n7pat said:
Was KEX on at night in the early 60s? Don't think so.
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Was KEX on at night in the early 60s? Don't think so.
radioman148 said:
I did hear KEX in Riverside back then, but I believe it was much lower in power at night back in the early 60's. Plus, it would have been off the side of the antenna when receiving WOWO. By the way, WOWO had a really nice three-fold QSL card with pictures of their studio, staff, etc. I wish I still had that!
I DID receive KEX in Riverside. However, I don't remember it as being very strong there at night. Add to that was the fact that there was ANOTHER 1190 in Orange County (KEZY, I think) about 35 miles W-SW of me, which also was not very strong at night in Riverside. In fact, KEZY was very weak, if not unlistenable, in Riverside at night back then. Another factor was that KEX was off the side of my antenna when listening to the east for WOWO. Another 1190 I could sometimes hear was KLIF from Dallas, too. My receiver at the time was an old 1937 vintage, RCA Model ACR-111, 16 tube monster. Look that one up in Google!
jd said:
My mistake, however on my visits to Southern California in the 60s I don't ever remember hearing KEX.
w9wi said:
KXL-750 in Portland was a daytimer as I recall back in the early 60's. They were able to sign on well before sunrise in Portland as I did hear them occassionally before sunrise in Southern California. I believe they were allowed to come on the air at Atlanta's (WSB) sunrise but signed off at local Portland Sunset.
KR4BD said:
KXL wasn't technically a daytimer, it was a Limited Time station. They could, indeed, operate from Atlanta sunrise until Portland sunset. This month, that means KXL could come on the air at 4:45am Pacific Time, even though it would be three hours before sunrise in Portland. KXL could also operate any nighttime hours WSB Atlanta chose not to broadcast. (a Portland radio history board shows KXL signed off at sunset, then came back on the air at 10:05pm (1:05am in Atlanta) and operated until 2am. (5am Atlanta) )
There aren't many of these left. FCC database says KMMJ (Grand Island, Nebraska) is the only one, though the NRC AM Radio Log lists a handful of others. There weren't many to begin with; I only count 18 when NARBA went into effect in 1941. Almost all of them have since installed directional antennas and operate unlimited time today.
w9wi said:
We had the same sort of arrangement here in the Chicago area with WJJD deferring KSL on 1160. IIRC, KSL signed off at 2am, and then WJJD came on at 4am Chicago time. However, in cold weather months, 'JJD would sign off again at 7am or whatever....and then come back on fifteen minutes later. I stand to be corrected on the particulars, anyone can feel free to correct me or fill in additional details.
Back to the original topic. Where I am/where I grew up roughly 40-50 miles northwest of downtown Chicago, WOWO was regular....but weak...daytime on 1190. Usually it was absent after they went to the old nighttime pattern. Between their "new" setup and a semi-locals nearby on 1180 and 1200 (days), it's now become rather rare. You can, however, usually catch it when they power up at sunrise.
w9wi said:
w9wi said:
No, you didn't miss it by that much. I think the "L" designation was dropped in just the past few years; the last official listing of WMBI as a limited time station that I've seen was on their pre- and post-sunset authorizations, dated 2007. As I recall WMBI's limited time status allowed them to operate 30 minutes past Chicago sunset times although I've discovered now that it apparently was for all but one month. In December they got 45 minutes.
I stand to be corrected....as always. But my memory is of WMBI signing off/on at exactly the same time as the other daytimes. Bob Murfin's sign-on's being particularly upbeat. (IIRC "Morning Clock" was the name of the show). Of course WAIT and WJJD had the later sign-offs.
The ironic thing about WMBI....at least to me...is that 1110 at night used to be pretty empty around here. Chicago sits pretty much in the nighttime nulls of both WBT and KFAB. I always thought they could've gotten fulltime status....probably even at their full 5kw power....had they wanted to build a DA and "just do it".
The ironic thing about WMBI....at least to me...is that 1110 at night used to be pretty empty around here. Chicago sits pretty much in the nighttime nulls of both WBT and KFAB. I always thought they could've gotten fulltime status....probably even at their full 5kw power....had they wanted to build a DA and "just do it".
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