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Worst single edit songs

> Been thru all the posts, and nobody's mentioned the Doors'
> "Light my Fire". The stations only played the short version.
> It was a treat to finally buy the album and discover what
> had been edited out.

I like the mono 45 version, the original Elekra 45 has tremendous punch, though its a little "pitched" compared to the LP version. Too bad the single version hasnt made it to CD thanks to the band's tight fisted grip on thier catalog.

> Also, The Contours' "Do You Love Me" seems to fade out at
> the end and then pops back in for what seems to be a better
> place to fade out. I don't know if that was an edit; it just
> sounded like it was a mistake.

From all the stories I read, it was intentional. Berry Gordy wrote the song, so it might have been his idea. I have seen it fake out so many dancers and DJ's.
 
Ho Ho Ho.

Ricky the K was a guest on The Lost Tapes hosted by George Gimarc. (www.gimarc.com) on KRLD.

The topic was, "What are the shortest songs on your (Ricky's) playlist."

#1 and #2 were on Disney Records.

l. Let's Get Together
2. First Name Initial- Annette
3. Stay-Maurice Williams

> > The worst edit is Let's Get Together By Haley Mills cut
> down
> > to 1:28 from its original 8:00 album length.
> >
>
> That's just sloppy. There's no good reason for them to have
> missed that final 1:28.
>
>
> -Dessicated Dick
>
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> > Been thru all the posts, and nobody's mentioned the Doors'
> > "Light my Fire". The stations only played the short version.
> > It was a treat to finally buy the album and discover what
> > had been edited out.
>
> I like the mono 45 version, the original Elekra 45 has
> tremendous punch, though its a little "pitched" compared to
> the LP version. Too bad the single version hasnt made it to
> CD thanks to the band's tight fisted grip on thier catalog.

I had been hearing the single version for a couple of months in summer '67, and I wasn't even aware of the album version until I heard it on a college station. It blew my ten year old mind at the time.

> > Also, The Contours' "Do You Love Me" seems to fade out at
> > the end and then pops back in for what seems to be a better
> > place to fade out. I don't know if that was an edit; it just
> > sounded like it was a mistake.
>
> From all the stories I read, it was intentional. Berry Gordy
> wrote the song, so it might have been his idea. I have seen
> it fake out so many dancers and DJ's.

It was the old "false ending" gimmick. Other examples include the Young Rascals version of "Good Lovin'" and the Four Tops "Bernadette", though "Do You Love Me" predated both of those.
 
> It was the old "false ending" gimmick. Other examples
> include the Young Rascals version of "Good Lovin'" and the
> Four Tops "Bernadette", though "Do You Love Me" predated
> both of those.
>
And how about the mono single of Suspicious Minds?
 
> > It was the old "false ending" gimmick. Other examples
> > include the Young Rascals version of "Good Lovin'" and the
> > Four Tops "Bernadette", though "Do You Love Me" predated
> > both of those.

> And how about the mono single of Suspicious Minds?

That one never completely faded to silence before the comeback, so if the station had heavy enough audio compression, you didn't even hear the fade down. The compressor would bring it right up to the average audio level, though you may have heard an increase in background noise (record surface noise, hiss, etc...) when that was happening.
 
Do You Want To Dance by Bobby Freeman in 1959 had a false ending.

I am not sure if the rock and roll version of In The Mood had a false ending.

> It was the old "false ending" gimmick. Other examples
> include the Young Rascals version of "Good Lovin'" and the
> Four Tops "Bernadette", though "Do You Love Me" predated
> both of those.
>
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Not a single, but Helter Skelter by The Beatles has a very long fade out at the end. I only hear stations play it through about half of the time.

