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WPVI Action News: Your Thoughts

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Good afternoon. I wanted to get your thoughts on Action News on WPVI channel 6. What do you like about, what don't you like about it, the talent and the format of the newscast.
 
6 has long been the default choice for news in the Delaware Valley.

And that theme music - still groovy after all these years!
 
Awful imaging. The music is very dated (even for me) and the presentation is, in general, tacky. Even their new graphics and studio look to be 20 years out of date. I get one Hell of a laugh imagining this newscast being shown in a place like Dallas or Chicago or Boston or San Francisco. It would not even happen as a joke at the station Christmas party! ;D

They seem to do as good a job as anyone in covering the major local stories. That being said, they don't have one news personality that is really "likable". Jim Gardner seems to be a fine anchor yet he, like everyone else there, lacks a certain warmth. Then again, I notice the same thing on 3 (another generally unlikable newscast).

NBC 10 is a little better in that way, though I could do without Renee Chenault Chaka Fattahhhhhh.
 
I better get my 2cents in before Nertz's comments hijack the thread.

Anyway, 6 has gone down the hill alot this decade. 10 years ago, they were solid from 5:00am to 11:00.

The team of Monica, Rick, and Cecily Tynan was great, and they had the right energy for morning news. This same team lacks at 5:00PM (altough Rick is the still the man) The joking around that worked well for morning news, doesn't for 5:00

With that said, their departure from the mornings has left a void for the morning news. Matt, Tam, David, and Karen are nowhere as good as Rick, Monica, and Cecily once were. Karen Rogers is a perky person on roids, but to counter that they have the half alseep Tamela Edwards. When these two interact, its like going back and forth from low volume at slow speed, to high volume and fast speed. Matt is ok, but is no Rick Williams. David Murphy is a good, but seems out of place. He looks more comformable during the noon newscast...so I guess you could say he is the opposite of Rick, Monica, and Cecily, in would be good during a more controled newscast like at 5pm, then the morning newscast.

Noon newscast is good, or I guess as good as its ever been. I still wonder if ch6 is planing on giving Monica the boot, and they're using the noon newscast to get Rick, and Sarah Bloomquist to gel together, and for the viewers accept the pair. Or maybe they threw Bloomquist a bone, after passing her over for the morning shift?

5pm has probably taken the biggest dive. I already mentioned why I think Rick, Monica, and Cecily fall short, and clearly it was almost an impossible job to fill the shoes of the once powerful team of Mark Howard, and Lisa Thomas-Laury anyway. So I guess you could say by default that newcast went downhill. However content wise it has really gone to hell. I guess with a leadin like Oprah, and trying to keep those viewers from switching to Dr.Phil, 6 had no choice but make the newscast appeal to women (NBC 10 does the same, and KYW aswell at 4:00), but its so bad. Action news was the last to get a "breaking news" graphic. They make up for it at 5:00, as almost anytime you watch the 5:00pm edition of AC, you will see it about 6 times. Unless a major story, the leads stories are almost always fluff stories. Oh, I almost forgot. Ontop of Mark Howard, and Lisa Thomas-Laury, they use to have Scott Palmer doing sports. Now they have Jamie Apody, who has a voice that should never be on TV. Or worse Mr. I have to paint of picture of the sporting event i'm about to report, before I can tell it. Otherwise known as Keith Russell. Seriously this guy leads off, by paint us a picture, before he reports 'Imagine how it must feel if your Ryan Howard, your parents are in the stands, and you can win the ballgame with a HR on a guy who always strikes you out. Thats exactly how the big man felt today, right before he crushed a game winning HR...'

6pm, is still up there with the standard all of action news once had. Weekends ofcoarse have Keith Russell, but have improved with rising star Adam Joseph at the same time. Jim is still the gold standard.

11pm is still good, but abit more sensationalized with its frequent "special reports". Unbearable to watch during sweeps. Oh, and I know Jim is an a-hole in realife, but even when that bleeds threw on TV, he comes out good. Take last week for example, and Dann Cuellar annual Thanksgiving day parade preview. Jim intros it by saying "...and if not getting bigger each year, it most certainly takes up more airtime..."

