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I saw on the FCC web site that WRGC has come to an agreement with Anderson Communications for the 540AM channel to be assigned to WRGC in Sylva. Anyone have the scopp or poop on this transaction?

Art, if you see this fill us in.
 
> I saw on the FCC web site that WRGC has come to an agreement
> with Anderson Communications for the 540AM channel to be
> assigned to WRGC in Sylva. Anyone have the scopp or poop on
> this transaction?

> Art, if you see this fill us in.


It's been in the works. Art can fill in. This frequency will be way better even with flea power at night than 680 ever could. But, hmm....ART! Drop me a note.


Powell
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I also saw this on the FCC website today, but it appeared it was only an applicaton. Maybe it has been granted, because it also appeared that the 540 was going to be daytime only--I didn't see an entry for night power. I am most likely confused(and didn't understand what I was seeing), so I do hope someone will provide more detailed info.
 
> I also saw this on the FCC website today, but it appeared it
> was only an applicaton. Maybe it has been granted, because
> it also appeared that the 540 was going to be daytime
> only--I didn't see an entry for night power. I am most
> likely confused(and didn't understand what I was seeing), so
> I do hope someone will provide more detailed info.

There will be some night power level. The FCC does not approve daytimers anymore.

Powell
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Unofficially...

...'cause it ain't my radio station, but my sources tell me it's a done deal, for the most part. One obstacle is out of the way, but another matter has to be taken care of.

You know, watching Douglas MacArthur Sutton, Jr. wheel and deal is almost as entertaining watching as Bobby get the upper hand on brother J.R. Lewing (doesn't he mean Ewing?). I'll betcha it'll have a nice "ring" to it.

And yes, as it now stands, it is a daytimer. When changing frequencies on an existing station, a fulltimer can go to daytime only. That said, I'm sure that an application for night operation will be filed.

Damn! I was so tickled when Art bought the station. Every year, when we'd pass through Sylva on our way to Lake Junaluska, seeing those towers so badly in need of painting, would just piss me off.

Less that 10 minutes after the sale was closed, Art had the towers painted. Now, they'll come down...with all that fresh paint on them!<P ID="signature">______________
Jay Braswell - Moderator
Atlanta/North Florida/South Carolina/Georgia Boards</P>
 
Re: Unofficially...

> You know, watching Douglas MacArthur Sutton, Jr. wheel and
> deal is almost as entertaining watching as Bobby get the
> upper hand on brother J.R. Lewing (doesn't he mean Ewing?).
> I'll betcha it'll have a nice "ring" to it.


Oh, one of Art's favorite phrases...."Where's my pad?"


Art can fill us in on that one.

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Phraseology

> Oh, one of Art's favorite phrases...."Where's my pad?"

His empire has now grown to be so vast, he also now asks things like "Did we buy or sell any stations today?", and "We didn't buy or sell any from no preachers, did we?", and "Where the hell is Jackass Flats, Arkansas?", and, of course, "Braswell said WHAT?"!<P ID="signature">______________
Jay Braswell - Moderator
Atlanta/North Florida/South Carolina/Georgia Boards</P>
 
Re: Phraseology

> > Oh, one of Art's favorite phrases...."Where's my pad?"
>
> His empire has now grown to be so vast, he also now asks
> things like "Did we buy or sell any stations today?", and
> "We didn't buy or sell any from no preachers, did we?", and
> "Where the hell is Jackass Flats, Arkansas?", and, of
> course, "Braswell said WHAT?"!

LOL! BTW you don't want to be the recepient of a "Where's my Pad!?"

And where IS my pad?

Powell

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It takes resistors to make a pad

> LOL! BTW you don't want to be the recepient of a "Where's my
> Pad!?"

> And where IS my pad?

I'll betcha Tom's got it. He just looks like a pad thief!

