Make Me Smile/Chicago.... Let It Be/Single Version over the Guitar Solo LP Version with George Harrison killer lead... 25 or 6 to 4 with the cut lead solo of Terry Kath.... Edit of Dream On/Aerosmith... Slow Ride/Foghat... Maggie Mae/Rod Stewart without cool acoustic guitar intro.... Jackie Blue/Ozark Mountain Daredevils... Amie/Pure Prairie League... Freebird/Lynyrd Skynyrd... Won't Get Fooled Again/The Who... Many more...
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Worst single edit songs
- Thread starter retromike75
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ErieDJGuy said:... After all, aren't the short versions what we all grew up on in the 60's and 70's?
Sounds like me, except I've been collecting them since I started in radio. It's only been the last decade that I've decided to remaster all my promo or retail single versions to go into the collection. Now that noise reduction software actually works it makes the effort pretty painless to restore and archive these gems. I also find it nice if I want to restore an old aircheck that was 'scoped that I have the right version to bring it back to the way it was aired.
I do have to admit, there are some songs that are much better left in their LP state - I don't think I would ever play the single edit of "American Pie"
SPECIAL EDITS BY STATIONS... "The Chicken Rock" Syndrome.... We had WJPS/1330 in the 60's-70's and they put all potiential 45's to be carted for play on a reel and had the middle aged office manager play it backwards on the two track reel, to see if any 'backmasking' was occuring (about '73 to '77)... Then she'd listen to th 45 edit at about 40 rpm to listen for 'naughty' words... Then the MD/PD/Production people would make required edits on reel (grease pen and razor blade with splicing tape) and then they would dub to two track cart (mono mode)..... Funny edits of the "Big-13" were:
"Sunshine" by Jonathan Edwards (Cut from the 2:02 single and lasted about 1:28) They cut out "I'll be damned if he'll run mine" after "He can't even run his own life...."(it was cut at that point to) "Sunshine!!!!!" "Just You And Me" by Chicago.... Cut the beat and tempo and the word "Damn"... It came out one beat shy by going: "Loving you girl is so(cut)easy!!!"....."Kodachrome" by Paul Simon had the same thing with: "When I think back on all (cut, 'the crap) I learned in high school"..... The only edit that I give credit for was when KXOK in St. Louis took Stealy Dan's "FM" (from the soundtrack) and spliced out the "F" of "FM" and put in the "Aaaae" from the song "Aja"......."No static at all (no static at all...)...AeeeeEmmmm"! It sounded great on the old Six-Three-Oh!
"Sunshine" by Jonathan Edwards (Cut from the 2:02 single and lasted about 1:28) They cut out "I'll be damned if he'll run mine" after "He can't even run his own life...."(it was cut at that point to) "Sunshine!!!!!" "Just You And Me" by Chicago.... Cut the beat and tempo and the word "Damn"... It came out one beat shy by going: "Loving you girl is so(cut)easy!!!"....."Kodachrome" by Paul Simon had the same thing with: "When I think back on all (cut, 'the crap) I learned in high school"..... The only edit that I give credit for was when KXOK in St. Louis took Stealy Dan's "FM" (from the soundtrack) and spliced out the "F" of "FM" and put in the "Aaaae" from the song "Aja"......."No static at all (no static at all...)...AeeeeEmmmm"! It sounded great on the old Six-Three-Oh!
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BenTehelenbach
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SPECIAL EDITS BY STATIONS: I've heard some B.S. edits of "Money" by Pink Floyd that sound like absolute train wrecks.
I heard one station completely drop the G.D. line from "Life in the Fast Lane" by the Eagles, so that it goes "You can hear the engine ring/He said Call the doctor..." Coulda just copied and pasted in "She pretended not to notice, she was caught up in the...," like some of the old tape syndicators did.
I heard one station completely drop the G.D. line from "Life in the Fast Lane" by the Eagles, so that it goes "You can hear the engine ring/He said Call the doctor..." Coulda just copied and pasted in "She pretended not to notice, she was caught up in the...," like some of the old tape syndicators did.
How true, there are some edits that stations have done themselves that should have never been aired, but there were some edits that were simply stellar. WNBC in New York had some as well as WABC. I'm going to have to dig through my old air checks to see if I can spot them again.
skippertthomas said:
Ugh. Is it safe to assume that this station was somewhere in the Bible belt?
Being a bit of a production geek, I've always admired smooth-sounding edits (and when I was a PD I used to air some custom edits myself), but a sloppy edit that sounds like the record skipping just makes your station sound bush-league.
Never heard that one, but I do recall a number of stations playing a similar-style edit of "Tonight's The Night" by Rod Stewart where the 'spread your wings..' line was replaced with another line in the song. It flowed musically, but lyrically it made no sense and still jumped out at you.
