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WPIX Now Gone From Cox

First WNBC was taken away now WPIX. That leaves the only out of market WGBY out of Springfield, MA. Also about the channel line-up I noticed Cox removed a couple networks to digital. CMT to digital from regular cable, TCM, and C-SPAN 2 no longer on 22. Also I see WGN was added but not to the regular line-up, to the digital. Glad I don't have to put up with that, I got Time Warner where I live now. Just came back for the July 4th weekend.
 
Yeah... they'll eventually move everything to a more expensive tier. This way they can get more of your cash. It's one of the reasons I called COX 18 months ago. I wanted the bundle package that comes with no channels. That is the one where the Cox van shows up at your house and disconnects the cable. Then you buy your own antenna and from then on you get to keep all your money every month.
 
Ken said:
First WNBC was taken away now WPIX. That leaves the only out of market WGBY out of Springfield, MA. Also about the channel line-up I noticed Cox removed a couple networks to digital. CMT to digital from regular cable, TCM, and C-SPAN 2 no longer on 22. Also I see WGN was added but not to the regular line-up, to the digital. Glad I don't have to put up with that, I got Time Warner where I live now. Just came back for the July 4th weekend.

Which Cox system is this Ken?

If I were one of their subscribers, I'd be furious! Those changes are the sort that could easily drive me to dump cable and go with Dish or Direct TV.
 
BRNout said:
Which Cox system is this Ken?

I second that. Which COX System? My mom has COX Meriden and I was just there on Monday. WPIX was on Channel 22 (Moved from Channel 23 several months ago). CSPAN-1 is on both Analog Channel 21 and Digital Only Channel 76. CSPAN-2 was moved to Digital Only Channel 77, CSPAN-3 was added to digital only Channel 78. TCM moved to Digital only 18 months ago. TRU-TV moved TCM's old slot on 62 and is now on Channel 96. CMT aka The Redneck Reality Channel moved to Digital 195 (or 196) quite a while ago. Discovery Health moved from Channel 56 to Digital 100-something quite a while ago. And Bravo Moved from Channel 63 to Channel 56.
 
BRNout said:
Those changes are the sort that could easily drive me to dump cable and go with Dish or Direct TV.

Yes, because it's so easy to get out-of-market affiliates with satellite. Could be they're freeing up room for all the HD channels they've been adding. Isn't it something like 2 more HD's for every old-school analog channel moved to digital?

Be glad you don't have Comcast. Think this is bad - try being forced to go all-digital and having to pay extra for set-top boxes for each TV you own. It's like going back in time 20 years only paying 3 times as much for it.
 
I read it wrong or cox.com was messed up. As I looked up the channel line-up on their website and it had WPIX on the list. I believe it was set on another town and not Cox Meriden area.

Why does Cox skip 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69. Then stops at 70 where TV Land is. Then after 70 it goes to 96 where truTV is. That is just crazy. I know back before digital 64-67 used be the movie channels HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, The Movie Channel. Channels 62 and 63 were used before for regular cable which carried TCM and Bravo. Can't Cox just move TV Land to 62 and truTV to 63. Or can they not use those channels for a certain reason. And moving C-SPAN 2 from 22 to only digital was for what? Sure its not going to bother many but whats wrong with it being on regular cable 22.

One more how come WTNH is still on cable 7 and hasn't moved to cable 8 like WFSB has moved from cable 2 to cable 3 ?
 
qunewsguy said:
Yes, because it's so easy to get out-of-market affiliates with satellite.

Actually it is. I had Dish Network 8 years ago and I received all the Los Angeles affiliates from my house on the East Coast. I forgot exactly how I did it. I think I just told them that the dish was located in a different zip code. A location with no locals carried on Dish Network. It worked for me. Don't know if it still would.
 
qunewsguy said:
Yes, because it's so easy to get out-of-market affiliates with satellite.

It can be. Depends on where you live OR where you claim your zip code to be. They have a portion of their website dedicated to deciding what affiliates you may purchase based on zip code. And, as we were talking about WPIX, you can absolutely order a "superstation" package from Dish Network (not Direct TV) no matter where you live.

I recall staying in a B&B in Boothbay Harbor, ME that had Direct TV for each unit. Very nice setup. And, somehow, we got the full compliment of affiliates from NY, LA and the locals from Portland. I don't know how the owner did it, but it was great!
 
