Would a 2nd CHR work in New York City?

[radiolives]

CBS Radio just launched a CHR in Houston, TX. Yes I know Houston, TX isn't the same as NYC. But would a CHR like Hot Hits 95.7 where people vote for their hottest hits work in a city like New York? I think it might work well. And we all know where it would go on the dial at 92.3. But we couldn't call it Hot Hits 92.3, we could just call it Hits 92.3. Whats everyones opinion on a 2nd CHR?

 

[CHRles]

As much as I am enjoying the new Hot Hits 95.7 in Houston it's still no Z-100 WHTZ is one of the LEAST vulnerable CHRs you'll find anywhere. I mean, can you pinpoint any weaknesses that it may hold?

 

[sfradio]

I would say yes, Hey you have to remember, WNEW when they were stunting to become blink with a chr format, they were getting good ratings

 

[CHRles]

sfradio, was that sarcasm? Blink couldnt even get a 1 share in the ratings if I remember correctly.

 

[TonySantiago]

Actually CHRles the stunting was for a few months before the "Blink" launch, right after they dumped the "Hot Talk". It actually was pretty good. WNEW should have stuck with CHR as a format since Blink WAS a major disaster.

 

[eyg2181]

another top 40 would definitly work. especially since 100.3 doesnt have a very good signal in the southern direction

 

[neo11]

Z100 is a very good station, but it's been without competition for a very long time. If two hip-hop or two AC stations can survive in this town, then a well-done CHR that takes on Z100 head-to-head would do well also. The question is, in today's radio environment, are any of the existing players willing to take on that investment? A serious competitor to Z100 would not be able to run on the cheap...they would need a major ad campaign, a full lineup of jocks, a high-profile morning show, contests, giveaways, etc. Who is willing to make that investment?

 

[kevinsealy]

WHTZ-100 is doing fine with their audience.

Another Top 40/CHR Hit Music station in New York would be stretching the landscape too thin. Therefore, the second station may do no better than a 2 share.




Thanks,
Kevin L. Sealy

 

[BJSteigner]

It would work if the CHR station was 50% Pop/50% Dance.

 

[TonySantiago]

It would work if the CHR station was 50% Pop/50% Dance.

I think it could work like that. It would have to be a hybrid of some of what Z-100 is playing right now along with some of what Pulse 87 is doing (but without the remixes). More like a Z-103.5 in Toronto, a dance friendly CHR station.

But...take all the time you need! I still love my Pulse 87!!

 

[eyg2181]

Krocks Not Going Anywhere

 

[nd2023]

We have a CHR, 2 urbans, 2 rock stations, and a CHR/dance station. Z100's being attacked from all angles, yet they still survive.
I wish that Z100 sounded more like 103.5 Kiss FM in Chicago and played less rock.

 

[Mid West Clubber]

Do what???? Why would you wanna take the hottest CHR in the U.S and turn it into another Rhythmic Wannabe..... You already have Hot and Power for Quality Hip Hop, so give me one reason why Z-100 shouldnt play all the hits like they do. CHR radio is supposed to play all thats hot, whether it be Rock/Rhythmic/POP, and in some cases a little Dance and Country.

I kinda like the idea of a second chr like Z-1035 Toronto, but I dont think it would work now that Pulse is in the picture. Besides that it would just dillute both station's to where no one had any numbers.

 

[mjb1124]

I would like to hear more rock on Z100, along with more dance and pure pop. But the current urban-leaning direction gets great ratings, so what do I know?

 

[Mid West Clubber]

Why change a great product that works.... Z-100 tried leaning on Modern Rock for a time during the 90s, and it didnt work. You wont see much dance on Z-100 either considering their sister station KTU is supposed to be a Dance station and even they abandoned all the currents..... Support Pulse 87 for Dance hits, and let Z-100 continue to be the legendary Mainstream CHR it was meant to be. BTW, Z-100 isnt really Urban leaning, they are pretty well balanced. It just seems like they play more urban probably because you guys dont like Urban music.

 

[lalumia]

if you look at Mediabase CHR, rock or rock influenced tracks are making a decidedly BIG comeback; you can expect to be hearing much more rock at CHR, especially as multi million selling video games like GUITAR HERO and ROCK BAND are making their way into milllions and millions of homes coast to coast, and suddenly,after a long absence, the kids want to be rock stars again

 

[CHRles]

I think lalumia brings up a great point that some of you may not be aware of.
And Clubber, +1 on both of your posts bro.
I guess some Top 40 fans in New York don't always realize just how good Z-100 is when compared to most CHRs. Don't get me wrong, there's some other great/well programmed CHRs across the country, but Z-100 is in some ways in a league of its own.
Chicago's 103.5 Kiss FM has been in a state of war with Chicago's heritage Rhythmic, B-96, for years now. As a result, Kiss FM which is supposed to be the market's CHR/Pop station oftentimes sounds like a Rhythmic. Conversely, B-96 leans CHR/Pop for a Rhythmic station, at times more mainstream sounding then Kiss. B-96 is actually much more supportive of "Love Song" by Sara Bareilles then Kiss, and played some Daughtry records when Kiss didn't. Oh yeah, and neither station has shown its been able to dominate in the ratings the same way Z-100 does.

 

[neo11]

We have a CHR, 2 urbans, 2 rock stations, and a CHR/dance station. Z100's being attacked from all angles, yet they still survive.
I wish that Z100 sounded more like 103.5 Kiss FM in Chicago and played less rock.

Z100 is not being attacked directly. The two urbans, the two rock stations, etc. are competing directly against each other. KTU is not a direct competitor to Z100, in part due to co-ownership...sure KTU plays a few pop/dance hits, but with the heavy dose of 70s disco and 80s pop and new wave, they can hardly be considered a competitor.

We're talking about a straight-up CHR. There hasn't been anyone that has done so and taken on Z100 in close to two decades.

 

[Mid West Clubber]

We're talking about a straight-up CHR. There hasn't been anyone that has done so and taken on Z100 in close to two decades.
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Ever think there might be a reason for that....

 

[Mid West Clubber]

We're talking about a straight-up CHR. There hasn't been anyone that has done so and taken on Z100 in close to two decades.
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Ever think there might be a reason for that.... Would you want to invest your life savings into a radio station to try and compete with the Flag Ship CHR radio in the number one radio market in the U.S... I dont think I would..