OldiesCat1 said:
Hello!
I was a die-hard Chicago fan in the early 70s, right up through their seventh album. I also thought at the time that the 45 edits were pretty awful, especially "Beginnings."
Now that enough years have passed, though, and I listen back to these things through different "ears," it strikes me that some of their material was pretty gratuitous. Why did we need such a long and pointless piano intro for "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?", for example? "Beginnings" is one of their best songs ever, but the extended percussion section and hooting and hollering at the end really didn't add anything. (Don't even get me started on "Free Form Guitar." What a waste of vinyl!)
I thought the "Make Me Smile" edit was the most sensible of them all. At least the beats matched at the edit points!! What was AM radio to do: play the whole "Ballet for A Girl In Buchannon" just to get at "Make Me Smile"? Hmm.
I have heard parts of the reissued "Carnegie Hall," and am very excited that they cleaned the audio up so well. But, the extra cuts are very lame, in my view.
After all these years, I now think that those who did the editing-down were really doing Chicago a favor! But, that's just my opinion.
Now, to switch gears: K-Tel was pretty good for unique edits! I know of at least three versions of "One Fine Morning" by Lighthouse. And I know of one long version and two different single edits of "Aquarius/Let The Sunshine In" by the Fifth Dimension. But then, who's counting?!
My two cents'..
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BenTehelenbach
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I just heard another bad bad-word edit: "Showbiz Kids," by Steely Dan (they don't give a f-) ...dropped the whole line, instead of replacing the offending word with an instrumental beat, like on the long-lost promo version. "Showbiz Kids" is one of those songs I thought I would never hear again on the radio, discussed elsewhere on these boards...
Tom Sheldon (Now in Mt.Vernon, IL at Wither's operations) did the best.. We'd played "Life In The Fast Lane for about three weeks on KGMO in Cape (Missouri Top-40) in early '77.... Then "Momma Ruth" heard the "G.D." and wanted us to pull it from the list.. It was already top 15 and going from moderate to hot rotation.. So, we ask her (GM-Ownwer) if we could edit it on reel and cart it up on the two-track.. She said, O.K... Tom dubbed it and it came out..."Been up and down this highway and havn't seen a 'Quack-Quack' thing!"... He found a DUCK CALL in the production desk and spliced the call in place of the "G.D.".....People would call asking where they could get the 'Quack-Quack' version.... Great memory from "Cape's No.#1 Music Station".... ;D
When the Clovers' "Love Potion #9" was placed in the soundtrack of the movie of that name, it was edited so that the final verse was a repeat of the third verse (about "kissing everything in sight", including the cop). That edit seems to have become the "standard" edit of LP#9.
Hopefully before I die I'll hear again (maybe more than once) the original final verse, which both Hollywood and the Searchers should have left alone...
"I had so much fun that I'm going back again
I wonder what'll happen with Love Potion #10
Love Potion #9..."
Charlie Adams actually played that original edit on WEEU-830 Reading PA on Valentines Day 2006.
ixnay
Hopefully before I die I'll hear again (maybe more than once) the original final verse, which both Hollywood and the Searchers should have left alone...
"I had so much fun that I'm going back again
I wonder what'll happen with Love Potion #10
Love Potion #9..."
Charlie Adams actually played that original edit on WEEU-830 Reading PA on Valentines Day 2006.
ixnay
ixnay said:When the Clovers' "Love Potion #9" was placed in the soundtrack of the movie of that name, it was edited so that the final verse was a repeat of the third verse (about "kissing everything in sight", including the cop). That edit seems to have become the "standard" edit of LP#9.
Hopefully before I die I'll hear again (maybe more than once) the original final verse, which both Hollywood and the Searchers should have left alone...
"I had so much fun that I'm going back again
I wonder what'll happen with Love Potion #10
Love Potion #9..."
Charlie Adams actually played that original edit on WEEU-830 Reading PA on Valentines Day 2006.
ixnay
That's odd. I'm in Binghamton, NY and all the oldies stations here, over the years, have played and still play the original edit with those last few lines intact. I don't think I've ever heard the song without them, except for the Searchers' version, which I really don't care for at all.
ixnay said:When the Clovers' "Love Potion #9" was placed in the soundtrack of the movie of that name, it was edited so that the final verse was a repeat of the third verse (about "kissing everything in sight", including the cop). That edit seems to have become the "standard" edit of LP#9.
Hopefully before I die I'll hear again (maybe more than once) the original final verse, which both Hollywood and the Searchers should have left alone...
"I had so much fun that I'm going back again
I wonder what'll happen with Love Potion #10
Love Potion #9..."