Moving onto some key people at ch6.
Monica Malpass, brings nothing to 6 anymore, and I think ch6 is getting tried of her ish. Fire her, and move sombody else in quick. Her fake chipmunk laugh alone make me want to change the channel.

Cecily Tynan was once a rising star at ch6, and they qucikly promoted her, from weekends, to mornings, to events, to evenings. Clearly she is the person they plan to replace Dave Roberts, and if ch6 couldn't be happier. Well atleast maybe back in 2003. Since then Cecily's reps has gone down the tube. Her likabilty has been slowly falling too. At the same time, ch6 has hired a new rising star in Adam Joseph. The time may come someday, inwhich Cecily is either sent back to mornings, or doesn't have her contract renewed. Maybe 6 should look into doing this sooner then later.

Overall, I still think ch6 is the best of the big 3. However only slightly. Ch3 is close, and could pass 6, if they wern't so up there own butts. When I watch 3 at 4:00, 6:00 and/or 11:00 I can feel the smugness radiate threw, and ofcoarse there's alot of other things too, but my dinner is done, so I have to rush this. I will say one thing, I think 3 has a great noon broadcast...however noon is the least important newscast of the day, so maybe thats there biggest problem.

Anyway bottomline. To answer the long standing question of when will action news finally lose 1st place (for good). Altough only a short few years ago this would be unknown, today its clear. Ch6 will nolonger be #1 in the first ratings period after Jim Gardner is gone.
 
I know I am being baited here, but let's give this a go.

Action News is the worst newscast I have seen anywhere in the English speaking world.
There is an inherent phoniness to the broadcast like you are watching actors put on a show and not a newscast.
James Goldman, their big star comes across as pompous, phony and fake. It is like he is some sort of robot. When Gary Papa revealed that his cancer had relapsed, Goldman acted like a five year old and cracked bad jokes. That proves that he is a self centered unprofessional. I have met Mr. Goldman in person before and he is an @$$.

In fact none of the people on the station seem in any way likeable. They did get rid of SallyAnn Mosey, who seemed like she was an actual nice real person. Whatever happened to her? Perhaps they have a thing against people who come across as humans and not some sort of pod people.

The music is a joke. 1972 called, they want their news theme back.

The presentation is a joke and is very dated. They have reporters reporting and it says "via satellite" like it was 1982 and it was some new and novel thing. Then when the reporter is reporting in the area they are on the "action cam" - something that sounds straight out of 1975.

The set can be best described as budget Maffia. The fake crystal city thing looks like they got it off of the Sopranos.

The quality of the reporting is a joke as well as the stories they cover.
Let's pepper the newscast with useless stories of no real value!
Let's waste time in the 11 p.m. newscast with a several minute production number about are silly parade.
Let's cover fires, car accidents, and murders!
Let's have special reports about text messaging that reveals things everyone knows, but make it seem earth shatteringly important and urgent.
Let's go crazy about sports! Especially football!

I have no idea why anyone watches this garbage.
It is the lowest in the cesspool that is Philadelphia television news.

Now to the original poster: What do you think?
 
hahah, I knew your reply would be good for a laugh.
Nertz! said:
Action News is the worst newscast I have seen anywhere in the English speaking world.
Wow, you must not been many places. Action news here in Philly, isn't even close to being the worse action news in America. The one in Cleveland for example had a former Philly reporter go nude for a ratings. The action news in Tampa is nothing more then pure tabloid. Their most popular news feature is dirty dinning. They give out awards to the ones they find clean.


James Goldman, their big star comes across as pompous, phony and fake. It is like he is some sort of robot.
Please, Jim Gardner is the first anchor in Philly who will onair turn off the smile when someone isn't doing their job, and make a smartass remark. See, I left it open for you to continue your hating. Aren't I nice?

When Gary Papa revealed that his cancer had relapsed, Goldman acted like a five year old and cracked bad jokes. That proves that he is a self centered unprofessional. I have met Mr. Goldman in person before and he is an @$$.
No, Gardner went candid and made jokes that didn't upset Papa at all. You, and those tvnewstalk people don't seem to know that friends sometimes joke like that. Both also seem not to realize that papa and Gardner are friends. I guess Gardner should've been umm whats that? Oh I know pompous, phony and fake.by putting on a sad face, saying onair "your gonna make it man" maybe held his hand. Then when offair joke around with him to make him feel better.

