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Worst Cable Systems in America

Have I mentioned the Passcom systems at Snoqualmie Pass and Easton yet? Still awful and small to this day.

Snoqualmie Pass
2 TNT
3 HBO (pay-TV)
4 KOMO Seattle (ABC)
5 KING Seattle (NBC)
6 ESPN
7 KIRO Seattle (CBS)
8 FOOD
9 KCTS Seattle (PBS)
10 CNN
11 MSNBC
12 Discovery Channel
13 KCPQ Seattle (Fox)
14 TBS
15 ESPNEWS
16 Fox News
17 USA Network
18 TLC
19 Freeform
20 Root Sports NW
21 TCM
22 ESPN2
23 C-SPAN
24 CBUT Vancouver (CBC)
25 Lifetime
26 A&E
27 CNBC
28 History Channel
29 Cartoon Network
30 QVC
31 Disney Channel
32 NBCSN (marked 'Universal Sports', probably just NBCSN.)
33 Bravo
34 Hallmark Channel
35 AMC
36 TVW
37 FX
39 National Geographic
96 Univision (national feed, not KUNS)
*Only one pay-TV channel with no CW, MNTV, KBTC or KONG. I'm sure there's tons of satellite dishes on those vacation homes.

And in Easton...
2 Community Access
3 Freeform
4 KOMO Seattle (ABC)
5 KING Seattle (NBC)
6 TBS
7 KIRO Seattle (CBS)
8 A&E
9 KCTS Seattle (PBS)
10 ESPN
11 Discovery Channel
12 QVC
13 KCPQ Tacoma (Fox)
14 ESPN2
15 FX
16 CNN
17 TNT
18 USA Network
19 TLC
20 History Channel
21 Disney Channel
22 (was NWCN prior to shutdown. Probably empty now.)
23 MSNBC
24 CNBC
25 Pivot
26 MTV
27 Lifetime
28 Nick
29 Root Sports NW
30 AMC
31 TBN (probably via national feed and not KTBW)
32 Paramount Network
33 VH1
34 HLN
35 Cartoon Network
36 Animal Planet
37 Weather Channel
40 HSN
43 CMT
44 Golf Channel
45 National Geographic

Digital Basic
308 GSN
320 National Geographic (again?)
326 OWN
328 Destination America
329 Discovery Family (still marked as the Hub)
330 American Heroes
331 Investigation Discovery
332 Science
335 Syfy
340 FYI (still marked as Biography)
341 Vice (still marked as H2)
342 BBC America
372 Lifetime Movie (still marked as LMN)
384 HGTV
420 Bloomberg
441 ESPNEWS
451 FXX
455 NBCSN
456 Outdoor Channel
457 FS1
458 Discovery Life
490 FXM

Premium
610 Encore (E)
611 Encore (W)
612 Encore Action (E)
613 Encore Action (W)
614 Encore Classic (E)
615 Encore Classic (W)
616 Encore Suspense (E)
617 Encore Suspense (W)
618 Encore Black (E)
619 Encore Black (W)
620 Encore Westerns (E)
621 Encore Westerns (W)
630 HBO-E
631 HBO-W
632 HBO Family-E
633 HBO Family-W
634 HBO2-E
635 HBO2-W
636 HBO Signature-E
637 HBO Signature-W
650 Showtime-E
651 Showtime-W
652 Showtime 2-E
653 Showtime 2-W
654 Showcase-E
655 Showcase-W
656 Showtime Extreme-E
657 Showtime Extreme-W
670 Starz-E
671 Starz-W
672 Starz Edge-E
673 Starz Edge-W
680 Movie Channel-E
681 Movie Channel-W
682 Movie Channel Xtra-E
683 Movie Channel Xtra-W

