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would a fm news talk work here??
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why not? My thought, I would say it'd work, weather or not it's Talk Radio for women or man. There used to be, about four years ago a Syndicated Woman Talk Radio Network, I forgot the name of it, it only had 6am-9, 9am-noon, noon-3, and 3pm-6pm. It didn't last long. I listened one time, it sounded ok. It wasn't for me (Man) but it was ok. One of the woman host was African American, I forgot her name. I have it on the tip of my tounge.
Anyways
They don't know if they don't try. I would say yes. But Radio Program Management Personel knows what they want, not me.
Anyways
They don't know if they don't try. I would say yes. But Radio Program Management Personel knows what they want, not me.
The syndication service/network ran here on WNSH 1570 and also up in Burlington VT on a daytime only station, AM 1070 which called itself Eve 1070. The VT station had Stephanie Miller (Dial Global), a holdover from when they were an Air America-type lefty political outlet. Typing "Fybush women's talk WNSH" into Yahoo got my this Globe article from 2006...the network was GreenStone.
http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2006/10/19/greenstone_aims_to_give_women_different_voices/
Whether an effort like that would be a success who knows, and we may well find out how well the Chicago station does.
Now when you say News Talk do you mean:
--A mostly all news station with some talk at night, like WBZ? If so, you will have stiff
competition here in Boston. A city like NY can support both WCBS and WINS but who knows.
or
--A talk station focused mostly on news/politics?
Ideally if Greater would want to sell, say, WTKK, perhaps Entercom would like to buy it
(they would still be in the 5 FMs limit: WMKK, WTKK, WKAF, WAAF). A solid signal at 96.9
would be great for a WEEI simulcast or move. But would Greater want to sell to a big
competitor like Entercom? And I would think Ent. would rather move/simulcast WEEI rather
than WRKO.
Talk radio geared toward men has allegedly been tried before; I think Pittsburgh had "the Man Station" at 93.7...didn't last too long. They had local hosts plus the syndicated Dennis
Miller (a Pitt.-area native, actually)
http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2006/10/19/greenstone_aims_to_give_women_different_voices/
Whether an effort like that would be a success who knows, and we may well find out how well the Chicago station does.
Now when you say News Talk do you mean:
--A mostly all news station with some talk at night, like WBZ? If so, you will have stiff
competition here in Boston. A city like NY can support both WCBS and WINS but who knows.
or
--A talk station focused mostly on news/politics?
Ideally if Greater would want to sell, say, WTKK, perhaps Entercom would like to buy it
(they would still be in the 5 FMs limit: WMKK, WTKK, WKAF, WAAF). A solid signal at 96.9
would be great for a WEEI simulcast or move. But would Greater want to sell to a big
competitor like Entercom? And I would think Ent. would rather move/simulcast WEEI rather
than WRKO.
Talk radio geared toward men has allegedly been tried before; I think Pittsburgh had "the Man Station" at 93.7...didn't last too long. They had local hosts plus the syndicated Dennis
Miller (a Pitt.-area native, actually)
YES YES YES, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS, THANK YOU!!!!
Do you all think? What do you all think? In Chicago, their Fresh station, wasn't that through CBS Radio? It's simular to Mix 104.1
Now, do you all think they might blow up Mix 104.1? like they did with Fresh in Chicago? What do you all think?
Mix 104.1 is one of the few stations I listen to on my free time. Not all the time. But it's one of them that I like.
I've listenned to Stephanie Miller show (The delay version) on 1510am. It's supposed to be on live weekdays ??? 9am-Noon est time.
There's also "Bev Smith Show" (AURN.COM) 7pm-10pmEST These two shows could work out?
That other one that Raccoonradio helped me with (Greenstone) was ok when they were on.
Now, do you all think they might blow up Mix 104.1? like they did with Fresh in Chicago? What do you all think?
Mix 104.1 is one of the few stations I listen to on my free time. Not all the time. But it's one of them that I like.
I've listenned to Stephanie Miller show (The delay version) on 1510am. It's supposed to be on live weekdays ??? 9am-Noon est time.
There's also "Bev Smith Show" (AURN.COM) 7pm-10pmEST These two shows could work out?