In fact none of the people on the station seem in any way likeable. They did get rid of SallyAnn Mosey, who seemed like she was an actual nice real person. Whatever happened to her? Perhaps they have a thing against people who come across as humans and not some sort of pod people.
SallyAnn left wpvi on her own, because WNBC in New York offered her a job, which included possible guest weather spots on the weekend edition of the today show.

the people at 6 are no different then the people at the other stations. Some are very nice, while some are complete a-holes. Oddly enough SallyAnn is one of the ones i've met, and she came off as a complete *itch, but she had a good reason, so I won't offically label her as one.

The presentation is a joke and is very dated. They have reporters reporting and it says "via satellite" like it was 1982 and it was some new and novel thing. Then when the reporter is reporting in the area they are on the "action cam" - something that sounds straight out of 1975.
Most tv stations (and all the cable news networks) put via satellite when they're using a satellite feed

The set can be best described as budget Maffia. The fake crystal city thing looks like they got it off of the Sopranos.

The quality of the reporting is a joke as well as the stories they cover.
Let's pepper the newscast with useless stories of no real value!
Let's waste time in the 11 p.m. newscast with a several minute production number about are silly parade.
Let's cover fires, car accidents, and murders!
Let's have special reports about text messaging that reveals things everyone knows, but make it seem earth shatteringly important and urgent.
Let's go crazy about sports! Especially football!
You know, for someone who think action news is the worst english speaking newscast ever seen. You sure seem to know alot about them, and recent things they have covered. You sure your not a closet action news fan? Come on out, its ok. We won't laugh at you if you admit you like action news. Or maybe, you were once an action news/Jim Gardner fan, you met him, he told you to f-off (you should've waited until he finshed eating his meal), and thats why you put on this hate for 6, and Gardner, but in reality you really hate yourself, because you still find yourself watching Action news? Ok, maybe not. Anyway, most of that again is done by everystation. Murders, car chases, football, oh, and don't forget the Phillies.

I have no idea why anyone watches this garbage.
It is the lowest in the cesspool that is Philadelphia television news.
Because the garbage on the other stations, such as Alycia Lane on Dr.Phil for sweeps, or an NBC10 reporter using a news report for personal revenge ( http://www.nbc10.com/news/13492303/detail.html?rss=phi&psp=news ) is just as bad, and sometimes worse.
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I knew Julius' Nertz baiting post would be good.

Now a bit of a reality check here. I think Nertz wasn't talking about newscasts named Action News, but newscasts in general.

Irishfl said:
Nertz! said:
In fact none of the people on the station seem in any way likeable. They did get rid of SallyAnn Mosey, who seemed like she was an actual nice real person. Whatever happened to her? Perhaps they have a thing against people who come across as humans and not some sort of pod people.
SallyAnn left wpvi on her own, because WNBC in New York offered her a job, which included possible guest weather spots on the weekend edition of the today show.

the people at 6 are no different then the people at the other stations. Some are very nice, while some are complete a-holes. Oddly enough SallyAnn is one of the ones i've met, and she came off as a complete *itch, but she had a good reason, so I won't offically label her as one.

I have met SallyAnn and had a nice conversation with her. OK it was at WNBC, but she is a very nice person and from what I have seen of her (I am not usually up that early on the weekend so I normally see here if she is filling in for someone else) she is pretty good on air.

Irishfl said:
Nertz! said:
The presentation is a joke and is very dated. They have reporters reporting and it says "via satellite" like it was 1982 and it was some new and novel thing. Then when the reporter is reporting in the area they are on the "action cam" - something that sounds straight out of 1975.
Most tv stations (and all the cable news networks) put via satellite when they're using a satellite feed

I beg to differ on this point. About the only time I see "via anything" is if it is "via videophone" since the video quality tends to be a bit dodgy due to bandwith issues.

The typical phrase that things are labeled with is "Live" so there is no designation between if it is coming from a live truck, off the bird or via cables from the observation deck on top of the building. Saying "via satellite" is an anachronism dating back to the era of wide lapels and having your news crews drive around in Plymouth Satellites. The only place I have seen it done in this century on a newscast has been on WPVI.

