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mike704
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> This whole page is now about an AM station playing music in
> 2006! Way to go oldies fans!!!
> ps. I'm just joking with you so don't get all huffy!
>
Kinda shows you who cares about radio doesn't it? We grew up with the medium we are not the MTV generation. My daughters ages 17 and 24 hardly ever listen to the radio.
MikeM
> 2006! Way to go oldies fans!!!
> ps. I'm just joking with you so don't get all huffy!
>
Kinda shows you who cares about radio doesn't it? We grew up with the medium we are not the MTV generation. My daughters ages 17 and 24 hardly ever listen to the radio.
MikeM
Good point.
> Kinda shows you who cares about radio doesn't it? We grew
> up with the medium we are not the MTV generation.
My feelings exactly. Notice how little you see the younger-skewing FM music stations discussed on these boards. It's because no one cares. And the kids are listening to iPods and CDs. There are no great personalities outside of the syndicated morning shows (that is if you call some of these uncreative morons great). Everyone is VTed. There's no Roy Cooper or Mark Sebastian in afternoon drive. How can new, young listeners relate to someone who's VTed from out of town?
It is we baby boomers who remember what radio used to be like. We know how special it can be. And maybe that's why it is the oldies stations that tend to light up this board the most.
I've been following these threads and reserving comment until the new WDJO really gets going. Right now it's just a jukebox. I can get great oldies in a fun, retro-style presentation on XM's 60's ON 6. But if WDJO does it local, makes it fun, and brings back some of the true personalities that made this music and this format great here in the Queen City, I'll listen. Can they make it work financially? I don't know. But in this day of stale, corporate radio, I must say that I admire a bunch of old radio guys who have a passion for the music and format and are willing to give it a shot. Good luck, guys!
> Kinda shows you who cares about radio doesn't it? We grew
> up with the medium we are not the MTV generation.
My feelings exactly. Notice how little you see the younger-skewing FM music stations discussed on these boards. It's because no one cares. And the kids are listening to iPods and CDs. There are no great personalities outside of the syndicated morning shows (that is if you call some of these uncreative morons great). Everyone is VTed. There's no Roy Cooper or Mark Sebastian in afternoon drive. How can new, young listeners relate to someone who's VTed from out of town?
It is we baby boomers who remember what radio used to be like. We know how special it can be. And maybe that's why it is the oldies stations that tend to light up this board the most.
I've been following these threads and reserving comment until the new WDJO really gets going. Right now it's just a jukebox. I can get great oldies in a fun, retro-style presentation on XM's 60's ON 6. But if WDJO does it local, makes it fun, and brings back some of the true personalities that made this music and this format great here in the Queen City, I'll listen. Can they make it work financially? I don't know. But in this day of stale, corporate radio, I must say that I admire a bunch of old radio guys who have a passion for the music and format and are willing to give it a shot. Good luck, guys!
Come on Keys. Not everyone is VTed
The VTed stations are actually just a few: MIX, FOX, and KISS....and KISS may be live for part of the day, and Garry Jeff is live on The FOX.
Other stations use VT, but not totally. There are live and local morning shows and jocks on WMOJ, WYGY, WRRM, WKRQ, WEBN, WGRR, AND WUBE. After syndicated morning shows, jocks are live on WAQZ and WIZF. That's not too bad. Most of these stations weren't even factors back in the 80s heyday of Q102 or in the 50s-70s. More choices, more diverse programming, and more fragmentation. That's part of the reason we don't have any big names anymore. No one station has the critical mass of people to make them a big name anymore. We'll never see another Q102. There's just too much choice now.
The VTed stations are actually just a few: MIX, FOX, and KISS....and KISS may be live for part of the day, and Garry Jeff is live on The FOX.
Other stations use VT, but not totally. There are live and local morning shows and jocks on WMOJ, WYGY, WRRM, WKRQ, WEBN, WGRR, AND WUBE. After syndicated morning shows, jocks are live on WAQZ and WIZF. That's not too bad. Most of these stations weren't even factors back in the 80s heyday of Q102 or in the 50s-70s. More choices, more diverse programming, and more fragmentation. That's part of the reason we don't have any big names anymore. No one station has the critical mass of people to make them a big name anymore. We'll never see another Q102. There's just too much choice now.