And speaking of pads, let's not forget that "Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls, But Violet Gives Willingly" <P ID="signature">______________
Jay Braswell - Moderator
Atlanta/North Florida/South Carolina/Georgia Boards</P>
 
Re: It takes resistors to make a pad

> > LOL! BTW you don't want to be the recepient of a "Where's
> my
> > Pad!?"
>
> > And where IS my pad?
>
> I'll betcha Tom's got it. He just looks like a pad thief!
>
> And speaking of pads, let's not forget that "Bad Boys Rape
> Our Young Girls, But Violet Gives Willingly"



*I* know what that is but I am not telling. I'm RESISTING the urge though.


Powell
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Re: It takes resistors to make a pad

> > And speaking of pads, let's not forget that "Bad Boys Rape
> > Our Young Girls, But Violet Gives Willingly"

> *I* know what that is but I am not telling. I'm RESISTING
> the urge though.

It's all about the bands, man. And speaking of bands, how 'bout that new album from Odum P. Bluckenfutchett and his Round Top Rangers? I think "She's Got A Hog Jowel (In The Place Where Her Heart Ought To Be)", will hit the top of the chart.

Resisting is futile, continued reciprocity is welcomed, however.<P ID="signature">______________
Jay Braswell - Moderator
Atlanta/North Florida/South Carolina/Georgia Boards</P>
 
> I saw on the FCC web site that WRGC has come to an agreement
> with Anderson Communications for the 540AM channel to be
> assigned to WRGC in Sylva. Anyone have the scopp or poop on
> this transaction?
>
> Art, if you see this fill us in.
>
When we filed for 540 back in January 2004 following extensive signal measurements across western NC, eastern TN, SW VA and northeast GA...we had hoped to get the facility without opposition. However, at the same time, consulting engineer Chuck Anderson filed for 540 in Mascot, TN outside of Knoxville.

Chuck and I had until the end of October 2005, to reach a settlement for one or the other to withdraw and avoid a long and expensive legal fight at the FCC. The present 680 facility at WRGC came following about 10 years of fighting with the 680 station in Atlanta and another 5 years of trying to get the facility licensed after the four-lane cut through the ground system of the present facility. It wasn't an easy or inexpensive task that Jimmy Childress accomplished.

For many recent years, there have been ongoing discussions with 680 in Atlanta to have WRGC move to another channel so they could improve their own facility. Both WRGC and WCNN were granted their facilities when AM rules were different if you were the only AM station in a city as both WRGC and WCNN( North Atlanta, GA) are. Stations could receive interference from other stations on their channel. There is heavy interference between the two stations that has been grandfathered over the years.

We went ahead and settled with Chuck to keep the possibility of 540 open for Sylva.

Where we go now and how fast we get there has a lot to do with what WCNN in Atlanta does. We had hoped to have an agreement in place with them by October 31 but were unable to do so.

It's possible to get protected nighttime service on 540 at Sylva, with just two towers, at 250 watts with a very lazy pattern to the east and west. The null is actually to the south toward the Yucatan Peninsular to protect the Mexican Clear on 540 and there is protection required off to the Northwest for Canada. To the east, we have to protect the 540 east of Raleigh but the deepest null is only 125 watts so it would be a great nighttime signal as well. The issue is cost of building as the present site won't work and land in the Sylva area is extraordinarily expensive for a small market. We'd need nearly twenty acres for two towers. If Atlanta is willing to pay for the construction of our transmitter site, then we'll move quickly to switch channels. If not, we'll likely stay where we are because the cost of building the facility may not the practical for the market.

The benefit for Atlanta is they go non directional day and they could also locate back to their original midtown Atlanta transmitter site and have a much improved signal over the core of Atlanta. As long as WRGC is on 680, neither is possible.

Assuming everything goes as we would hope, I think the earliest sign on might be around November 2007 when WRGC turns 50.
 
THE SCOOP

The plan has been in the works for years. First heard about it almost two years ago when the filing with the FCC went in to place.

680 allowed WRGC to have nighttime coverage. I see NOTHING about nighttime coverage in the filings I have seen. Even though it would be nice to get really low wattage in town, like 'PFJ's 13 watts at night in Franklin. I know the area of town that's in...looks like the tower will be up on a good hill somewhere.