Music Channels
917 Coffeehouse Rock
920 8-Tracks
921 '80s Hits
922 '70s Hits
925 Soft Hits
926 Traditional Country
929 Smooth Jazz
931 New Age
932 Holidays & Happenings
934 The Spirit
 
mvcg66b3r said:
Cox Midland AR (Sebastian County - Fort Smith-Fayetteville DMA)
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...AR67817:-&isDescriptionOn=true&aid=tvschedule
But when you enter ZIP code 72945 on cox.com, it gives you the full Fort Smith lineup:
https://www.cox.com/content/dam/cox/residential/documents/tv/channel-lineup/arkansas/cl_ft_smith.pdf
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Apparently Midland now gets the full Fort Smith lineup per Zap2it and cox.com:
https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/api/p...18-11-04T02:00Z&dstOffset=-300&stdOffset=-360
https://www.cox.com/wcm/cl/Fort-Smith-Arkansas.pdf

Hard to believe this used to be a separate system.
 
mvcg66b3r said:
Suddenlink Pahrump NV (Nye County - Las Vegas DMA). Decent SD lineup and some HD channels, but no ESPN2 HD, no PPV or VOD and only local PBS, FOX and ABC in HD. And that's despite Pahrump having a population of 36,441.
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...NV55011:X&isDescriptionOn=true&aid=tvschedule
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Suddenlink just added CBS and NBC Las Vegas in HD. Otherwise, not much change.
https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/api/p...18-11-04T02:00Z&dstOffset=-420&stdOffset=-480
 
ftballfan said:
Time Warner in Salineville, OH (Columbiana County - Youngstown DMA). No HD, limited digital cable, 39 analog channels, and doesn't really know which market it is in. KDKA (CBS), WPGH (FOX), WPMY (MNT), WPXI (NBC), WQED (PBS), and WTAE (ABC) come from Pittsburgh. WFMJ (NBC), WKBN (CBS), WNEO (PBS), and WYTV (ABC) come from Youngstown. WTOV (NBC) comes from Steubenville: http://www.zap2it.com/rmp/tvgrid/tvgridprint?lineupid=USA-OH34467-X&tz=US/Eastern&time=0
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mvcg66b3r said:
No CW from any market, not even in-market WFMJ-DT2. Also no WYFX-LD (FOX). I entered Salineville's ZIP code (43945) on timewarnercable.com and it said "Try another ZIP code". It's like they think this system doesn't exist.
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mvcg66b3r said:
I did some research, and it turns out Salineville is served by Crystal Broadband. Either Time Warner sold the system or Zap2it got the company wrong.
http://crystalbn.com/prod/printlineup.php?r=43945
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This system was just bought by Ohio-based MCTV and got a massive upgrade. Mostly Youngstown channels in HD (including CW), but also has PBS HD from Pittsburgh.
https://www.mctvohio.com/uploads/salinevilleiptvlineup.pdf
 
Two bad Spectrum systems in Calhoun County TX (Houston DMA, but should be in Victoria)

Port O'Connor: https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/api/p...19-11-03T02:00Z&dstOffset=-300&stdOffset=-360
Only Houston's Big 3, PBS and MNT are carried, along with ABC and FOX Victoria.

Seadrift: https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/api/p...19-11-03T02:00Z&dstOffset=-300&stdOffset=-360
Has Corpus Christi's Big 3 and PBS, plus ABC and FOX Victoria.

No digital or HD on either system, and both have premium channels in the 2-13 range.
 
unclehonkey said:
Eagle Cablevision in Remer, MN

13 channels
2 TNT
3 CNN
4 WGN
5 TBS
6 KARE (NBC)
7 ABC FAMILY
8 ESPN
9 KAWE (PBS)
10 DISCOVERY
11 FS NORTH
12 KCCW (CBS)
13 WDIO (ABC)
15 USA

14 USE to be FoxNet (yes the same Foxnet in areas where there was no Fox near there). When it was dropped they never tried to pick up Fox OTA (actually you would need a pretty elaborate setup to pick it up)
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Thats actually not bad.
 
