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WPRO is hurting , WHJJ is gaining

8000! This started SO long ago that WHJJ might have been gaining then!

ionthecomic said:
One Question, Most of the year is ratings period. Are some ratings periods more important than others?

You raise an important point!

The Spring book is the most important in ANY market. Why: These are the numbers much of Christmas will be bought from, and next year's first Quarter will be planned from.

AND, for directional AM stations -- whose coverage geography changes month-to-month with local sunset/sunrise -- are enjoying longer full-pattern days than they get in the-second-most-important-book, Fall.

In 4-book markets, the Summer book is generally the least important.

Good evening from one of the USA's hottest markets, Raleigh-Durham.
Every month, 1000 people move to Wake County, NC.

HC
www.HollandCooke.com
 
So Holland,
You do see anything odd about Dave Barber going on vacation during a ratings period? :eek: :eek:
Walter
 
"But if Oswald wasn't marksman-enough to get off all three shots..."

wc3434 said:
do see anything odd about Dave Barber going on vacation during a ratings period?

Some people see conspiracies EVERYWHERE.

I just spoke with Dave last night, upon his-and-my return from separate treks.

His: vacation, first time-off since he started @ WPRO in March.
Have YOU had any time off since March?

Mine: Work, a twisted two-week four-market radio road trip.
See/hear/gasp, in THIS order:
Act I: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVvnUyUp1_s
Act II: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Imecvi3XeE
Act III: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3MTrcONFN0

And here are three bonus videos, in-no-particular-order.
Sitting-in-for-Sean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMJG4opKwxA
The President's Tie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJnmTKJTod4
Callers are King: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wZMUbwOrZU

But enough about me.
Have you read my book?

SERIOUSLY, back to Dave: Do the math.
Four 12-week Arbitron survey periods per year = 48 weeks.
Aggregate on-air-staff vacations total more-than-4-remaining-weeks, right?
'Gotta go SOMETIME.
Use-it-or-lose-it.

And you heard it first here...another radio-info.com EXCLUSIVE:
Before he loses it, Dave will be using it...AGAIN, week-after-next.
With Gene Valicente and other luminaries filling-in, The Dave Show will likely survive last week's no-Dave time.
Here's hoping another week won't have ya jones'n.

Good morning from Block Island, where, this time of year, deer seem to outnumber people,
HC
www.HollandCooke.com

PS: As if the Dan Rather impersonation you'll hear in Act III isn't reason-enough to watch, see if you can spot a LONG-ago Providence radio voice. ONE clue: He's about to grab the check in the Ruth's Chris Steak House scene. OK...one MORE clue, then you're on your own. He-and-I met at the Jerry Lewis Telethon, in the WPRI-TV parking lot. 1974 or 1975. '75 I think. I was on WPRO, he was on WGNG. Be the first to name him, at [email protected], and you win a FREE one-year subscription to the meaty monthly HC newsletter. Hundreds of radio management suits pony-up $129...but it's yours FREE if you're our winner...
 
Holland,
'I understand your point. I just think he's new here and needs to prove himself.
People are hostile about him. Pushing Allen out of the way. Futher, He's not from R.I.
He needs to be 'dug in' to show he's all about Wpro.
There are at least 4 weeks out of the year there is no book.
If I were Barber, thats the only time I'd take off.
3 years from now, different story.. Walter.
 
RE "People are hostile about him"

People WHO POST HERE are, alrighty.
Anonymous sniping is cheap and easy.

And, hopefully, about half the audience is riled-up too.
As I've told a couple hundred Talk radio general managers, "Worry when the phone DOESN'T ring."
Great hosts are what-consultants-call "all ones and nines."
Meaning that research indicates listeners either love 'em (9) or hate 'em (1)...EVERY DAY.

wc3434 said:
Futher, He's not from R.I.

Nor was that Salty chap.
Nor were I, or Jimmy Gray.
Nor is Dan Yorke.
MOST on-air talent in markets this large is from somewhere else.
This tier is that-step-above entry level that journeyman talent strives for.