Ken said:
Why does Cox skip 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69. Then stops at 70 where TV Land is. Then after 70 it goes to 96 where truTV is. That is just crazy.

In New York City, Cablevision has no channel 8. Goes right from 7 to 9. (Channel 8 used to be occupied by CNN until they reorganized their channel lineup years ago. 8 has been vacant since.)
 
Ken said:
I read it wrong or cox.com was messed up. As I looked up the channel line-up on their website and it had WPIX on the list. I believe it was set on another town and not Cox Meriden area.

Why does Cox skip 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69. Then stops at 70 where TV Land is. Then after 70 it goes to 96 where truTV is. That is just crazy. I know back before digital 64-67 used be the movie channels HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, The Movie Channel. Channels 62 and 63 were used before for regular cable which carried TCM and Bravo. Can't Cox just move TV Land to 62 and truTV to 63. Or can they not use those channels for a certain reason. And moving C-SPAN 2 from 22 to only digital was for what? Sure its not going to bother many but whats wrong with it being on regular cable 22.

One more how come WTNH is still on cable 7 and hasn't moved to cable 8 like WFSB has moved from cable 2 to cable 3 ?

COMCAST is worse man. 2 is vacant and has been since WFSB moved to channel 3. (It used to be 2 WFSB and 3 vacant). Then 14 and 15 are vacant. (That was HBO & The Moive Channel a long time ago) Then 20, 21, and 23 are vacant. Then 65, 66, 67, 68, and 69 are vacant. Then 70 is QVC and 71 is vacant and 72 is The TV Guide Network. Then it skips to 89 and 90 then 95, 96, 97 98, and 99. COX is better than Comcast because you still get around 64 channels without a box. Comcast here you get about 21 without a box which is basic cable:

3 CBS, 4 NBC, 5 Community Access, 6 FOX, 7 PBS, 8 ABC, 9 MY Network TV, 10 ION, 11 CW, 12 PBS #2, 13 Telemundo, 16 TBS, 17 EWTN, 18 Univision, 19 Weather Channel, 22 CSPAN, 70 QVC, 95 Government Access, 96 Educational Access, 98 CT Government Channel, and 99 HSN. Along with Bars and Tones on Channel 2.

Comcast is also run by incompetent people. When I first became a customer in April 2009 when I moved into my apartment they didn't set my box up properly. It was set for a different COMCAST system even tho the installer told me it would fix itself, it never did, so I had to go onto COMCAST HELP CHAT. That's when they finally put through the right system. Also I can't get listings on my on-screen guide that are more than a few hours into the future. And those that do get listed have no description of the show available. A lot of listings that are more than five or 6 hours in the future are replaced with TO BE ANNOUNCED. Then for about 2 1/2 weeks the Community Access Channel was missing and in order for me to watch it I had to unplug my box and hook the cable directly into my TV.

Another problem with COMCAST is duplication: These are not HD feeds. I don't have HD Cable. I don't have an HDTV.

EWTN is 17 and 393.
New England Cable News is 24 and 177
TRU TV is 37 and 182
Hallmark Channel is 38 and 137
TV Guide Channel is 72 and 100.
Shop NBC is 89 and 280. (89 was just added 3 weeks ago)
Jewelry TV is 90 (Leased Access), 157, and 171.

Of note: Neither COMCAST nor COX carries WHCT-LP 38 Azteca America and DISH NETWORK Does. COMCAST carries WUTH-LP Channel 47 Telefutura on Channel 296, which ID's as WUVN-DT 18.3 while COX does not. COX Carries WTNH's Radar (Channel 8.2 or 59.2) on Channel 125 while COMCAST does not.

COMCAST also refuses to add WGN America to any of its lineups here in Connecticut. I emailed them about it and they said they were concentrating on digitizing their entire line up and not adding any new channels. It sucks and it's a bunch of bunk 'em. I mean they can make it part of the Basic Cable line up. They have 2, 14, 15, 20, 21, and 23 vacant. COX added WGN America to all their New England Systems on Digital Channel 82. Also the Community Access Station that serves my town NUTMEG TV is no longer allowed to broadcast the Mum Parade Live because COMCAST claims that having that live broadcasts causes problems with their ON-DEMAND Service. WAH. Too bad. The On-Demand doesn't work for 3 hours. Who cares?
 