I would have rather the station stayed on 680, though. It has a history there, and it serves as the "county station". I think the reasoning is sorta flawed in putting on 540...yeah, you increase coverage area, but without proper nighttime coverage, it'll go to sh*t without proper promotions and selling--which have served as weaknesses for that station and its owners before.

But...it looks like they do have a reason for it.

It's an open secret that Sutton was wanting to bring an FM into Jackson County on 95.3 (where a translator for WCQS currently is located). The plans to get it in there fell through for some reason.

But that didn't stop him. He's trying to get 104.1 WRBN Clayton, GA (Sky 104) moved into Sylva. The proof is here:

http://www.recnet.com/cdbs/fmq.php?nprm=671787

He's also trying to get a station in southern Jackson County, licensed to Glenville on 105.7. You might see a potential conflict, though, with the Saga filing to move 105.9 from TN to Weaverville.

http://www.recnet.com/cdbs/fmq.php?nprm=613425

That being said, Sutton has tried getting 105.9 to become a Class A in Clyde.

http://www.recnet.com/cdbs/fmq.php?nprm=622470

Hate to burst anyone's bubble...but, again...nothing is secret when you file with the FCC.
 
Old History

First, let me get this out of the way. I'm an Art Sutton fan. I mostly like the way he does radio, definitely appreciate his passion for the historical aspects of the industry, have done business with his company, and consider him to be a friend.

Apparently MRD, your opinion of Mr. Sutton is 180 degrees in opposition to mine, and that's fine. To be sure, everyone has a right to their opinion.

Most of the stuff you've mentioned here, is not a secret. Indeed, as you have pointed out, it's right there on file with the FCC. History...not a scoop.

So, Art pushed to move WRGC from a kilowatt at 680, to 5kw on 540. To me, that seems to be a tremendous improvement. As for the nighttime, I would expect a lower power initially, but look for a more substantial dusk to dawn power level to come.

Okay, Art has pushed and shoved to get an FM in Jackson County, or in Sylva, to be precise. I'm at a loss to see how that's a bad thing.

As my daddy used to say, when you get to the nut cuttin', it all comes down to the numbers. Art owns and operates 13 radio stations, and seems to be making a pretty damned good living. How many stations do you own? Operate? Have a management position at?

That concludes this dismantling of the preceeding E)xcremental B)ullshit S)linging. THAT sings EBS in any damned key...sharp, flat or natural!<P ID="signature">______________
Jay Braswell - Moderator
Atlanta/North Florida/South Carolina/Georgia Boards</P>
 
Re: Old History

Did I say that I am not an Art Sutton fan? No.

First off...he did a good thing by getting WRGC. That station needed something else, and Art brought that to the station. But, I do have on reliable sources who are no longer familiar with the station that they had a rough time dealing with him and the corporate structure (I can go into specifics, but I'll be nice). And as a listener and observer of local radio, it showed itself on the air. While I wouldn't say that our views are 180 degrees separate from each other, they are more like 120 degrees (a mix of indifference and "holy sh*t").

As far as moving WRGC to 540...let me say this. I would rather have a 24 hour operation with lower power than a daytimer with a shitload of power. Again, I have seen nothing saying that it would have nighttime operation. But if he is bringing the FMs, that might be a muted point, but I would still take the 24 hour option on an AM...and possibly make it a news/talk or something like that and move the AC format...or something a little more rockin'...to the FM, whenever it comes in. Again, that's what I would do. But...I am not Art Sutton.

Besides, I am sure WPTF in Raleigh and WCNN in Atlanta would love to see them move so it could help their signals. And that could be part of the reason they are moving, too.

And as far as the stations I own--I own none, and have no desire to do so. I manage none--and have no desire to do so. But in my years in this industry, I do know how local radio can be run. I went from rural WNC to medium market radio in the southeast--and I work for a place that isn't part of any big radio conglomerate. The management structure I work for isn't concerned with ratings and making money as much as they are about putting out a good product (and on a rather tight budget)--and that is a whole lot more than I can say for some of the local radio station owners in WNC...and there are quite a few of those.