Not-being-from-here doesn't seem to hurt Rush Limbaugh or Oprah Winfrey.
Or Patrice Wood (Ohio) or Gene Valicente (Noo Yawk).
CONNECTING is the ballgame.

wc3434 said:
Pushing Allen out of the way.

Radio physics 101: Unless there was dead air there beforehand, SOMETHING gets displaced by WHATEVER shows up.

About 7 pages back, ChattyPatty asked me:
<< Many readers believe you had a role in replacing Matt Allen for Dave Barber. In all candor, would you care to comment? >>

To save you some clicks...

Holland Cooke said:
Matt sure has some fans here, MYSELF INCLUDED, as you'll read about-a-page-back.

Not-to-talk-about-Matt-like-he's-not-in-the-room...but since you were nice enough to ask...here's the dish, a MUCH-misunderstood turn-of-events.

Matt's previous PD, David Bernstein, is a longtime pal of mine.
Several years ago, I congratulated David on FINDING young talent.
Face it, radio's farm team has gone-to-hell since the 1996 Telecom Act.
Consolidation, automation, and syndication have scared-away lots of folks Matt's age.
There are just fewer entry level jobs now.

Fast-forward to about-two-years-ago..

There I was, at the Minneapolis airport, connecting to-or-from I-forget-where, yet-another radio consulting road trip. When my phone rang. MY phone rang. I didn't dial-out.

David told me "Steve Kass is leaving. Any suggestions?"

The rest, as The Providence Journal reported, is history.

In addition to David-and-I going-back, I knew station manager Barbara Haynes.
She and I worked together at WSNE 82-84.

I recommended Dave Barber to WPRO...TWICE.
By the time WPRO hired him, they'd changed PDs.
And all-the-while, Matt kept-on-keeping-on.

Having been on-air as long as I was, I know how being an interim host as long as Matt was can be unsettling. But, to his credit, Matt (as consultants say) "made the show his very own."

Clearly, the-passion-of his-fans-who-post-here speaks volumes.
In some cases, "passion" is the polite word.

But, MY phone rang, that morning in The Twin Cities.
I didn't dial-out.
Honest.

Dave Barber and I had worked together at a station in Michigan which I consulted.
NOBODY I've ever coached runs my playbook better.

I have used the aircheck you will hear at http://members.aol.com/cookeh/news.html as a coaching tool at lots of client stations (including one in NYNY week-before-last). And they always howl.

And they always note the caller who says "Hello Dave. It's Dave, right?"

And they always say "Hmmm!" when I point out WHY the caller asked, which you'll read at http://members.aol.com/cookeh/news.html

WPRO was my third on-air job.
I moved 5 times for radio.
It's an occupational hazard.
A couple of those moves were because I didn't get the job I wanted at-the-station-I-was-at.
Including when I left WPRO, in 1980, after they passed me over for PD...twice.
"We need someone with more experience," they told me.

So I went somewhere else and got the experience.
Nobody could make that decision for me.

Supportive posts here suggest Matt could go to WHJJ.
I'll go ya one better...

I always wince when I hear the term, but it's handy, so I'll use it here:
I could hear Matt do what's been called "FM Talk."
A station that talks to people-younger-than-the-people-local-AMs-talk-to, y'know?
I don't know that there are any of those stations here.
But I know of stations elsewhere that would KILL to find The Next New Voice.

And -- having had to confront the decision to leave a station as special as WPRO will always be, to ANY of us who've worked there -- I wouldn't presume to recommend what Matt should do.

But I do concur with David Bernstein's ear, his vision.
And with what Dave Barber said on his first show, acknowledging Matt's extended interim stint:
"His future in this business is bright."

HC

And THAT -- as out-of-stater Paul Harvey would intone -- is THE REST...of the story...
 