GuyfromYTown said:
Atlantic Broadband bought the system and will make upgrades to it:
https://www.vagazette.com/news/va-vg-king-william-atlantic-broadband-0610-story.html
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There have already been some changes (Zap2it hasn't updated it yet; lineup from Atlantic's official website):
3 WRLH MyTV/TBD TV, Richmond
6 WTVR-6 (CBS), Richmond
7 WCVW (PBS), Richmond
8 WRIC-8 (ABC), Richmond
9 WCVE-23 (PBS), Richmond
10 WRLH-35 (FOX), Richmond
11 WUPV (CW), Richmond
12 WWBT-12 (NBC), Richmond
14 HSN
15 C-SPAN
16 C-SPAN 2
20 Atlantic Broadband Local Channel
21 QVC
22 EWTN
23 ESPN
24 ESPN2
25 ESPNU
26 MLB Network
27 Fox Sports 1
28 NBC Sports Network
29 MASN
30 MASN2
31 Fox Sports 2
32 Outdoor Channel
33 BBC World News
34 CNN
35 HLN
36 CNBC
37 The Weather Channel
38 Fox News
39 MSNBC
40 OWN
41 USA Network
42 Freeform
43 Hallmark Channel
44 Hallmark Movies & Mysteries
45 TBS
46 TV Land
47 TNT
48 A&E
49 Syfy
50 Nickelodeon
51 Cartoon Network
52 Disney Channel
53 Discovery Channel
54 Travel Channel
55 Animal Planet
56 National Geographic
57 History
58 truTV
59 Bravo
60 Lifetime
61 LMN
62 Disney Junior
63 E!
64 Food Network
65 HGTV
66 TLC
67 AMC
68 TCM
69 FX Movie Channel
70 FX
71 Paramount Network
72 Comedy Central
74 Oxygen
75 BET
76 MTV
77 VH1
78 CMT
79 BBC America
80 Investigation Discovery
81 Justice Central
82 Music Choice Play
83 Jewelry TV
84 WGN America
87 WE
88 FXX
89 CBS Sports Network
90 Tennis Channel
98 QVC2
108 WTVR Antenna TV, Richmond
112 WTVR CBS6 Xtra, Richmond
113 WRLH Comet, Richmond
117 WRLH Charge TV, Richmond
118 Fox Business Network
124 WWBT MeTV, Richmond
125 WUPV Grit TV, Richmond
126 WWBT Escape TV, Richmond
127 WUPV Bounce TV, Richmond
128 WRIC Get TV, Richmond
129 WCVE (PBS) MHz TV Worldview, Richmond
130 WCVE (PBS) Create, Richmond
300 HBO
301 HBO 2
302 HBO Signature
303 HBO Family
304 HBO Comedy
305 HBO Zone
325 HBO HD
350 Cinemax
351 MoreMAX
352 ActionMAX
353 ThrillerMAX
375 Cinemax HD
400 Showtime
401 Showtime 2
402 Showtime Showcase
403 Showtime Extreme
404 Showtime Women
405 Showtime Family Zone
406 Showtime Next
407 The Movie Channel
408 The Movie Channel Xtra
409 Flix
425 Showtime HD
706 WTVR-6 HD (CBS), Richmond
707 WCVW HD (PBS), Richmond
708 WRIC-8 HD (ABC), Richmond
709 WCVE-23 HD (PBS), Richmond
710 WRLH-35 HD (FOX), Richmond
711 WUPV HD (CW), Richmond
712 WWBT-12 HD (NBC), Richmond
714 HSN HD
715 C-SPAN HD
716 C-SPAN 2 HD
721 QVC HD
722 QVC2 HD
 
mvcg66b3r said:
Here are two Cox systems in Arizona that could use some upgrading:

Tombstone/Cochise County
http://media.cox.com/support/print_media/tv/cls/arizona/cl_tombstone.pdf
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This system closed in 2017.

