WPDI 104.7 Hazlet is on the air

[MickeyD]

It doesn't grant on programming and it's perfectly legal to sell a CP.

You can't sell APPLICATIONS, but you can sell CPs. That's like saying I can't sell my car after I buy it.

I don't see what the big deal is here. If I applied for a translator or non-comm CP and someone wanted to give me plenty of money for it, sold!

As far as WDDM getting displaced, that's the risk you run operating on a class D station. They weren't smart enough to apply for the class A allocation on 89.3 during the non-comm window. They were (can't speak for them now) terrible operators, running over height, power and also lots of full blown :60 ads on their non-comm frequency. They're pretty lucky they got the displacement to 104.7 through with all of those things factored in.

As long as the FCC looks the other way on pirates, they are doing nothing wrong

 

[jvn]

I tried picking up WPDI on the Parkway today and in the Hazlet area the 104.7 Translator kept overpowering them. The translator was coming in on my radio in mono and WPDI was jumping in and out in Stereo. When I was in the Holmdel area near the arts center I got WPDI with no interference but only for about 5 Minutes before they got out of range as I approached Eatontown. I could not get them at all in Woodbridge but could slightly pick up the Classical network translator. I Heard the 100.7 Edison translator withe the HumDesi format from 97.1 HD 2. Not that great of signal today even in Edison.

Getting back to WPDI this is the second time I tried to pick them up within their city of license and the 104.7 translator seemed to be blocking it. Does anyone know how reception is closer ti their new transmitter location on Rt 34. Is the 104.7 translator also causing problems in that area also ?

 

[mdamico25]

I haven't been down there in the last few weeks since WPDI signed on, but I asked my Dad to check it out, and he reported that the 104.7 signal was subject to all sorts of dropouts right in the Southern part of Hazlet, about 500' from the Holmdel border in the hilly stretch of town south of the train station off of Holmdel Road. In fact, he thought he was picking up bits and pieces of WSPK 104.7/Poughkeepsie, NY instead of WPDI.

At the same time, he reported that you could still "hear" both WRFF and WSJO. WRFF's signal was the stronger of the two, which works for me, since I usually listen to "Radio 104 5" whenever I'm down there. I'm heading down that way next weekend, so I will see it for myself when I'm down there.

-Mike

 

[Neal]

Today was the First time I noticed WPDI on the air… not saying they are doing anything wrong, just an observation
I was In Hazlet today. the signal was not that strong. Went to Visit a friend in Union,and the signal was stronger. Took Rt 35 Home via Oldbridge. The signal was strongest in South Amboy. moving North.
heading down Rt 9 back to Marlboro via Rt 34 The Signal was fairly weak… I would have Figured it would have been strong through the Cheesequake area It was not. So I question as to it Being on the RT34 towers noisy signal as a drove past them. Just an Observation…. however there was TROPO today. I will give an example. many years back I was actually at the old Telegraph hill Site Sitting Right under the WCNJ antenna at the base of the tower. The TROPO was so strong that 2 stations KXNE Newbaska Educational Running 45KW and KJTF running 80kw came blasting in that it took out WCNJ sitting 140 feet Below the antenna They were fighting it out . Normally I cannot hear the 104.7 translator at my house. but today it was Rock solid… TROPO explains It.
Ralph

 

[nd2023]

The station from Nebraska was coming in via e-skip, not tropo.

 

[Neal]

When Its hot out its called Thermo Tropic Propagation
It was not e-Skip.
E skip usually happens at night….

The station from Nebraska was coming in via e-skip, not tropo.

 

[nd2023]

It's called tropospheric ducting, and that usually brings in stations within a few hundred miles at night. E-skip usually happens during the day and brings in stations 500-1500 miles away.

 

[w9wi]

When Its hot out its called Thermo Tropic Propagation
It was not e-Skip.
E skip usually happens at night….

The station from Nebraska was coming in via e-skip, not tropo.