> That one never completely faded to silence before the
> comeback, so if the station had heavy enough audio
> compression, you didn't even hear the fade down. The
> compressor would bring it right up to the average audio
> level, though you may have heard an increase in background
> noise (record surface noise, hiss, etc...) when that was
> happening.
>
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> > And how about the mono single of Suspicious Minds?
>
> That one never completely faded to silence before the
> comeback, so if the station had heavy enough audio
> compression, you didn't even hear the fade down. The
> compressor would bring it right up to the average audio
> level, though you may have heard an increase in background
> noise (record surface noise, hiss, etc...) when that was
> happening.
>
Ah yes, Eli, you're correct... although I remember feeling very gypped when "OR-FM" regularly played a stereo version which was not available to the general public. Man how long did we all wait to be able to buy an Elvis LP with Suspicious Minds in stereo? I remember RCA released quite a few stereo singles by many other artists except Elvis songs. Weird.
 
> Ah yes, Eli, you're correct... although I remember feeling
> very gypped when "OR-FM" regularly played a stereo version
> which was not available to the general public. Man how long
> did we all wait to be able to buy an Elvis LP with
> Suspicious Minds in stereo? I remember RCA released quite a
> few stereo singles by many other artists except Elvis songs.
> Weird.
>

Stereo singles in general were rather hit or miss in the early 70s...no pattern to it at all. I think Elvis' first stereo single was "Burnin' Love".
 
Re: single edit songs

> I've also heard at least one "intermediate" edit of "Time
> Has Come Today" by The Chambers Brothers, that clocks
> somewhere in between the short single version and the
> original 13 minute album epic.
>

That album is called "The Time Has Come". I've heard the album version of THCT and IMO it's great. Comes complete with guitar stealing the hook from "The Little Drummer Boy"(!). Too bad the rest of the LP is lame (including a mediocre version of "What the World Needs Now is Love" IIRC). The copy I listened to 20 years ago I borrowed from my library.

ixnay
 
Re: single edit songs

I have at least one copy of the LP. Probably two. The only time that I ever listened to the other songs was when I bought it. Probably in 1971.


> That album is called "The Time Has Come". I've heard the
> album version of THCT and IMO it's great. Comes complete
> with guitar stealing the hook from "The Little Drummer
> Boy"(!). Too bad the rest of the LP is lame (including a
> mediocre version of "What the World Needs Now is Love"
> IIRC). The copy I listened to 20 years ago I borrowed from
> my library.
>
> ixnay
>
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Re: single edit songs

They did a nice cover of Curtis Mayfield & The Impressions "People Get Ready", but that was on a different album.

> I have at least one copy of the LP. Probably two. The only
> time that I ever listened to the other songs was when I
> bought it. Probably in 1971.
>
>
> > That album is called "The Time Has Come". I've heard the
> > album version of THCT and IMO it's great. Comes complete
> > with guitar stealing the hook from "The Little Drummer
> > Boy"(!). Too bad the rest of the LP is lame (including a
> > mediocre version of "What the World Needs Now is Love"
> > IIRC). The copy I listened to 20 years ago I borrowed from
> > my library.
> >
> > ixnay
> >
>
 
Re: single edit songs

> Stairway To Heaven was not released on a single. Yes, there
> are promo singles of it and they are probably worth a few
> bucks, but no regular single release.
>
> Black Dog and Rock And Roll were single releases from Led
> Zepplin IV.
> >
> > And on a sidebar, isn't it interesting how no one has
> > touched "Stairway To Heaven"? I have yet to hear a short
> > version of that song. I guess fans have some pull after
> all.
> >
Hall & Oates had a few promo edit version in the 80's:

How Does It Feel To Be Back: The album version clocks in at 4:32, but the DJ promo version is at 3:58 sadly.

Maneater: 4:32 is the total time of their 1982 #1 hit single, but the DJ promo version clocks in 3:20, Casey Kasem played the promo version during the song run on American Top 40.

One On One: The album version is in 4:19 heaven, the remix edit version at 3:39 make it place on the DJ Promo Version.

Family Man: Same as the album version.

Method Of Modern Love: This one of my favorite promo version of this song, which clocks in at 4:19, this first 3:59 edit version didn't have any zing, all they did is chopped few section of the 5:25 album version.

That's it for now...Until then Stay Retro!!!!!!


Mike B
 
Re: single edit songs--6 or so that DRIVE ME NUTZ!!!!