In defense of Barber.... I don't care that he's from Flint. Good radio is GOOD RADIO no matter where a person is from. When I tune in a radio show I sure the hell am not telling myself that I'm only going to like the guy if he is from Rhode Island. LOL
 
With the 29th anniversary of 'The Blizzard Of 78' upon us. The good folks over at WPRI,WJAR, WLNE. Brought back visual memories for those of us who were on the planet during that major storm.But seeing this is 'Providence Radio'.
I have to mention. That WPRO-AM. Along with 920 WJAR-AM. Did an outstanding job. And radio shined brighter than television ever could. During 'The Week The State Stood Still'. Props to Charlie Jefferds who in 1978 was at 920 WJAR-AM.For Keeping us entertained & informed.
 
truthandjustice said:
With the 29th anniversary of 'The Blizzard Of 78' upon us. The good folks over at WPRI,WJAR, WLNE. Brought back visual memories for those of us who were on the planet during that major storm.But seeing this is 'Providence Radio'.
I have to mention. That WPRO-AM. Along with 920 WJAR-AM. Did an outstanding job. And radio shined brighter than television ever could. During 'The Week The State Stood Still'. Props to Charlie Jefferds who in 1978 was at 920 WJAR-AM.For Keeping us entertained & informed.


Thanks for the memories....

When the Blizzard of '78 was approaching it was one street reporter who pushed hard to have WJAR-TV's news truck positioned at the state disaster control location; I think it was at the statehouse. It was a "kid" I had trained in news at the old WXTR (550) right out of high school. He went on to do news at WICE-1290 and finally to 10. From there he want to Outlet's then-owned KOVR in Sacramento and was lost to Rhode Island forever.

Anybody remember:

http://www.rtumble.com/sub_files/contact.htm
 
Les, I remember all too well the Blizzard. I was stuck in it in West Warwick after the RIPTA bus I was in got stuck on Providence St., and I walked to Horgan Jr.High. Stayed thee 2 days before walking part of the way back to Coventry and getting a ride. I do remember Jack K from both WICE and from Channel 10 as well.

Dave Gardiner

WVCH 740/WNWR 1540

Philadelphia
 
Jack Kav was a real Professional. Switching to today, I'd say Mike Monicarvo , who has done both radio and TV is an up and comer. Walter
 
wc3434 said:
Jack Kav was a real Professional. Switching to today, I'd say Mike Monicarvo , who has done both radio and TV is an up and comer. Walter

Jack became a sort of "dean of political reporters" in California's capitol before retiring. What most people don't know is that Jack never went beyond high school prior to building a respected career in radio and TV news. He started working in radio within a few weeks after completing high school; his only training was with an informal extremely low-power station (less than Part 15 which didn't exist back then) run by a youth group in Pawtucket. Try to do that these days!
 
Right now WHJJ is losing not gaining.
Hear St Pierre is talking to Corwin about Cianci and Barber or Kass in September.
Kass would be crazy to leave a job he's wanted all his life with a reform Governor.
Barber and Cianci,, Hum.. HJJ would lose their license in a week.
 
Why would a WPRO personality be talking to the Manager of a competetor about personalities that could crush his own station? Doesn't make sense to rational minds, but then again this is radio.
 
S DANMAN said:
Why would a WPRO personality be talking to the Manager of a competetor about personalities that could crush his own station? Doesn't make sense to rational minds, but then again this is radio.

The only thing I can come up with is that Ron may have pretty much promised Buddy a job at WPRO. But then when it started to look like WPRO management had different ideas by hiring Depetro, this left Buddy without an airshift. Ron may have gone into a panic and is now trying to get Buddy on the air wherever he can just so he can keep his word to him and give him that job he promised. I am sensing some tension over at WPRO lately. Ron seems pissed at upper Management and Yorke is pissed at Depetro. What a happy family.

I drove by the station yesterday on the way to an appointment. As I looked at the building I was thanking my lucky stars for not actually being inside that place. TENSION CITY! No thank you.
 
Hi Buddy here!
I'm NOT gonna go and work at that stinkin place with Depetro there. Eyes got more important things to do . Like WHAT! Like run for DA Mayor, thats what.
Spendin 6 years in da can makes me- im- in- antly qualified for da job.
Up yours PRO . Im buyin my own station!

WCON 990 am. Stay tuned.
 
As a listener, I think whjj is terrible. Even Miss Glover.
The show is slow moving and they don't seem to care about taking calls.

I guess this post started in June 2006. Things have really changed since then.
 
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