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WPYT AM 660 power increase
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What does this station do, play the Michael Jackson song over and over again?
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Radio_Realist
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What does this station do,
It's not a question of what it does, it's a question of who does it. The station is run by a local radio "living legend", so to the radio pros who post in here, it can do no wrong. To people who don't frequent radio discussion forums on the internet, 660 is the spot on the dial in between 650 and 670 -- nothing more. The only people who know what's on 660 are the handful who listen to it. If you aren't a radio enthusiast, odds are you've not only never heard it, you've never even heard of it.
It's not a question of what it does, it's a question of who does it. The station is run by a local radio "living legend", so to the radio pros who post in here, it can do no wrong. To people who don't frequent radio discussion forums on the internet, 660 is the spot on the dial in between 650 and 670 -- nothing more. The only people who know what's on 660 are the handful who listen to it. If you aren't a radio enthusiast, odds are you've not only never heard it, you've never even heard of it.
Radio_Realist said:
Ur, you seem to be making a thinly-veiled, totally-uncalled-for and, sigh, incorrectly directed attack at the Operations Manager of 620/770 AM. *You* frequent these discussions and we at least expect that you would know that neither 620 or 770 are spots on the dial between 650 and 670.
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Ur, you seem to be making a thinly-veiled, totally-uncalled-for and, sigh, incorrectly directed attack at the Operations Manager of 620/770 AM.
Calling someone a "Living Legend" is hardly an attack, veiled or otherwise. However, confusing 660 with 620 was an error on my part.
Calling someone a "Living Legend" is hardly an attack, veiled or otherwise. However, confusing 660 with 620 was an error on my part.
Radio_Realist said:
Perhaps I should not have construed your language that way, although I took it as sarcastic given your comment that the credentials were unimportant except to "insiders" and don't translate to value for advertisers, listeners and management. Moreover, it seemed odd to me to force this person's credentials into a technical thread about a CP on a low-frequency AM whose ranges has now been significantly improved. Your thoughts are your thoughts, though; I merely wanted the record straight about the ownership, management and frequencies and my apologies if I mistook the rationale for your post.
It was intended as a sarcastic cheap shot at Clarke, as well as people who enjoy a DJ presence. RR likes to take these pissy little shots, but then he runs away from them when someone calls him on it. His act is beyond stale and has chased people from this board.
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I took it as sarcastic given your comment that the credentials were unimportant except to "insiders" and don't translate to value for advertisers, listeners and management.
My comment was that credentials are relatively unimportant to listeners. I never said that advertisers and management personnel weren't impressed by them. Anyone who understands the audience realizes that no entertainer can simply rest on his laurels. Whether it's a DJ, a stand-up comic, a movie star, a recording artist, or any other type of performer, audiences decide whether or not to pay attention to their new performances based on how entertaining they are now. If that were not so, then MC Hammer would still be a star.
Moreover, it seemed odd to me to force this person's credentials into a technical thread about a CP on a low-frequency AM whose ranges has now been significantly improved.
Excuse me for misunderstanding. I didn't realize this thread was intended to be a discussion of what brand of transmitter WPYT was going to start using. Given the brevity of the launch post, I had thought the thread might develop along the lines of how the increase in power and consequent increase in coverage area might translate to changes in WPYT's programming. And, as the usual participants in here all seem to enjoy repeating (and repeating and repeating) their mantras about how all it will take to capitalize on the increased coverage area is better imaging and jingles, I repeated by own mantra about how it doesn't much matter what you put over the air if you don't also do something to let potential listeners know why they should tune their radios to your station.
Perhaps my reference clear and unambiguous for some people to grasp. The thing is, all of the AM stations except for a handful seem to go out of their way to make sure no one knows what they are broadcasting. Then, the usual participants lament about how AM stations can't draw listeners because younger listeners don't know how to change their radios to the AM band. I did confuse 620 and 660 with each other, as both of those stations share that same characteristic. The owners of both stations act as if it would be a catastrophe if potential listeners were to actually find out that they might enjoy tuning into those stations.
It was intended as a sarcastic cheap shot at Clarke,
No, it was intended as a sarcastic cheap shot at the usual participants who get into high dudgeon when anyone points out that the emperor is stark naked. There's nothing wrong with running a radio station as a hobby, or with hiring someone who used to be well known to recreate a now out-of-fashion radio format. What I take sarcastic shots at are those who claim that AM radio can't be successful for one hogwash reason or another instead of accepting the truth that almost anything can be sold to the public if one makes the effort to sell it using methods that work.
I do not disrespect Clarke for recreating nostalgic radio for a handful of people who enjoy that sort if thing. I see it as little different from the entertainers who have turned Branson, Missouri into a Mecca for senior citizens who long for old-fashioned live entertainment. It is good that old codgers can tune in 620 to hear radio as it used to be, and it's also good that those same codgers can take a bus to Branson to see the Osmonds perform their old act from the 1970's.