As far as any "digs" I took in my previous post about what you might have seen as a dig at Sutton, they weren't. In fact, I was making a dig more at the Childress' than anything else. They had a hard time with promotions and selling that station--this is a FACT. I know this was the case. A lot of it had to do with Uncle Jimmy's politics (though, I must admit, they are in line with mine). That trouble shifted over when they sold the station because many still saw it as "Uncle Jimmy's station"--the call letters didn't help either, being that the station's name comes from his son Ronnie, who was killed in a transmitter accident at the station in the 70s back when it was WMSJ (for those of you unfamiliar). And any digs that I do take at any station's ownership come from my desire to see them do more and do better...because they are capable of it. WNC is a bit of a cesspool when it comes to radio--mainly beause you can't get anything unless you're near a metro (thank you mountainous terrain). And--ya know what?--it's a damn shame.

As far as moving FM's in...the 95.3 frequency just couldn't work, I imagine, for a variety of reasons.

They tried moving 96.7 WNCC in Franklin to Cowee Mountain to get Sylva coverage, but I think Saga had a sh*it-fit when they thought it would interfere with WOXL (it really wouldn't have, because you can't get WOXL in Sylva...Balsam, yes, another story, but still...). It would have been nice to have seen that take place, though...but I would have changed the format because anything that goes up against 99.9 Kiss Country will have their problems (and country never really sold very well in Sylva).

I heard 104.1 WRBN was doing good where it is/was. I mean, hell, that signal, last time I checked, reached very well into at least 3 of Sutton's markets (4 if you count the outskirts of Sylva, and 5 if you count a little of Elberton). And moving 104.1 into Sylva might (emphasize MIGHT) cause Clear Channel to have a hissy-fit because of WQNQ on 104.3.

Nothing may be secret with the FCC, but I don't see any big discussions on this forum or anywhere else about it about the possiblity of it coming into town. Not very many people watch the FCC's website for updates on WNC radio...just saying. And WNC radio doesn't get enough coverage on this forum, anyway...this forum is for both Charlotte and WNC, and there's way too much stuff on here about stations that I can't get unless I am on the other side of Asheville.

I do watch the FCC stuff...but that's because I have nothing better to do on some occasions than look some stuff up about my good ole' hometown.

I'd like to know what sort of bullsh*t I was slinging, though. This stuff hadn't been mentioned on this forum before, and many might have been unfamiliar with it. Call it "producer's syndrome"--this coming from being that I am an actual producer and writer for several programs where I work. "Producer's syndrome" is where you suppose that the average person (be they on-air personality, listener, or viewer) just dropping by does not know the history behind a certain subject. I fill them in. And--yeah, I put in my two cents, but that's my right.

It was a scoop because no one had been talking about it. And...hell, if you put two and two together (moving 680 to 540, bring 104.1 in to Sylva), it adds up. Just sort of solidifying the connection here, that's it.
 