Come on Oscar ;-)
OK, perhaps I exaggerated a bit. But your conclusion is still the same as mine. There aren't any big names anymore. I can't tell you when either of my teenagers has ever referred to a single jock on any of the stations they (rarely) listen to. They couldn't name one. There's nothing on the radio for them to be passionate about.
But that was only a secondary point to support my main point, which was to agree with the previous poster that it is the oldies-loving crowd that seems more passionate about radio. And I stated why I believe this to be so.
Note too that I was echoing some of your thoughts from your "brutal" thread below. I pretty much agree with everything you said in that post. Very well articulated.
OK, perhaps I exaggerated a bit. But your conclusion is still the same as mine. There aren't any big names anymore. I can't tell you when either of my teenagers has ever referred to a single jock on any of the stations they (rarely) listen to. They couldn't name one. There's nothing on the radio for them to be passionate about.
But that was only a secondary point to support my main point, which was to agree with the previous poster that it is the oldies-loving crowd that seems more passionate about radio. And I stated why I believe this to be so.
Note too that I was echoing some of your thoughts from your "brutal" thread below. I pretty much agree with everything you said in that post. Very well articulated.
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mike704
Guest
Re: Come on Oscar ;-)
> OK, perhaps I exaggerated a bit. But your conclusion is
> still the same as mine. There aren't any big names anymore.
> I can't tell you when either of my teenagers has ever
> referred to a single jock on any of the stations they
> (rarely) listen to. They couldn't name one. There's nothing
> on the radio for them to be passionate about.
>
> But that was only a secondary point to support my main
> point, which was to agree with the previous poster that it
> is the oldies-loving crowd that seems more passionate about
> radio. And I stated why I believe this to be so.
>
> Note too that I was echoing some of your thoughts from your
> "brutal" thread below. I pretty much agree with everything
> you said in that post. Very well articulated.
>
Actually you both are right, there are a lot of choices on the radio dial for the kids, not so many for the over 50 set. Add to the fact that corporate radio has gone way too far into the "we don't talk so you can hear more music". They have taken a lot of the personality out of all the dayparts except for mornings. This in turn makes it easy to voice track.
As a jock I VT part-time. I like it becuase it frees up my weekend but I can still make a little money and get my radio fix. I can do a 5 hour show in about an hour. I can also schedule my time based on what else I have going on that weekend. As a listener I don't like it becuase if you aren't there listening to your station then why should I?
As a jock in a medium market there are fewer places to work because most stations voice trak or go with a syndicated show in the evening and just about all are automated overnight. The overnight show used to be a great training ground but now it's gone. So where to the kids go to develop their skills?
I was lucky enough to do overnights for a few years on a station that had a MOR format and a very loyal audience. They trained me, not the P.D. If I made a mistake they called and told me about it! At first I didn't appreciate it but in time I did because I knew they were paying attention!
Sorry I got off track for a sec... Back to biz. I think radio will have to reinvent itself again if it wants to stay relivent and stay top of mind. These days it seems to cater to the passive listener. The great thing about radio as opposed to listening to your iPod is the content can be kept freash without the listener having to do anything. Also there is the shared experience. When listening to the radio you know that (hopefully) others are listening too. You are a part of it. With an iPod or CD's you're isolated. When a station automates it's like listening to someone else's iPod when they aren't there.
Radio has become too predictable. The liners are repeated endlessly and you can tell what station it is just by listening to a song or two. I like it when you have no idea what the jock is going to say next or when you don't know what song is coming up...surprise me, keep it interesting. If the jock really likes a song let him play it twice like they used to do, have fun people, it's not brain surgery.
It seems like over the years to make themselves seem more and more important program directors have complicated the hell out of a guy sitting down, talking to people and playing records on the radio.
Radio= art or science? I pick art!
MikeM
> OK, perhaps I exaggerated a bit. But your conclusion is
> still the same as mine. There aren't any big names anymore.
> I can't tell you when either of my teenagers has ever
> referred to a single jock on any of the stations they
> (rarely) listen to. They couldn't name one. There's nothing
> on the radio for them to be passionate about.
>
> But that was only a secondary point to support my main
> point, which was to agree with the previous poster that it
> is the oldies-loving crowd that seems more passionate about
> radio. And I stated why I believe this to be so.
>
> Note too that I was echoing some of your thoughts from your
> "brutal" thread below. I pretty much agree with everything
> you said in that post. Very well articulated.