His act is beyond stale
This from the person who believes that younger listeners don't know how to change the band on their radios to AM.
My comment was that credentials are relatively unimportant to listeners. I never said that advertisers and management personnel weren't impressed by them. Anyone who understands the audience realizes that no entertainer can simply rest on his laurels. Whether it's a DJ, a stand-up comic, a movie star, a recording artist, or any other type of performer, audiences decide whether or not to pay attention to their new performances based on how entertaining they are now. If that were not so, then MC Hammer would still be a star.
Moreover, it seemed odd to me to force this person's credentials into a technical thread about a CP on a low-frequency AM whose ranges has now been significantly improved.
Excuse me for misunderstanding. I didn't realize this thread was intended to be a discussion of what brand of transmitter WPYT was going to start using. Given the brevity of the launch post, I had thought the thread might develop along the lines of how the increase in power and consequent increase in coverage area might translate to changes in WPYT's programming. And, as the usual participants in here all seem to enjoy repeating (and repeating and repeating) their mantras about how all it will take to capitalize on the increased coverage area is better imaging and jingles, I repeated by own mantra about how it doesn't much matter what you put over the air if you don't also do something to let potential listeners know why they should tune their radios to your station.
Perhaps my reference clear and unambiguous for some people to grasp. The thing is, all of the AM stations except for a handful seem to go out of their way to make sure no one knows what they are broadcasting. Then, the usual participants lament about how AM stations can't draw listeners because younger listeners don't know how to change their radios to the AM band. I did confuse 620 and 660 with each other, as both of those stations share that same characteristic. The owners of both stations act as if it would be a catastrophe if potential listeners were to actually find out that they might enjoy tuning into those stations.
It was intended as a sarcastic cheap shot at Clarke,
No, it was intended as a sarcastic cheap shot at the usual participants who get into high dudgeon when anyone points out that the emperor is stark naked. There's nothing wrong with running a radio station as a hobby, or with hiring someone who used to be well known to recreate a now out-of-fashion radio format. What I take sarcastic shots at are those who claim that AM radio can't be successful for one hogwash reason or another instead of accepting the truth that almost anything can be sold to the public if one makes the effort to sell it using methods that work.
I do not disrespect Clarke for recreating nostalgic radio for a handful of people who enjoy that sort if thing. I see it as little different from the entertainers who have turned Branson, Missouri into a Mecca for senior citizens who long for old-fashioned live entertainment. It is good that old codgers can tune in 620 to hear radio as it used to be, and it's also good that those same codgers can take a bus to Branson to see the Osmonds perform their old act from the 1970's.
His act is beyond stale
This from the person who believes that younger listeners don't know how to change the band on their radios to AM.
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FreddyE1977
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Snafu said:
...and it is now in a fair-fight with my daughter's hair dryer ;D
According to Wikipedia, the station is owned by Langer Broadcasting, Framingham, Massachusetts, which owns National Radio Network (NRN). NRN syndicates talk programming, mostly produced by other networks, such as the USA Radio Network and Cable Radio Network. Per the same source, WPYT is a move-in from Portage and is liscensed to Wilkensburg
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Not surprising at all. I was Ops mgr at a 750am in Northeast Pa.....rugged terrain and only a daytimer at 1200 watts and it has the best signal of all the AM's here.
It STILL after all these years, and with an electrically short antenna, sounds fantastic and clear.....I've heard this station 30 miles away with that power and antenna.
So, it is very very doable
It STILL after all these years, and with an electrically short antenna, sounds fantastic and clear.....I've heard this station 30 miles away with that power and antenna.
So, it is very very doable
I could be wrong on this, but I don't see any application for nighttime authorization for this station. I think it's going to take more than a daytime-only signal to pull this station out of the doldrums, notwithstanding the power increase.
I think they still have their nighttime stick in Portage, believe it or not.
Somehow it appears that they submitted an engineering study that showed Wilkinsburg within the original coverage area from Portage, or at least made circles overlap enough that the FCC bought it and allowed the move-in.
Somehow it appears that they submitted an engineering study that showed Wilkinsburg within the original coverage area from Portage, or at least made circles overlap enough that the FCC bought it and allowed the move-in.
Parttimer said:
Lot of good that does, considering the two communities are almost 100 miles apart from each other. That stick in Portage where they once broadcast on 1470 is still sitting dead, to my knowledge.
John Longo should take advantage of that opportunity to double his daytime power for WCNS. He already broadcasts 1,000 watts at night, and he could stay at that power around the clock and have much better coverage...not to mention look much better on paper when it comes time to sell it. All he'd have to do is file the paperwork.
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