It is EXCEEDINGLY unlikely you heard Nebraska by tropo in New Jersey. 99.44% certain Nick is right.

A few characteristics of tropo:
- Has no minimum distance. It can affect stations as close as 20-30 miles.
- Can affect any VHF/UHF frequency.
- Can (and usually does) continue for hours.
- Tends to be best at night, peaking around sunrise.
- Happens pretty much any time a stable high-pressure area exists in your area -- regardless of what month it is. If you have warm weather in February, you may well have tropo.
- Maximum distance around 500 miles for inland paths. Longer paths can be possible but are very rare. (somewhat less rare if most of the path is over water)

A few characteristics of E-skip:
- Has a minimum distance. Almost never affects paths of less than 500 miles. If you're receiving 300-mile DX, it's tropo.
- Does not affect UHF signals. If you're receiving distant UHF-TV stations*, it's tropo -- E-skip has NEVER affected any TV channel above 13, and skip above TV channel 6 is EXTREMELY rare.
- Usually lasts only an hour or two at a time.
- Tends to be best in late morning (around 10:30-11am) and late afternoon (around 3-4pm). Rare (but not at all unheardof) late at night or in early morning.
- Most likely from late spring (beginning of May) through mid-summer. (end of July) Not affected by weather in your area. (the jury is still out on whether weather at the midpoint of the path has anything to do with E-skip. For example, if you're receiving Chicago, it may be related to severe weather in eastern Ohio. We don't know.)
- Maximum distance around 1500 miles. EXTREMELY rare multihop openings may go further.

So again, if it's UHF and/or it's closer than about 500 miles, it's tropo. If it's VHF-low (channels 2-6*), and/or it's more than 500 miles, it's E-skip. A bit simplistic but if you go by those rules you'll almost always be right.

* Note that with digital, stations on channels 2-13 may actually be transmitting on UHF. See Trip's website, mine, or the FCC's to determine a station's actual frequency.

 

[pjc1961]

From the RadioAsiaFM.com site, a form to fill out for interference complaints re: 104.7 WPDI linked here.

This tactic is similar to the WKHK interference complaints in May 2011 vs. the short-lived translator at 106.3 in Manhattan.

 

[nd2023]

From the RadioAsiaFM.com site, a form to fill out for interference complaints re: 104.7 WPDI linked here.

This tactic is similar to the WKHK interference complaints in May 2011 vs. the short-lived translator at 106.3 in Manhattan.

So are they trying to get the 104.7 translator in New Brunswick shut down? It does wipe out WPDI in the areas with a high concentration of Indians.

 

[satech]

Lots of FM DX this morning. I heard multiple Washington, DC stations coming in. The DJ on 102.1 from Philly was on the air explaining that the poor reception listeners were calling in and complaining about was caused by atmospheric conditions, and not the fault of the station.

 

[nd2023]

Lots of FM DX this morning. I heard multiple Washington, DC stations coming in. The DJ on 102.1 from Philly was on the air explaining that the poor reception listeners were calling in and complaining about was caused by atmospheric conditions, and not the fault of the station.

I wouldn't consider it poor reception, I'd consider it really great reception...of other stations

 

[sNEWSer]

Any updates on the status of their interference issue? Been trying to tune in occasionally when I am in the car and some days it sounds stronger and some days it's quite weak. I thought maybe it was atmospheric conditions massacreing the 104.7 frequency... usually WELJ from the island, Q105 from MD and the New Brunswick translator all blended together. Surpringly enough, I thought WSPK would be more of an impact than it is.

 

[nd2023]

Any updates on the status of their interference issue? Been trying to tune in occasionally when I am in the car and some days it sounds stronger and some days it's quite weak. I thought maybe it was atmospheric conditions massacreing the 104.7 frequency... usually WELJ from the island, Q105 from MD and the New Brunswick translator all blended together. Surpringly enough, I thought WSPK would be more of an impact than it is.

As long as this humid weather lasts, there will be tropo drowning out WPDI.