That other one that Raccoonradio helped me with (Greenstone) was ok when they were on.
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BoscoGoldBear
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My prediction: CBS brings WBZ Newsradio 1030 to the FM doing lowest among mainstream-aged adults (30 to 49; young stay-at-home-loser adults being under 30 and the elderly being 50+) by this time next year. I suspect that Mix does worst among the FMs in the money demo, but it could be ODS next year being Newsradio 1030 on FM.
As for EEI, after that last pathetic performance against its 3 classic rock rivals (namely WODS, WROR and WZLX), 93-7 Mike FM will flip to WEEI sports while EEI will go "national" - ESPN Radio, that is.
BTW, has anyone noticed that most of the FM stations flipping from music to talk (Chi-town Fresh, WWFS, WRXP, WKQX) just happen to have a heavy dose of U2 in their music libraries, plus Bono was the loudest among those demanding that radio station owners double or triple their rights' fee for the privilege of playing his and U2's music? Plus both Mix and Mike (my personal guesses as to which stations die) play a bleepload of U2. Bottom line: it's going to suck to be Bono over the next year or so!
As for EEI, after that last pathetic performance against its 3 classic rock rivals (namely WODS, WROR and WZLX), 93-7 Mike FM will flip to WEEI sports while EEI will go "national" - ESPN Radio, that is.
BTW, has anyone noticed that most of the FM stations flipping from music to talk (Chi-town Fresh, WWFS, WRXP, WKQX) just happen to have a heavy dose of U2 in their music libraries, plus Bono was the loudest among those demanding that radio station owners double or triple their rights' fee for the privilege of playing his and U2's music? Plus both Mix and Mike (my personal guesses as to which stations die) play a bleepload of U2. Bottom line: it's going to suck to be Bono over the next year or so!
Steve N. said:
Not sure I get what you're saying here. WODS moves to 104.1 and WBZ NewsRadio simulcast at 103.3?
News/Talk radio for women has tried and failed. This is not a format that appeals to the vast majority of women.
Yes and we have WEEI allegedly on WMKK's HD, and WXKS-AM on Kiss 108's HD.
But HD is HD, and more people own turntables that can play 78s than own HD radios
(or want them, despite radio geeks like me who bought one out of curiosity).
But HD is HD, and more people own turntables that can play 78s than own HD radios
(or want them, despite radio geeks like me who bought one out of curiosity).
In the words of an absolutely brilliant consultant "talk" is no more a format than "music."
I have often wondered why nobody in this market has ever tried what WKXW does in Trenton, or what WFLA did in Tampa under Jacor and Randy Michaels (WRKO's biggest mistake was not hiring Bob Lassiter when Burns left, as it led to the Leykis and the station never recovered. But at then Lassiter died 16 years later so what the heck)
I have often wondered why nobody in this market has ever tried what WKXW does in Trenton, or what WFLA did in Tampa under Jacor and Randy Michaels (WRKO's biggest mistake was not hiring Bob Lassiter when Burns left, as it led to the Leykis and the station never recovered. But at then Lassiter died 16 years later so what the heck)
mgpt6 said:
IMHO, it's very hard to listen to WBZ/1030 with that constant whine from the IBOC subcarriers mixing with the analog component. They seriously should dump the IBOC. Get rid of the brickwall filter and return to full quality 10 kHz bandwidth with C-QUAM. But, it ain't gonna happen. CBS is one of the people supported Ibiquity for IBOC from the get-go. AM was never meant to handle IBOC, period.
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fmradio1
Guest
Boy, where to start...
I'm sure if CBS had a struggling FM signal, they would have put WBZ on it by now (not counting HD2's here.) Stations like WZLX and WODS have found new life in the PPM world. The Sports Hub is taking off like a rocket. And while Mix has the lowest 6+ number, they do well in their target demos, and have a large cume, which is good for a contemporary based music format. In fact, historically has had one of the highest power ratios (billings in comparison with overall ratings) in the market. All of their stations are doing well. Which one would you sacrifice?
