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would two variety hits station work in boston???

was wondering if possibly a war between mike fm and jack fm whic means cbs would have to flip wbmx or another one of thier stations. would it work and is it done anywhere else any thought?? ???
 
bostonradioguy2009 said:
was wondering if possibly a war between mike fm and jack fm whic means cbs would have to flip wbmx or another one of thier stations. would it work and is it done anywhere else any thought?? ???

I doubt there's enough audience to support two similar Adult/Variety Hits stations here. I don't know if it's being done, and how successfully, in any other markets. I'd think that if CBS Boston thought that going up directly against WMKK with a "Jack" format would be more successful than any of the formats that they're currently running, they would've already done it.

Rumor was that a few years ago, CBS was about to flip WBMX to a "Jack" format but "Mike" beat them to it, and they decided that WBMX would do better continuing as it was rather than competing with them.
 
Right after Mike FM launched, I would say there would have been a slight chance for a "Jack FM" clone to take on WMKK. That was because, at launch, Mike played a lot of rhythmic oldies and other odd tracks clearly intended to appease WQSX listeners. Since then, WMKK has turned into a very straight forward adult hits station that doesn't really seem to warrant competition.

I had heard varying stories about where Jack FM was going. I'd heard from one person in-the-know that WBMX was to become Jack FM. However, I later heard from someone much closer to the situation that the station to be blown up was actually WODS. At the time, WODS had just begun their all-Christmas routine, and numbers weren't bad but they were not as strong as they are right now. I assume somewhere in the old TV38 building, there must be a reel of snarkish promos for the never-launched "103.3 Jack FM".

I'd hedge my bets on 104.1 AMP RADIO as CBS Radio's next Boston move.
 
How about a variety hits OLDIES station? Something that would play a wider variety of oldies,
from say late 50s to mid 80s--including the lesser heard songs that WODS will only play during
Lost 45s, etc.

But it would have to do battle with WODS and WROR, etc,
 
I think that it would work, it don't have to be two (Jack FM, Sam FM etc) I think it would work.


There are a lot of great programming out there as well as a lot of music out there that not many radio stations play anymore.


But as some of you said MIKE FM is doing great for themselves.
 
Why stop there?

I would go from the late 50s all the way to the present. :D

Today's hits in lighter rotation and six SEVEN decades of classics.
 
raccoonradio said:
How about a variety hits OLDIES station? Something that would play a wider variety of oldies,
from say late 50s to mid 80s--including the lesser heard songs that WODS will only play during
Lost 45s, etc.

But it would have to do battle with WODS and WROR, etc,

Or WODS itself could just take that approach. That's not too far off from what their sister station WCBS-FM does, and it's worked for them.
 
mjb1124 said:
raccoonradio said:
How about a variety hits OLDIES station? Something that would play a wider variety of oldies,
from say late 50s to mid 80s--including the lesser heard songs that WODS will only play during
Lost 45s, etc.

But it would have to do battle with WODS and WROR, etc,

Or WODS itself could just take that approach. That's not too far off from what their sister station WCBS-FM does, and it's worked for them.

I've said, all along, that WODS should take the "WCBS-FM approach" and mix in some of older material (pre-1964) once or twice an hour. This way, younger people can be introduced to some the older material. Ah, yes.... I know..... (blah, blah, blah) "the demographics" are WAY toooooo old (according to the Madison Avenue execs). IMHO, WODS has become a bit stale over the past few years by ignoring all of the pre-1964 material completely. When I hear a station calling themselves "Oldies", you'd expect music from 1954 through the very early 1980's. But playing the same 300+ time-tested tunes is too safe for my liking. After all, rock and roll did not begin with The Beatles or the British Invasion. Unlike what "Mr. Eduardo" might say, there's nothing wrong for mixing up some really upbeat popular pre-1964 tunes from Lesley Gore, Chubby Checker, early Motown, the girl groups, Elvis and such that could put some life into an otherwise too "safe" playlist. I was a big fan of WODS right since they went oldies back in the fall of 1987 (I was one of the first listeners). I was 27 at the time and thought I had just "gone to heaven". It was that good! I thought, "hey, this is great stuff, just as good as 'CBS-FM (which it was...)"! A good amount of the songs were recorded before I was born in 1960. I continued to enjoy WODS up until the time they got rid of a lot of the specialty shows like "Little Walter's Time Machine", "Backseat Memories" and some of the personalities that really brightened up the workday. I'll admit, I love "American Top 40: The Seventies". My radio hero, the late Bob "Wolfman Jack" Smith sounds great on 'ODS. But I'll also admit, I'm not a big fan of "The Lost 45's". It's too kitschy for me.