As for my thoughts on WPVI's Action News it can be best summed up like this - It is a newscast that seems like a bad community theatre production of Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy complete with 1970s vintage music.

The station is just utter rubbish and just one of the strange unfathomable things about Philadelphia that people who aren't in on the joke don't get. Is it supposed to be this so serious and filled to the brim with faux gravitas news cast for comedy value? If so it is like a Saturday Night Live skit that has run for way too long. I am just glad I don't have to watch it!
 
What I like about Action News is its consistency. Yeah, the theme music is the same but it's familiar to the viewers. Stations that change their theme music and set and/or their anchors every year or two don't have that consistency and bond with their audience. WPVI doesn't go along with every trend that consultants toss out. In an era where broadcast consultants have way too much influence over what goes on the air, that's refreshing.
 
Ahhh WPVI where to begin? The news theme is so bad, its good. WKBW in Buffalo used the same news theme until 2003, and I believe WNEP still does, though their modernized version is a heck of lot better. As for the news, its the same typical mediocre filler content. Not a fan of Jim Garnder either, his on-screen presence isn't very appealing, and I don't find his jabs at humor funny. Remember when he sawed the news desk? WFMZ remains the region's best newscast.
 
Vandelay said:
Irishfl said:
Nertz! said:
The presentation is a joke and is very dated. They have reporters reporting and it says "via satellite" like it was 1982 and it was some new and novel thing. Then when the reporter is reporting in the area they are on the "action cam" - something that sounds straight out of 1975.
Most tv stations (and all the cable news networks) put via satellite when they're using a satellite feed

I beg to differ on this point. About the only time I see "via anything" is if it is "via videophone" since the video quality tends to be a bit dodgy due to bandwith issues.

Saying "via satellite" is an anachronism dating back to the era of wide lapels and having your news crews drive around in Plymouth Satellites. The only place I have seen it done in this century on a newscast has been on WPVI.

I'm surprised anyone still uses the phrase "via satellite" (I live in Tampa Bay) -- that phrase went out about 15 years ago, as satellites are very commonplace, and most stations either have a sat truck, or access to one. It's so commonplace, that stations now use them not only for distant newsmakers, but also for local stories -- recently, when I was in Orlando, I passed by the courthouse downtown with a satellite truck parked in front. The truck belonged to WFTV, Orlando's ABC affiliate, who's studio is close to the downtown area (where the courthouse is).
 
Irishfl said:
hahah, I knew your reply would be good for a laugh.
Nertz! said:
Action News is the worst newscast I have seen anywhere in the English speaking world.
Wow, you must not been many places. Action news here in Philly, isn't even close to being the worse action news in America. The one in Cleveland for example had a former Philly reporter go nude for a ratings. The action news in Tampa is nothing more then pure tabloid. Their most popular news feature is dirty dinning. They give out awards to the ones they find clean.

I did not specify Action News, I said "Action News is the worst newscast I have seen anywhere in the English speaking world."
I did not say "Action News is the worst Action News I have seen anywhere in the English speaking world."
Although that would be true, too.

James Goldman, their big star comes across as pompous, phony and fake. It is like he is some sort of robot.
Please, Jim Gardner is the first anchor in Philly who will onair turn off the smile when someone isn't doing their job, and make a smartass remark. See, I left it open for you to continue your hating. Aren't I nice?
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Making smart ass remarks is not the sign of a true professional.

Irishfl said:
When Gary Papa revealed that his cancer had relapsed, Goldman acted like a five year old and cracked bad jokes. That proves that he is a self centered unprofessional. I have met Mr. Goldman in person before and he is an @$$.
No, Gardner went candid and made jokes that didn't upset Papa at all. You, and those tvnewstalk people don't seem to know that friends sometimes joke like that. Both also seem not to realize that papa and Gardner are friends. I guess Gardner should've been umm whats that? Oh I know pompous, phony and fake.by putting on a sad face, saying onair "your gonna make it man" maybe held his hand. Then when offair joke around with him to make him feel better.
It did not seem genuine and of course it seamed pomous and phony.