Re: Old History

> Did I say that I am not an Art Sutton fan? No.
>
> First off...he did a good thing by getting WRGC. That
> station needed something else, and Art brought that to the
> station. But, I do have on reliable sources who are no
> longer familiar with the station that they had a rough time
> dealing with him and the corporate structure (I can go into
> specifics, but I'll be nice). And as a listener and
> observer of local radio, it showed itself on the air. While
> I wouldn't say that our views are 180 degrees separate from
> each other, they are more like 120 degrees (a mix of
> indifference and "holy sh*t").
>
> As far as moving WRGC to 540...let me say this. I would
> rather have a 24 hour operation with lower power than a
> daytimer with a shitload of power. Again, I have seen
> nothing saying that it would have nighttime operation. But
> if he is bringing the FMs, that might be a muted point, but
> I would still take the 24 hour option on an AM...and
> possibly make it a news/talk or something like that and move
> the AC format...or something a little more rockin'...to the
> FM, whenever it comes in. Again, that's what I would do.
> But...I am not Art Sutton.
>
> Besides, I am sure WPTF in Raleigh and WCNN in Atlanta would
> love to see them move so it could help their signals. And
> that could be part of the reason they are moving, too.
>
> And as far as the stations I own--I own none, and have no
> desire to do so. I manage none--and have no desire to do
> so. But in my years in this industry, I do know how local
> radio can be run. I went from rural WNC to medium market
> radio in the southeast--and I work for a place that isn't
> part of any big radio conglomerate. The management
> structure I work for isn't concerned with ratings and making
> money as much as they are about putting out a good product
> (and on a rather tight budget)--and that is a whole lot more
> than I can say for some of the local radio station owners in
> WNC...and there are quite a few of those.
>
> As far as any "digs" I took in my previous post about what
> you might have seen as a dig at Sutton, they weren't. In
> fact, I was making a dig more at the Childress' than
> anything else. They had a hard time with promotions and
> selling that station--this is a FACT. I know this was the
> case. A lot of it had to do with Uncle Jimmy's politics
> (though, I must admit, they are in line with mine). That
> trouble shifted over when they sold the station because many
> still saw it as "Uncle Jimmy's station"--the call letters
> didn't help either, being that the station's name comes from
> his son Ronnie, who was killed in a transmitter accident at
> the station in the 70s back when it was WMSJ (for those of
> you unfamiliar). And any digs that I do take at any
> station's ownership come from my desire to see them do more
> and do better...because they are capable of it. WNC is a
> bit of a cesspool when it comes to radio--mainly beause you
> can't get anything unless you're near a metro (thank you
> mountainous terrain). And--ya know what?--it's a damn
> shame.
>
> As far as moving FM's in...the 95.3 frequency just couldn't
> work, I imagine, for a variety of reasons.
>
> They tried moving 96.7 WNCC in Franklin to Cowee Mountain to
> get Sylva coverage, but I think Saga had a sh*it-fit when
> they thought it would interfere with WOXL (it really
> wouldn't have, because you can't get WOXL in Sylva...Balsam,
> yes, another story, but still...). It would have been nice
> to have seen that take place, though...but I would have
> changed the format because anything that goes up against
> 99.9 Kiss Country will have their problems (and country
> never really sold very well in Sylva).
>
> I heard 104.1 WRBN was doing good where it is/was. I mean,
> hell, that signal, last time I checked, reached very well
> into at least 3 of Sutton's markets (4 if you count the
> outskirts of Sylva, and 5 if you count a little of
> Elberton). And moving 104.1 into Sylva might (emphasize
> MIGHT) cause Clear Channel to have a hissy-fit because of
> WQNQ on 104.3.
>
> Nothing may be secret with the FCC, but I don't see any big
> discussions on this forum or anywhere else about it about
> the possiblity of it coming into town. Not very many people
> watch the FCC's website for updates on WNC radio...just
> saying. And WNC radio doesn't get enough coverage on this
> forum, anyway...this forum is for both Charlotte and WNC,
> and there's way too much stuff on here about stations that I
> can't get unless I am on the other side of Asheville.
>
> I do watch the FCC stuff...but that's because I have nothing
> better to do on some occasions than look some stuff up about
> my good ole' hometown.
>
> I'd like to know what sort of bullsh*t I was slinging,
> though. This stuff hadn't been mentioned on this forum
> before, and many might have been unfamiliar with it. Call
> it "producer's syndrome"--this coming from being that I am
> an actual producer and writer for several programs where I
> work. "Producer's syndrome" is where you suppose that the
> average person (be they on-air personality, listener, or
> viewer) just dropping by does not know the history behind a
> certain subject. I fill them in. And--yeah, I put in my
> two cents, but that's my right.
>
> It was a scoop because no one had been talking about it.
> And...hell, if you put two and two together (moving 680 to
> 540, bring 104.1 in to Sylva), it adds up. Just sort of
> solidifying the connection here, that's it.
>

Jay and MtnRadioMan....no offense taken as I actually enjoy these posts. I've long past the point of different opinions bothering me.