I find myself listening to 'CBS-FM (on-line) more times than I listen to 'ODS. In the car, I listen to the "Decades" streams on Sirius/XM. I've even taken a liking to the 40's channel ("40's on 4"). I absolutely love "Radio Classics" on Sirius/XM 118.

I find a lot of the college students I deal with (who have Sirius or XM radios) have "presets" on their receivers for all the "Decades" channels, as well as the more modern material such as hip-hop, rap, techno (which actually I like on occasion).

I'll betcha', if 'ODS sprinkles in some of the older (pre-'64) say... once or twice an hour and opened up the playlist a bit, they might see a lot of people (younger and older) might take the time to stay with 103.3. I'll be honest, ever since they did the deluge of Christmas over the past few years, they've not been a preset in my car for quite a while.

That's my opinion, how 'bout yours?
 
encarta95 said:
I'd hedge my bets on 104.1 AMP RADIO as CBS Radio's next Boston move.

That might not be a bad idea. More urban then WXKS but less hip hop them WJMN
I would keep the legacy call letters and calll it the NEW WBCN!
 
That might not be a bad idea. More urban then WXKS but less hip hop them WJMN
I would keep the legacy call letters and calll it the NEW WBCN!

Amp ain't coming to Boston, but some version of variety will. PPM says so.
 
Peter Q. George (K1XRB) said:
mjb1124 said:
raccoonradio said:
How about a variety hits OLDIES station? Something that would play a wider variety of oldies,
from say late 50s to mid 80s--including the lesser heard songs that WODS will only play during
Lost 45s, etc.

But it would have to do battle with WODS and WROR, etc,

Or WODS itself could just take that approach. That's not too far off from what their sister station WCBS-FM does, and it's worked for them.

I've said, all along, that WODS should take the "WCBS-FM approach" and mix in some of older material (pre-1964) once or twice an hour. This way, younger people can be introduced to some the older material. Ah, yes.... I know..... (blah, blah, blah) "the demographics" are WAY toooooo old (according to the Madison Avenue execs). IMHO, WODS has become a bit stale over the past few years by ignoring all of the pre-1964 material completely. When I hear a station calling themselves "Oldies", you'd expect music from 1954 through the very early 1980's. But playing the same 300+ time-tested tunes is too safe for my liking. After all, rock and roll did not begin with The Beatles or the British Invasion. Unlike what "Mr. Eduardo" might say, there's nothing wrong for mixing up some really upbeat popular pre-1964 tunes from Lesley Gore, Chubby Checker, early Motown, the girl groups, Elvis and such that could put some life into an otherwise too "safe" playlist. I was a big fan of WODS right since they went oldies back in the fall of 1987 (I was one of the first listeners). I was 27 at the time and thought I had just "gone to heaven". It was that good! I thought, "hey, this is great stuff, just as good as 'CBS-FM (which it was...)"! A good amount of the songs were recorded before I was born in 1960. I continued to enjoy WODS up until the time they got rid of a lot of the specialty shows like "Little Walter's Time Machine", "Backseat Memories" and some of the personalities that really brightened up the workday. I'll admit, I love "American Top 40: The Seventies". My radio hero, the late Bob "Wolfman Jack" Smith sounds great on 'ODS. But I'll also admit, I'm not a big fan of "The Lost 45's". It's too kitschy for me.

I find myself listening to 'CBS-FM (on-line) more times than I listen to 'ODS. In the car, I listen to the "Decades" streams on Sirius/XM. I've even taken a liking to the 40's channel ("40's on 4"). I absolutely love "Radio Classics" on Sirius/XM 118.

I find a lot of the college students I deal with (who have Sirius or XM radios) have "presets" on their receivers for all the "Decades" channels, as well as the more modern material such as hip-hop, rap, techno (which actually I like on occasion).

I'll betcha', if 'ODS sprinkles in some of the older (pre-'64) say... once or twice an hour and opened up the playlist a bit, they might see a lot of people (younger and older) might take the time to stay with 103.3. I'll be honest, ever since they did the deluge of Christmas over the past few years, they've not been a preset in my car for quite a while.

That's my opinion, how 'bout yours?

Well, I am out of the demographic (33-male), but I LOVE CBS-FM. they sound great with the oldies of the '60's and '70's and then they throw in some '80's tracks along with the pre-'64's. I love it.
 
something tells me they could try jack u here but with an edger playlist from a marketing point of view 98.5 jack fm doesnt really have a ring to it they could swap with 104.1 and put jack there and move wbcn to 98.5, so we would have 104.1 jack fm playing what we want !!!!
 
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