The presentation is a joke and is very dated. They have reporters reporting and it says "via satellite" like it was 1982 and it was some new and novel thing. Then when the reporter is reporting in the area they are on the "action cam" - something that sounds straight out of 1975.
Most tv stations (and all the cable news networks) put via satellite when they're using a satellite feed
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Others have proved you wrong. Perhaps you should get out of Philadelphia once and awhile.
 
Nertz! said:
The presentation is a joke and is very dated. They have reporters reporting and it says "via satellite" like it was 1982 and it was some new and novel thing. Then when the reporter is reporting in the area they are on the "action cam" - something that sounds straight out of 1975.
Most tv stations (and all the cable news networks) put via satellite when they're using a satellite feed

Others have proved you wrong. Perhaps you should get out of Philadelphia once and awhile.
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Nope, I spend almost as much time out of Philly as in and I cannot recall the last time I saw "via satellite" like that. Probably around 1985. Which is still years ahead of Action News' presentation. Except when it comes to inserting junk and calling it "news." Crap like "Dancing with the Stars" did not qualify as "news" back then. Too bad it does now.
 
It's hard to say what newscast is the "worst in the English-speaking world" because there are so many bad newscasts, and so many of them are really bad. I don't think you can even nominate a best newscast in Philly or New York, all you can go for is least worst.

I find Larry Mendte and Renee Chenault most obnoxious to the point I can't see how they are allowed on the air. Renee decides to pull a Murphy Brown and have a baby artificially and it gets covered as news. She marries a guy who runs for mayor is allowed to stay on. Donna Hanover was married to Rudy Giuliani when he ran for Mayor and channel 11 took her off the air (wonder why the different treatment?). They are the only ones who stand out. The rest are all Stepford drones.

The only news show that even tries to be a news broadcast is channel 69. Maybe they can't afford frills and consultants so they just do news.
 
Action News is still the best newscast in Philly, but I must give kudos to CBS3 for their comittment to improving their news product. I think the key with channel 3 is that they now have an established anchor team and a solid reporting staff. Even their weekend coverage has been solidified. Let's not even mention tabloid 10.
 
Why even keep Renee? She comes in for 30 minutes or so?

She never seems to do any special reports or increase her name at the station
 
Hokey Smokes Bullwinkle! Tell us what you really think Nertz! Stop holding back!
 
I actually like the 70's music, and the fact that many of the same people have been there for years. Having said that, i agree with others on this thread, that the quality of their newscast has suffered in recent years. It seems like they are now going for style over substance. It started when they axed traffic guy John Valerio in favor of Karen Rogers, who doesn't know the area roads. Not her fault. She didn't ask to do traffic. But channel 6 should have known better. John Valerio (and for that matter, that radio guy who filled in for him, Jason Leigh), knew what they were talking about. Karen does not.

The morning show is pretty bad. Tamala Edwards may be a good reader when it comes to anchoring, but she has no personality, which is kind of important on a morning show. Matt O'Donnell is good, and I think he's a rising star. But overall, I don't like the morning show.

And generally, it seems like their newer reporters come across as being inexperienced, which is something you couldn't say about Action News years ago.

Of course, all this doesn't matter. They are number 1, and will probably stay that way.
 
Viewers get the so-called "news" they deserve. The downslide started when newscasts turned into newsshows. Forget content. It's more important how the anchors and reporters look than anything they say. Every TV station in this market has below disgraceful people on the air so to name a few doesn't mean anything.
It's not just local news that's garbage. National news is too busy plugging network news magazines and other shows to worry about actual reporting.
Until viewers stop being so damn lazy and get their news elsewhere....online, newspapers, radio...It's all out there. Want weather? Ten seconds online tells you all you need to know. People need to change their habits and realize they can get news etc. anytime they want it rather than wait for the crap at ten and eleven..and all other times.
Rowan And Martin's "Laugh-In" used to open their "news" with singers and dancers doing the song, "What's The News Across The Nation" etc. NBC has a jingle they run around 6:50pm. We're almost there.
In the 50's, SF writer Philip K. Dick had a minor recurring character called Jim The News Clown. He appeared on TV in full clown makeup. We're almost there too.
 
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