If it were me, if I HAD to whack one it would be...WZLX. Tired old jocks. Tired old music. Aging demos. Weak morning show. WODS has skewed younger in the past year and it seems to be paying dividends. Plus, 103.3 has the lucrative Christmas station franchise. The other two stations are doing extremely well in the demos that matter. WZLX still has some life left, but long term it's on life support...
I'm sure if CBS had a struggling FM signal, they would have put WBZ on it by now (not counting HD2's here.) Stations like WZLX and WODS have found new life in the PPM world. The Sports Hub is taking off like a rocket. And while Mix has the lowest 6+ number, they do well in their target demos, and have a large cume, which is good for a contemporary based music format. In fact, historically has had one of the highest power ratios (billings in comparison with overall ratings) in the market. All of their stations are doing well. Which one would you sacrifice?
If it were me, if I HAD to whack one it would be...WZLX. Tired old jocks. Tired old music. Aging demos. Weak morning show. WODS has skewed younger in the past year and it seems to be paying dividends. Plus, 103.3 has the lucrative Christmas station franchise. The other two stations are doing extremely well in the demos that matter. WZLX still has some life left, but long term it's on life support...
First of all, I wouldn't "whack" any of the Boston CBS FM's and replace it with WBZ AM, not unless it's with just the news day part, then go to music at night.
I disagree with your assessment of ZLX, it's the best sounding classic rock station anywhere. They play deeper cuts all the time without having to relegate to some stupid time slot on Sunday night . Who are those sleepy jocks that you speak of? I wouldn't call any of them sleepy old jocks. Or would you rather listen to pukers all day on top 40, or classic hits?
If it were me, if I HAD to whack one it would be...WZLX. Tired old jocks. Tired old music. Aging demos. Weak morning show. WODS has skewed younger in the past year and it seems to be paying dividends. Plus, 103.3 has the lucrative Christmas station franchise. The other two stations are doing extremely well in the demos that matter. WZLX still has some life left, but long term it's on life support...
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I disagree with your assessment of ZLX, it's the best sounding classic rock station anywhere. They play deeper cuts all the time without having to relegate to some stupid time slot on Sunday night . Who are those sleepy jocks that you speak of? I wouldn't call any of them sleepy old jocks. Or would you rather listen to pukers all day on top 40, or classic hits?
If it were me, if I HAD to whack one it would be...WZLX. Tired old jocks. Tired old music. Aging demos. Weak morning show. WODS has skewed younger in the past year and it seems to be paying dividends. Plus, 103.3 has the lucrative Christmas station franchise. The other two stations are doing extremely well in the demos that matter. WZLX still has some life left, but long term it's on life support...
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I would think classic rock would do well, if not in ratings then in billing--with the remnants of the baby boomers still enjoying that type of music, all over the country. A desirable demo. But who knows.
There already is quite a bit of news/talk on FM already btw--WGBH and WBUR. In fact I think they probably do well, but maybe we're talking _commercial_ stations here. And WTKK has talk but they're struggling and has been said before maybe they're hoping to catch Howie when his contract ends in about a year (despite what one exec at Greater said about not wanting him). He still get half decent ratings and billing and really, whom would WTKK want in pm drive, Carr or Meehan? Even if supposedly the talk demo is aging...btw Howie was heard yesterday again again expressing his wish to move to FM, as he did his show from WXTK in advance of an appearance down there. "I'm on WXTK, which is FM...this new band, perhaps you've heard of it. No static. No having to turn down the power at sunset..." and he went on to express a desire to maybe get to FM someday.
There already is quite a bit of news/talk on FM already btw--WGBH and WBUR. In fact I think they probably do well, but maybe we're talking _commercial_ stations here. And WTKK has talk but they're struggling and has been said before maybe they're hoping to catch Howie when his contract ends in about a year (despite what one exec at Greater said about not wanting him). He still get half decent ratings and billing and really, whom would WTKK want in pm drive, Carr or Meehan? Even if supposedly the talk demo is aging...btw Howie was heard yesterday again again expressing his wish to move to FM, as he did his show from WXTK in advance of an appearance down there. "I'm on WXTK, which is FM...this new band, perhaps you've heard of it. No static. No having to turn down the power at sunset..." and he went on to express a desire to maybe get to FM someday.
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