>
Actually you both are right, there are a lot of choices on the radio dial for the kids, not so many for the over 50 set. Add to the fact that corporate radio has gone way too far into the "we don't talk so you can hear more music". They have taken a lot of the personality out of all the dayparts except for mornings. This in turn makes it easy to voice track.
As a jock I VT part-time. I like it becuase it frees up my weekend but I can still make a little money and get my radio fix. I can do a 5 hour show in about an hour. I can also schedule my time based on what else I have going on that weekend. As a listener I don't like it becuase if you aren't there listening to your station then why should I?
As a jock in a medium market there are fewer places to work because most stations voice trak or go with a syndicated show in the evening and just about all are automated overnight. The overnight show used to be a great training ground but now it's gone. So where to the kids go to develop their skills?
I was lucky enough to do overnights for a few years on a station that had a MOR format and a very loyal audience. They trained me, not the P.D. If I made a mistake they called and told me about it! At first I didn't appreciate it but in time I did because I knew they were paying attention!
Sorry I got off track for a sec... Back to biz. I think radio will have to reinvent itself again if it wants to stay relivent and stay top of mind. These days it seems to cater to the passive listener. The great thing about radio as opposed to listening to your iPod is the content can be kept freash without the listener having to do anything. Also there is the shared experience. When listening to the radio you know that (hopefully) others are listening too. You are a part of it. With an iPod or CD's you're isolated. When a station automates it's like listening to someone else's iPod when they aren't there.
Radio has become too predictable. The liners are repeated endlessly and you can tell what station it is just by listening to a song or two. I like it when you have no idea what the jock is going to say next or when you don't know what song is coming up...surprise me, keep it interesting. If the jock really likes a song let him play it twice like they used to do, have fun people, it's not brain surgery.
It seems like over the years to make themselves seem more and more important program directors have complicated the hell out of a guy sitting down, talking to people and playing records on the radio.
Radio= art or science? I pick art!
MikeM
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mdr1234
Guest
Give it a break....
Hey guys I'm from the mid twenties group.. I love Oldies and I really enjoyed listening to Dusty Rhodes... This is the best news in Cincy in a great while.. I'm tired of hearing of Jerry Springer on 1530.. I'm glad to see Dusty and most of the "Good Guys" will be returning to the radio again... i just hope the late night radio waves will not be a problem....
So let's just wait and see if what this station will do........
Hey guys I'm from the mid twenties group.. I love Oldies and I really enjoyed listening to Dusty Rhodes... This is the best news in Cincy in a great while.. I'm tired of hearing of Jerry Springer on 1530.. I'm glad to see Dusty and most of the "Good Guys" will be returning to the radio again... i just hope the late night radio waves will not be a problem....
So let's just wait and see if what this station will do........
Re: Come on Keys. Not everyone is VTed
> The VTed stations are actually just a few: MIX, FOX, and
> KISS....and KISS may be live for part of the day, and Garry
> Jeff is live on The FOX.
>
> Other stations use VT, but not totally. There are live and
> local morning shows and jocks on WMOJ, WYGY, WRRM, WKRQ,
> WEBN, WGRR, AND WUBE. After syndicated morning shows, jocks
> are live on WAQZ and WIZF. That's not too bad. Most of
> these stations weren't even factors back in the 80s heyday
> of Q102 or in the 50s-70s. More choices, more diverse
> programming, and more fragmentation. That's part of the
> reason we don't have any big names anymore. No one station
> has the critical mass of people to make them a big name
> anymore. We'll never see another Q102. There's just too
> much choice now.
>
Kiss is live from Storm Bennet through Jordan and also live on the weekends. WEBN tracks a couple of shifts.
> The VTed stations are actually just a few: MIX, FOX, and
> KISS....and KISS may be live for part of the day, and Garry
> Jeff is live on The FOX.
>
> Other stations use VT, but not totally. There are live and
> local morning shows and jocks on WMOJ, WYGY, WRRM, WKRQ,
> WEBN, WGRR, AND WUBE. After syndicated morning shows, jocks
> are live on WAQZ and WIZF. That's not too bad. Most of
> these stations weren't even factors back in the 80s heyday
> of Q102 or in the 50s-70s. More choices, more diverse
> programming, and more fragmentation. That's part of the
> reason we don't have any big names anymore. No one station
> has the critical mass of people to make them a big name
> anymore. We'll never see another Q102. There's just too
> much choice now.
>
Kiss is live from Storm Bennet through Jordan and also live on the weekends. WEBN tracks a couple of shifts.
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