Interesting that KRBZ/Kansas City 96.5 The Buzz (a great alt. rocker that only in recent months decided to 'rock out' with artists such as SOAD/Soundgarden/etc. as before they were more of a softer modern rock station) is including dubstep in its imaging but not in its playlist.
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Would you accept dubstep on an alternative station?
- Thread starter TonySantiago
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apologies for my previous post, which would seem to be the epitome of "gross over-generalization". I am fairly ignorant when it comes to dubstep (and the racial make up of those performing it). My point was that there is plenty of music made by rhythmic-based artists (and I am avoiding the terms "hip-hop" and "rap" here) regardless of ethnicity,that would be well suited for airplay on alternative rock stations. For example: the music of Janelle Monae, whose music is rooted in many genres simultaneously, but is too "alternative" for CHR/mainstream hip hop stations and too ...erm, "hip hop" for alternative rock stations. Where is she, and other genre-fusing such artists, to be heard?
Of course I would accept dubstep. I would accept Janelle Monae too.
Alternative radio's glory days, for me, were in the mid to late 90s (Pre-NuMetal focus) when it mixed grunge/post-grunge, pop rock, lillith fair, britrock, punk/pop punk, west coast indie-pop, electronica, and even occasional hip-hop all together forming like a parallel universe version of Top 40 radio. It was never perfect, as it was usually grounded by the latest post-grunge band (Matchbox, Tonic, Fuel, Bush, STP, Candlebox, etc) but it was always a fun listen. The imaging was always fun too... It felt more like a self-deprecating amusement park than a self-righteous music hipster.
Alternative radio's glory days, for me, were in the mid to late 90s (Pre-NuMetal focus) when it mixed grunge/post-grunge, pop rock, lillith fair, britrock, punk/pop punk, west coast indie-pop, electronica, and even occasional hip-hop all together forming like a parallel universe version of Top 40 radio. It was never perfect, as it was usually grounded by the latest post-grunge band (Matchbox, Tonic, Fuel, Bush, STP, Candlebox, etc) but it was always a fun listen. The imaging was always fun too... It felt more like a self-deprecating amusement park than a self-righteous music hipster.
..which leads me to this logical razor:
Alternative radio I like includes anything that confidently pushes the envelope of any genre. If it sets that genre in a new light, I'm game for playing it, and if it comes to define that genre I have no problem continuing to embrace it (though I draw the line at johnny-come-latelies...see below.)
Alternative radio I don't like includes anyone for whom "alternative" became a way to make more money because their effort in some previous genre didn't pan out. Most (but not all) 90's grunge falls into this category, as a lot of them were staffed by the members of failed hair metal bands. (So if you "go alternative" because a few legitimately alternative records have caught fire, you're out. If you "go alternative" when alternative isn't really a market factor, you're more likey to be "in".)
Ancillary to both statements above: The fact that I've played a grunge record should not under any circumstance imply that I will play all grunge records, ditto dubstep, ditto hip hop, ditto grebo, ditto electronica, ditto psychedelia, ditto industrial, ditto post-punk, ditto hardcore, ditto anything.
I do what I do at Altrok 90.5 HD2; you're invited to listen.
Alternative radio I like includes anything that confidently pushes the envelope of any genre. If it sets that genre in a new light, I'm game for playing it, and if it comes to define that genre I have no problem continuing to embrace it (though I draw the line at johnny-come-latelies...see below.)
Alternative radio I don't like includes anyone for whom "alternative" became a way to make more money because their effort in some previous genre didn't pan out. Most (but not all) 90's grunge falls into this category, as a lot of them were staffed by the members of failed hair metal bands. (So if you "go alternative" because a few legitimately alternative records have caught fire, you're out. If you "go alternative" when alternative isn't really a market factor, you're more likey to be "in".)
Ancillary to both statements above: The fact that I've played a grunge record should not under any circumstance imply that I will play all grunge records, ditto dubstep, ditto hip hop, ditto grebo, ditto electronica, ditto psychedelia, ditto industrial, ditto post-punk, ditto hardcore, ditto anything.
I do what I do at Altrok 90.5 HD2; you're invited to listen.
Dave Plantz said:
You nailed it. Not to mention the format at that point in time played a very sizable amount of female artists and bands. It was 'all inclusive'. The nu-metal phase seemingly took away all of that creativity and turned the format into a 1-trick-pony. Over the last few years the format has of course been focused on the softer indie folk type stuff. Put another way, they used to serve up a wide menu of items, now it's just hamburgers. The toppings on the hamburgers change every few years (nu metal for a few years, feminine male bands for a few years, etc.) but that's all you get, burgers or nothing.
Definitely. It's kinda like the Nu-Metal from the 00s with the Rap-Rock of Linkin Park
Personally, I can't stand dubstep. It just annoys me. BUT, I'm a recent college grad and a lot of people I hung out with in college were into dubstep, so I'd say it is getting popular. However, everyone I know who is into dubstep is also not into FM radio, so I'm not sure that it would draw too many people to alternative radio.
XCountry285 said:
It's absolutely nothing like Nu-metal.
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chrocket87 said:
This.
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GREAT piece here on the EDM now being played at Live 105:
http://www.radio-info.com/programming/programming-music/fresh-listen-kits-live-105-san-francisco
http://www.radio-info.com/programming/programming-music/fresh-listen-kits-live-105-san-francisco
More EDM on alt radio: There is a new 1-hour electro specialty show on KSLG/Eureka Friday nights at 9PST.
The electro trend at Live 105 appears to be working: From January to March, the 6+ share is up 20%, from 2.0 to 2.4 and cume is up 12%, from 641,000 to 721,000. IIRC prior to this year the ratings were in the 1s. The station is sounding better than it has in the last 15 years with exceptional imaging and an all around tight sound.
Let's see if other alt. stations around the country follow suit with a similar sound.
I've always felt that EDM and alt. is a good fit and it is great to hear the two genres on this legendary station.
Let's see if other alt. stations around the country follow suit with a similar sound.
I've always felt that EDM and alt. is a good fit and it is great to hear the two genres on this legendary station.
On the topic of electro on alt. stations, there is a cool electronic show on 101X/Austin called Hypersonic Radio. Hypersonic Radio itself also has a 24/7 web stream. Search for it on your smartphone's radio app it's good stuff.
Saladressing said:
Sadly, this one didn't last on Live 105 too long. But I'm pleasantly surprised at how long they held onto Avicii's "Levels" & especially Example's "Changed the Way You Kissed Me."
puddingpop said:
I wish that were true. But they destroyed 'BCN, made KROQ all but unlistenable, and nearly did the same thing with Live 105. Live's renaissance of sorts is a very welcome surprise. Hopefully it does well and shows CBS that they can let their other alt. stations be awesome.
Alternative station WPGU 107.1 FM in Urbana-Champaign just started a dubstep show on Friday nights at 9..."The Bassment." It's being pulled off real well I think. It sure is alternative, so why not?
http://wpgu.com
http://wpgu.com
KROQ debuted a show called Roq n Beats this past Saturday from 10pm to midnight. It sounded like they would cover dubstep and other electro, but I didn't get a chance to tune in. Did anyone hear it?
Radical348 said:
Well, what I really meant to point out was that CBS allows its alternative stations to program the music as they see fit, with no directives from above, allowing each station to have its own personality (Live 105 leans more dance, X107.5 leans more rock, HFS leans more classic, etc.)...but in the process, allowing them to sink or swim on their own merits. I'll agree, though, that WBCN's fate was tragic and sad (although the death of WFNX was even sadder to me).
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