Has WPHT been shutting off their HD noise maker while the Phillies games are on? I was listening Sinday 4/7 and the hash certainly wasn't there while the game was on.
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WPHT HD During Phillies Games
- Thread starter DaveWilliams
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1210 AM is airing the games in real time, without delay. That's why the IBOC is not on during the Phillies games.
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Is WPHT shutting off their HD noise when the Phillies are on? I noticed the hash was missing this past weekend when the game was on but back later when regular programming returned. They should just leave it off!
Is WPHT shutting off their HD noise when the Phillies are on? I noticed the hash was missing this past weekend when the game was on but back later when regular programming returned. They should just leave it off!
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FredLeonard
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I've never heard of an AM only HD Radio. So the Phillies games are available in HD over OGL's FM sub-channel.
Come to think of it, what's the point of any AM HD. All of them are available on FM sub-channels. AM IBOC is redundant. And FM sub-channels cover more territory than AM IBOC. I lose AM HD and the FM sub-channel keeps going and going....
Come to think of it, what's the point of any AM HD. All of them are available on FM sub-channels. AM IBOC is redundant. And FM sub-channels cover more territory than AM IBOC. I lose AM HD and the FM sub-channel keeps going and going....
Isn't not running the Phillies on their AM (or FM) HD channels something to do with the Phillies wanting something extra for them doing that? Thats why some stations don't run the games on their internet channel, the ball team is money hungry.
DaveWilliams said:
The Phillies are on WIP-FM HD1 and WOGL HD 3 and 4. They are not on WPHT HD because WPHT HD does not exist during Phillies games (at least, during home games). The reason is they want it to be 100% live with zero delay (so people in the ballpark can listen) and you can't have that with HD on.
Stations don't stream baseball games because league rules prohibit it, in order to protect the league's (not the team's) pay service.
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FredLeonard
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aindik said:
Good for 1210 and the Phillies. I went to a minor league game a couple of seasons ago. I was by myself, so I took a radio along to listen to all the sports announcer trivia (especially useful for minor league games where players come and go). The play by play was 25 seconds behind. It was completely unlistenable. I emailed the station when I got home (a Clear Channel station, of course). They sent back a reply which said basically they were afraid that one of their announcers would say the "f word." The crowd noise mic was potted down so far that even if somebody walked by the booth and said it, you couldn't hear it. Really dumb.
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EZway2go
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I didn't know that. Then that certainly explains something though. Last summer on a cross country trip, we were somewhere out west when it was time for a Phillies game. I think they were playing Milwaukee. "No problem," I thought. I'll just turn on my Kindle Fire and get 1210 on TuneIn. Couldn't get it. So I searched for Milwaukee sports stations and found the flagship station carrying the Brewers. The station came in, but it wasn't the ballgame. Instead, it was some network-fed sports talk show. We had to settle for KYW with their scoring updates at :15 and :45.aindik said:
Gosh it's been that way forever. MLB owns the audio. And even more.
Ever listen to the following spiel? "The broadcast/telecast of this game is the property of Major League Baseball. Any use of the accounts and descriptions of this game without the express written consent of '_________(club name)' or Major League Baseball is prohibited."
Us oldsters can recall that recitation by the likes of the dear-departed By Saam, Bill Campbell, Rich Ashburn, Harry Kalas, etc., and it was written long before anyone ever thought of streaming radio stations on another medium.
Technically, this would legally prevent you from sitting at a game and relaying the game information via telephone, cellphone, two cans and a string.
Ever listen to the following spiel? "The broadcast/telecast of this game is the property of Major League Baseball. Any use of the accounts and descriptions of this game without the express written consent of '_________(club name)' or Major League Baseball is prohibited."
Us oldsters can recall that recitation by the likes of the dear-departed By Saam, Bill Campbell, Rich Ashburn, Harry Kalas, etc., and it was written long before anyone ever thought of streaming radio stations on another medium.
Technically, this would legally prevent you from sitting at a game and relaying the game information via telephone, cellphone, two cans and a string.
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FredLeonard
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It was written to keep other radio stations from picking up and rebroadcasting the game. It was also written to keep bars imposing a cover charge or theaters imposing an admission charge to watch a game broadcast. It also gives ball clubs control of broadcasters. They are not independent journalists. They are shills for the team, which can hire and fire and tell them what to say and what not to say.
PS: Bill Campbell is retired but not "departed."
PS: Bill Campbell is retired but not "departed."
EZway2go said:
What you encountered was the period where CBS decided they hated Tune In and removed all their stations from it.
1210's stream, much like the Brewers, usually plays a rerun of a syndicated show or some generic sports talk during games.
If you just want to listen to one game remotely, you can grab the MLB At Bat app and get one month of gameday audio for $2.99.
Yeah, unfortunate mistake on my part. I knew that Bill Campbell is still with us and incorrectly lumped him in as a past broadcaster with those who have passed away.
Still, the idea is correct - that we've been hearing that spiel for years and that it is in fact legal and binding. And while it certainly protects against other radio stations from picking up the feed and re-transmitting it, it also prevents any would-be broadcaster from attending a game and sending out any kind of audio or video descriptions.
Still, the idea is correct - that we've been hearing that spiel for years and that it is in fact legal and binding. And while it certainly protects against other radio stations from picking up the feed and re-transmitting it, it also prevents any would-be broadcaster from attending a game and sending out any kind of audio or video descriptions.
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FredLeonard
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HGN2001 said:
Other broadcasters get some latitude. KYW (even before they and 1210 had the same owner) would do live shots from the press box during the game, often re-capping and describing what was happening at the moment. I guess as long as they don't stay too long, it's OK.
Now, Wrigley Field has apartment buildings across the street that have good views of the playing field (Shibe Park used to have that, too, back in the day). I wonder what would happen if somebody did play by play from somebody's roof top off team property.
Yeah, it's often been the case that a TV station wanted to show highlights from a game on their newscast while it was still in progress, but had to wait until the last out to show those videos.
These days. they seem to allow video highlights on the web at MLB.com while the game is still on, but then they own it, don't they?
These days. they seem to allow video highlights on the web at MLB.com while the game is still on, but then they own it, don't they?
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