Apparently, that Comcast name change to "Xfinity" is really working wonders. :D
 
i highly agree with all of this especially when they charge you for things that you never ordered and they wont take it off and make you pay it or shut your cable off!! here in mass we have channels 66,67,918,981,980 all vacant i dont get it!!! and they add crappy channels even when they do!! so im going with the dish
 
You guys do realize that those channels aren't "vacant," don't you?

All those digital services need to go somewhere, and the "static" that you see on those "vacant" channels is probably actually QAM digital. It's a much more efficient use of spectrum that's not unlimited even on cable - that one "vacant" channel on your analog service is probably pumping out three or more HD services or a dozen-plus SD channels for digital customers.

Put yourself in the shoes (or rather the balance sheet) of your local cable company: who do you care more about pleasing - the customer who's paying you $130 a month for the deluxe package, or the guy paying $21 a month for analog basic? It's pretty basic math: you've got a much better chance of getting significantly more revenue by continuing to add the HD services for the $130 a month customer than by adding any more spectrum-hogging analog services for Mr. $21-a-month-and-not-a-penny-more.

I'd be surprised to find any cable company anywhere adding any more analog services at this point. For the most part, they're all being phased out, and within a few years analog cable as we know it will be gone completely.
 
MarcB said:
COMCAST is worse man. 2 is vacant and has been since WFSB moved to channel 3. (It used to be 2 WFSB and 3 vacant). Then 14 and 15 are vacant. (That was HBO & The Moive Channel a long time ago) Then 20, 21, and 23 are vacant. Then 65, 66, 67, 68, and 69 are vacant. Then 70 is QVC and 71 is vacant and 72 is The TV Guide Network. Then it skips to 89 and 90 then 95, 96, 97 98, and 99. COX is better than Comcast because you still get around 64 channels without a box. Comcast here you get about 21 without a box which is basic cable:

3 CBS, 4 NBC, 5 Community Access, 6 FOX, 7 PBS, 8 ABC, 9 MY Network TV, 10 ION, 11 CW, 12 PBS #2, 13 Telemundo, 16 TBS, 17 EWTN, 18 Univision, 19 Weather Channel, 22 CSPAN, 70 QVC, 95 Government Access, 96 Educational Access, 98 CT Government Channel, and 99 HSN. Along with Bars and Tones on Channel 2.


Another problem with COMCAST is duplication: These are not HD feeds. I don't have HD Cable. I don't have an HDTV.

EWTN is 17 and 393.
New England Cable News is 24 and 177
TRU TV is 37 and 182
Hallmark Channel is 38 and 137
TV Guide Channel is 72 and 100.
Shop NBC is 89 and 280. (89 was just added 3 weeks ago)
Jewelry TV is 90 (Leased Access), 157, and 171.

Of note: Neither COMCAST nor COX carries WHCT-LP 38 Azteca America and DISH NETWORK Does. COMCAST carries WUTH-LP Channel 47 Telefutura on Channel 296, which ID's as WUVN-DT 18.3 while COX does not. COX Carries WTNH's Radar (Channel 8.2 or 59.2) on Channel 125 while COMCAST does not.

COMCAST also refuses to add WGN America to any of its lineups here in Connecticut. I emailed them about it and they said they were concentrating on digitizing their entire line up and not adding any new channels. It sucks and it's a bunch of bunk 'em. I mean they can make it part of the Basic Cable line up. They have 2, 14, 15, 20, 21, and 23 vacant. COX added WGN America to all their New England Systems on Digital Channel 82. Also the Community Access Station that serves my town NUTMEG TV is no longer allowed to broadcast the Mum Parade Live because COMCAST claims that having that live broadcasts causes problems with their ON-DEMAND Service. WAH. Too bad. The On-Demand doesn't work for 3 hours. Who cares?

Comcast took away most of the analog cable to use the bandwith to give us more HD. There really isn't any duplication. They are remapping the digital SD feed of many cable channels to the channel # where it was on analog cable on your digital box and it is located up in the hundreds also. For every analog channel that got taken away, they added more than 1 HD channel and according to a Comcast tech I was talking to while waiting for some Comcast fiber to be repaired after a major storm, more HD along with faster internet is on the way for Xfinity. They have done some upgrades in the headend. Phone is just there, doesn't take much bandwith.
And down here in the Philly area, Comcast/Xfinity is the only one to keep some basic analog cable which will work on an analog cable ready TV.. When Verizon came in, they had limited analog basic cable and took it all away. Fios is all digital cable and you need a digital box or digital TV with a cable card.
 
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