

*2 Cinemax Movies
3 TBS Superstation
4 CBS - KXJB, Fargo
5 CNN
6 ABC - WDAY, Fargo
*7 HBO
8 TV Land
9 WGN
10 FOX - KBRR, Thief River Falls
11 NBC - KVLY, Fargo
12 Local Channel
13 KFME - Prairie Public
14 Cartoon Network
15 A&E Network
16 TCM (Turner Classic Movies)
17 ABC Family
18 Spike TV
19 Lifetime
20 Food Network
21 FOX Sports North
22 Disney
23 Nickelodeon
24 USA Network
*25 Encore Movies
26 TNT (Turner Network)
27 ESPN
28 ESPN2
29 Discovery Channel
30 Syfy
31 CMT (Country Music Television)
32 E! Entertainment Television
33 MTV
34 VH1
35 QVC
36 Comedy Central
http://www.gvtel.com/video_fertilechannellineup.html

St. Hilaire (Pennington CO)
2 Garden Valley Local Channel
3 TBS Superstation
4 CBS - KXJB, Fargo
5 WGN - Independent, Chicago
6 ABC - WDAY, Fargo
7 ESPN
8 ABC - WDAZ, Grand Forks
9 PBS - KAWE, Bemidji
10 FOX - KBRR, Thief River Falls
11 NBC - KVLY, Fargo
12 CNN (Cable News Network)
13 PBS - KFME, Fargo
14 USA Network
15 TNT (Turner Network Television)
16 Fox Sports North
18 GAC (Great American County)
20 St. Hilaire Local Channel
21 Disney Channel
22* HBO
23 A&E Network
24 The History Channel
25 AMC (American Movie Classics)
26 Discovery Channel
30 ESPN2
31 ABC Family
32 MeTV
http://www.gvtel.com/video_sthilairechannellineup.html

And before someone says it :rolleyes: yes we all know. KXJB CBS is no more. Its KVLY-DT2 but that is what shows on the listings. They still ID as "KX4"
 
ftballfan said:
Mediacom Mendon, MI (St. Joseph County - Grand Rapids/Kalamazoo DMA): http://www.mediacomtoday-lineup.com/lineup/413/mendon_mi.aspx

No digital cable, PBS, or MNT, yet carries both religious independents from Grand Rapids and the independent from South Bend.
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And it only has one of Grand Rapids' two ABC affiliates.

ftballfan said:
Mediacom Marcellus, MI (Cass County - South Bend DMA): http://www.mediacomtoday-lineup.com/lineup/411/marcellus_mi.aspx

No digital cable or MNT. Also doesn't carry in-market ABC station.
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You mentioned those two systems way back in this thread.

ftballfan said:
Mediacom has some as well.
Marcellus, MI (South Bend DMA): http://www.zap2it.com/tvlistings/marcellus?zip=49067&mso=14520&store=1&lineupid=USA-MI55173-DEFAULT
Mendon, MI (Grand Rapids DMA): http://www.zap2it.com/tvlistings/mendon?zip=49072&mso=14520&store=1&lineupid=USA-MI21651-DEFAULT
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BTW, the Zap2it links are outdated.
 
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mvcg66b3r said:
Comcast Jamestown TN (Fentress County - Knoxville DMA)
http://www.zap2it.com/rmp/tvgrid/tvgridprint?lineupid=USA-TN41493-X&tz=US/Central&time=1410220800
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mvcg66b3r said:
Comcast Huntsville TN (Scott County - Knoxville DMA)
http://www.zap2it.com/rmp/tvgrid/tvgridprint?lineupid=USA-TN41413-X&tz=US/Eastern&time=1410220800
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mvcg66b3r said:
Comcast Wartburg TN (Morgan County - Knoxville DMA)
http://www.zap2it.com/rmp/tvgrid/tvgridprint?lineupid=USA-TN41547-X&tz=US/Eastern&time=1410220800
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Happily, all three towns are served by much better, locally-owned systems with HD channels.
Jamestown has Twin Lakes Communications: http://twlakes.net/documents/TL_ChannelLineup_Jan2015_V16_WEB.pdf
Huntsville and Wartburg have Highland Media: http://highlandtel.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/2016-02-01-HTC-TN-Channel-Lineup.pdf

BTW, here are the updated Zap2it links for the Comcast systems:
Jamestown: http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...8556&setMyPreference=false&lineupId=TN41493:X
Huntsville: http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...7756&setMyPreference=false&lineupId=TN41413:X
Wartburg: http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...7887&setMyPreference=false&lineupId=TN41547:X
 
mvcg66b3r said:
Charter – Hale/Plainfield MI (Iosco Co., Flint DMA)
34 channels. Carries CBS, NBC and ABC from Flint, CBS from Alpena and FOX from Traverse City.
No ESPN2 or C-SPAN.

2 HBO Subscription Services
3 TBS Basic Service|Charter TV Select
4 ABC Family Basic Service|Charter TV Select
5 WNEM - CBS Basic Service|Charter TV Select
6 QVC Basic Service|Charter TV Select
7 CNN Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
8 WEYI - NBC Basic Service|Charter TV Select
9 ESPN Basic Service|Charter TV Select
10 USA Network Basic Service|Charter TV Select
11 WBKB - CBS Basic Service|Charter TV Select
12 WJRT - ABC Basic Service|Charter TV Select
13 WCML - PBS Basic Service|Charter TV Select
14 Syfy Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
15 WGN America Basic Service|Charter TV Select
17 The Movie Channel Subscription Services
18 Discovery Channel Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
19 Nickelodeon Basic Service|Charter TV Select
20 Spike TV Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
21 Showtime Subscription Services
22 Disney Channel Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
23 AMC Basic Service|Charter TV Select
24 TLC Basic Service|Charter TV Select
25 WFQX - FOX Basic Service|Charter TV Select
26 A&E Basic Service|Charter TV Select
27 MTV Basic Service|Charter TV Select
28 VH1 Basic Service|Charter TV Select
29 Lifetime Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
30 FOX Sports Detroit Basic Service|Charter TV Select
31 TNT Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
32 The Weather Channel Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
33 FOX Sports 1 Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
34 Animal Planet Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
35 Discovery Fit & Health Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
36 NBC Sports Network Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
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Two years later, this system has been massively upgraded: http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...8739&setMyPreference=false&lineupId=MI54922:X
 
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