Charlie Adams actually played that original edit on WEEU-830 Reading PA on Valentines Day 2006.
ixnay
Funny...I thought I remembered hearing the "Love Potion #10" verse years ago as a kid, but until now I was convinced it was just my overactive young imagination.
My apologies for re-posting about a Kodachrome edit. I did not read the entire thread before leaping on to the keyboard.
No one has mentioned Ahab the Arab, shortie version, maybe there is a reason for that.
IMHO I kinda like the "original" radio versions, it's the ones "we grew up with", for better or worse.
No one has mentioned Ahab the Arab, shortie version, maybe there is a reason for that.
IMHO I kinda like the "original" radio versions, it's the ones "we grew up with", for better or worse.
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Are you sure it wasn't "THE CRAP"??
The rhythm and timing of the edit would have worked out much better that way. That's what I did at WIND, Chicago.
The rhythm and timing of the edit would have worked out much better that way. That's what I did at WIND, Chicago.
I can think of several..some were played on the Big 8 CKLW
SIGNS-Five Man Electrical Band(MGM-Lionel)
ARE YOU READY-Pacific Gas and Electric(CBS-Columbia)
FIRE-Pointer Sisters(WEA/Elektra-Planet)(quite annoying when you hear "you turn on CKLW" in place of "you turn on the radio")
TIMOTHY-The Buoys(Scepter)(somebody should have kept the Victrola wound up while the song was in its final verse!)
These song edits just threw you if you already had the 45RPM single..I loved CKLW but the Drake-authorized song edits sometimes turned me off and sometimes switched to WING
Still...
Sometimes WING did the same thing with:
GREEN EYED LADY-Sugarloaf(Liberty)(obviously they had the LP and tried to edit it down to 45RPM length)
SOONER OR LATER-The Grass Roots(ABC-Dunhill) ("W-I-N-G...sooner or later" intro really wasn't needed since they still used the WLS-styled PAMS jingles at the time)
FM(theme song)-Steely Dan(MCA) ("Funked Up" is NOT a dirty word!)
Sister station WCOL-AM in Columbus also edited out the word "crap" in:
KODACHROME-Paul Simon(CBS-Columbia)
Sometimes a complete lyric was editied out of a song as it contained the word "asses" (already bleeped out) on the 45 RPM version of:
UNEASY RIDER-Charlie Daniels (Buddah Group-Kama Sutra)
And practically every Top 40 station (WLS included)played the shorter version of:
MR. BOJANGLES-Nitty Gritty Dirt Band(Liberty)
(I liked that touching intro of the old man teaching his dog how to howl along to "The Old Rugged Cross" on his harmonica.)
So even the top rated contemporary hit stations had a few crappy edits as well.
I will be listening to WLS's "rewind" programming on Memorial Day..they might even let Uncle Lar play the short version of "Mr. Bojangles" that day!
SIGNS-Five Man Electrical Band(MGM-Lionel)
ARE YOU READY-Pacific Gas and Electric(CBS-Columbia)
FIRE-Pointer Sisters(WEA/Elektra-Planet)(quite annoying when you hear "you turn on CKLW" in place of "you turn on the radio")
TIMOTHY-The Buoys(Scepter)(somebody should have kept the Victrola wound up while the song was in its final verse!)
These song edits just threw you if you already had the 45RPM single..I loved CKLW but the Drake-authorized song edits sometimes turned me off and sometimes switched to WING
Still...
Sometimes WING did the same thing with:
GREEN EYED LADY-Sugarloaf(Liberty)(obviously they had the LP and tried to edit it down to 45RPM length)
SOONER OR LATER-The Grass Roots(ABC-Dunhill) ("W-I-N-G...sooner or later" intro really wasn't needed since they still used the WLS-styled PAMS jingles at the time)
FM(theme song)-Steely Dan(MCA) ("Funked Up" is NOT a dirty word!)
Sister station WCOL-AM in Columbus also edited out the word "crap" in:
KODACHROME-Paul Simon(CBS-Columbia)
Sometimes a complete lyric was editied out of a song as it contained the word "asses" (already bleeped out) on the 45 RPM version of:
UNEASY RIDER-Charlie Daniels (Buddah Group-Kama Sutra)
And practically every Top 40 station (WLS included)played the shorter version of:
MR. BOJANGLES-Nitty Gritty Dirt Band(Liberty)
(I liked that touching intro of the old man teaching his dog how to howl along to "The Old Rugged Cross" on his harmonica.)
So even the top rated contemporary hit stations had a few crappy edits as well.
I will be listening to WLS's "rewind" programming on Memorial Day..they might even let Uncle Lar play the short version of "Mr. Bojangles" that day!
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