Didn't get a chance to read all of the posts...my "pet peeves" when it came to single edits include:

"Baby Hold On" by Eddie Money---Columbia fades it at 3:10 instead of letting it go on for another 10-15 seconds where it ended cold! Whoever came up with that idea of editing that song---NUTZ!!

"Lady" by the Little River Band---some stations play the edited or short version, and it sounds awful.....fading the vocal right in the middle of the chorus....The album version is the best! That's true with "Reminiscing" as well...you wind up missing an entire bridge and a great part of the song...

"Just The Way You Are" by Billy Joel----what a butchering of a great piece of music...there's an entire section of the song missing and the single edit fades right in the middle of the chorus.....the album version is far superior.

"The Heart Of The Matter" by Don Henley---again what is wrong with a 5 minute song....the single edit sucks same with "The Last Worthless Evening."

"One Of These Nights" by the Eagles.....again what a butchering of a great song....the LP version is the ONLY one to play

"Please Forgive Me"----the single edit misses a great intro before Bryan sings and is much better to mix with other songs....

"Hard To Say I'm Sorry---Getaway" by Chicago.....I absolutely HATE IT when a station plays the short version where they fade this great piece of music before the "Getaway" part begins......Same thing with "Will You Still Love Me," the single edit totally screws up a great song.

Enough ranting and raving from yours truly!!

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The 45 RPM edit of "House of The Rising Sun" by The Animals has to be the worst although it aired on Top 40 stations for years before AOR stations came across the original album cut in the 70s.
 
Steven Green said:
All that piano is a waste of time. It is not even an interesting piano solo, but just sounds like filler.
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I assume you post of D&TD's "Layla". Looks like you and I will have to agree to disagree on that piano solo. There are better ones, but to call that one filler is a stretch.Now get out your Whitburn Top 40 book (1996 [6th] ed.). The short version of "Layla" was released in 1971 and reached #51. The long version became a single in 1972 and reached #10. I turned 11 in the summer of '72 (the summer of "Layla"'s top 40 run) and saw the Peanuts movie Snoopy Come Home that summer. Point of that digression: the rest of the summer, I couldn't hear the piano part of "Layla" without imagining Schroeder at the keyboard. That solo would have fit his musical taste perfectly. :)Back to topic: Hopefully before I leave this earth I hear the full length version of McCartney & Wings' "With a Little Luck" one more time. I assume that version is on "London Town", right? Which version(s) is/are on "Wings Greatest" and "Wingspan"?ixnayixnay
 
ixnay said:
Steven Green said:
All that piano is a waste of time. It is not even an interesting piano solo, but just sounds like filler.
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I assume you post of D&TD's "Layla". Looks like you and I will have to agree to disagree on that piano solo. There are better ones, but to call that one filler is a stretch.Now get out your Whitburn Top 40 book (1996 [6th] ed.). The short version of "Layla" was released in 1971 and reached #51. The long version became a single in 1972 and reached #10.
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Was that all six minutes? I thought the second single version still edited the instrumental somewhat--or was that an edit that WLS did to it?(I still remember 'LS' edit of "Stairway to Heaven." I was amazed that Gehron left it on for as long as he did--listeners had to have complained.)
 
I simply HAVE to put in my two cents here....Nobody has mentioned the hatchet job they did on "Freddie's Dead" to make the single. Not that I didn't like the extra bass riff, but they completely reassembled the song to make it into a single.Anybody remember how many times UA Records tried to make a hit out of "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty? They made it shorter, then longer, speeded it up, cut it up, before the song finally caught on. I used to have 3 or 4 different single edits. I can't say I'm without blame however. I was so in love with "And You & I" by Yes (back in 1972 when I worked at KOTN in Pine Bluff, AR) that I cut it down to about 4:30. A few years later, I was editing George Benson's "On Broadway", so I could get it past my GM at KBIZ in Ottumwa, IA, who hated almost all black artists.And, how many stations did custom edits of "Kodachrome" to get rid of the word "crap"?Ah the memories!!!!Art Morriswww.artmorris.com
 
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