In addition to Huachuca City, the communities of Whetstone and Tombstone will be affected by Cox’s decision to discontinue its cable service.

Tombstone council approved the contract termination at its Feb. 14 meeting, while Whetstone — an unincorporated area — will need a vote from the Cochise County Board of Supervisors, said Michelle Bolton, director of government relations for Cox Communications Southwestern region.
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https://www.myheraldreview.com/free...cle_482323fa-084e-11e7-bc61-734346aa430d.html
 
ftballfan said:
Martell Cable's lineup from their website: http://www.martellcable.com/services.php

The lineup is from 2015 or 2016. Here is their Zap2it lineup: https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/api/p...19-11-03T02:00Z&dstOffset=-240&stdOffset=-300

This small company is based in Vermontville, MI (Eaton County - Lansing DMA) and also serves Nashville, MI (Barry County - Grand Rapids DMA). The two communities share a school district as well.
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Those two towns don't even show up on the FCC's Cable Search. This company may be in trouble with the state:

MPSC orders 2 cable companies to provide required documentation
https://www.michigan.gov/som/0,4669,7-192-26847-495493--,00.html
 
kidrauhl said:
Eagle Cablevision in Remer, MN

13 channels
2 TNT
3 CNN
4 WGN
5 TBS
6 KARE (NBC)
7 ABC FAMILY
8 ESPN
9 KAWE (PBS)
10 DISCOVERY
11 FS NORTH
12 KCCW (CBS)
13 WDIO (ABC)
15 USA

14 USE to be FoxNet (yes the same Foxnet in areas where there was no Fox near there). When it was dropped they never tried to pick up Fox OTA (actually you would need a pretty elaborate setup to pick it up)

Thats actually not bad.
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Considering this is Minnesota, and the Minnesota Vikings would be on Fox most of the time, this would be bad to not have FOX. Certainly bad for the die hard sports fan who'd have to get satellite TV just to watch their games.
 
NoDakObserver said:
Considering this is Minnesota, and the Minnesota Vikings would be on Fox most of the time, this would be bad to not have FOX. Certainly bad for the die hard sports fan who'd have to get satellite TV just to watch their games.
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I dont know if the system even exists anymore. zap2it/screener doesnt list it. Looking at the Telco (Johnson Telco) they parter with Consolidated Telephone (not Consolidated cable) in Brainerd on something called "skitter Tv" which is basically a IPTV cloud based product. You get a Roku and they have 3 options. locals + religious/shipping, Prime is the main programming and total is the upper package. There is a cloud based DVR available with 100 hrs + the option to add more storage

https://skitter.tv/

The JTC website says you need a box for $7 but the CTC site says a free roku
http://www.jtccompanies.com/2019_Monthly_Subscription_Prices_-_Single.pdf
https://www.goctc.com/residential/ctctv/skittertv/

So I think Eagle Cablevision is dead....
 
unclehonkey said:
I dont know if the system even exists anymore. zap2it/screener doesnt list it. Looking at the Telco (Johnson Telco) they parter with Consolidated Telephone (not Consolidated cable) in Brainerd on something called "skitter Tv" which is basically a IPTV cloud based product. You get a Roku and they have 3 options. locals + religious/shipping, Prime is the main programming and total is the upper package. There is a cloud based DVR available with 100 hrs + the option to add more storage

https://skitter.tv/

The JTC website says you need a box for $7 but the CTC site says a free roku
http://www.jtccompanies.com/2019_Monthly_Subscription_Prices_-_Single.pdf
https://www.goctc.com/residential/ctctv/skittertv/

So I think Eagle Cablevision is dead....
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I work for a company that provides services to telephone co-ops and small telecoms like this. So I have heard of Skitter, we are starting to see more use of that service pop up all around the country. Makes a lot of sense to me, it feels like it would be a lot less infrastructure to support than the traditional cable systems require. And for the smaller companies, less infrastructure requirements means they can spend more on the actual service/channels themselves.
 
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