MtnRadioMan is a very bright guy and has a passion for radio not commonly found with someone his age. Our major difference was over the songs which should air over WRGC. Of those who once worked at WRGC, he's the one with the most natural talent. He just thought certain songs should air and I didn't..but he wasn't fired for it. In fact, none of the guys who worked with us, who also were worked for the Childress family were fired by us, they left. They each contributed a great deal to the station. None of them really spent that much time around me and we didn't know each other that well but I feel like everyone who comes along in a station, makes a contribution and moves it forward. People get other opportunities and move on.

Here are some facts.

As long as I own WRGC, it will continue to have nighttime operations regardless of which channel it operates on.

I also hope one day to bring Jackson County its own local FM service but WRGC will likely still remain the most popular station there. We don't have to have a FM there to make money.

As to Glenville and the Clyde filings, we were paid a good bit of money recently to dismiss those petitions along with WNCC's move to Cowee Bald. The plan for WNCC to put a signal over Jackson County was actually filed prior to my ownership of either WNCC or WRGC but I left it in the FCC system because I felt WNCC putting a signal over Sylva would diminish WKSF's ratings in Jackson County. It just so happens in the last ratings book, WRGC beat WKSF. I think with a better signal on WRGC, we'll do even better along with improved local programming and sales.

WRGC had more than its share of instability during our ownership...a fact that I am not proud because most of it has been self-induced. It was also a very emotional transaction for the Childress family which did not make our acquisition like others we have made. We've not paid as much attention to it as we needed to and frankly when Jimmy decided to sell, we really weren't "ready" to buy another station. But, I had tried for 15 years to buy it from him and didn't want to miss the chance.

WRGC has never lost a penny for us and has now returned to making a very solid and good profit for us. It's without a doubt, the most successful AM operation west of Asheville. I am very fond of the station and the market...in fact I always have been since I first visited the area as a kid.

MtnRadioMan, I'm going to create a company wide programming director's job to oversee the programming of all our stations. You should apply. I've always been impressed with your knowledge of that facet of this business. I'm a left brained kind of guy...but radio needs right minded people to be in the programming department. I also suspect that had we worked more together...we would have developed more respect for each other, especially had you not snuck some songs on the air that weren't on the playlist!

Drop me an email some time.
 
Re: Old History

> > Did I say that I am not an Art Sutton fan? No.
> >
> > First off...he did a good thing by getting WRGC. That
> > station needed something else, and Art brought that to the
>
> > station. But, I do have on reliable sources who are no
> > longer familiar with the station that they had a rough
> time
> > dealing with him and the corporate structure (I can go
> into
> > specifics, but I'll be nice). And as a listener and
> > observer of local radio, it showed itself on the air.
> While
> > I wouldn't say that our views are 180 degrees separate
> from
> > each other, they are more like 120 degrees (a mix of
> > indifference and "holy sh*t").
> >
> > As far as moving WRGC to 540...let me say this. I would
> > rather have a 24 hour operation with lower power than a
> > daytimer with a shitload of power. Again, I have seen
> > nothing saying that it would have nighttime operation. But
>
> > if he is bringing the FMs, that might be a muted point,
> but
> > I would still take the 24 hour option on an AM...and
> > possibly make it a news/talk or something like that and
> move
> > the AC format...or something a little more rockin'...to
> the
> > FM, whenever it comes in. Again, that's what I would do.
>
> > But...I am not Art Sutton.
> >
> > Besides, I am sure WPTF in Raleigh and WCNN in Atlanta
> would
> > love to see them move so it could help their signals. And
>
> > that could be part of the reason they are moving, too.
> >
> > And as far as the stations I own--I own none, and have no
> > desire to do so. I manage none--and have no desire to do
> > so. But in my years in this industry, I do know how local
>
> > radio can be run. I went from rural WNC to medium market
> > radio in the southeast--and I work for a place that isn't
> > part of any big radio conglomerate. The management
> > structure I work for isn't concerned with ratings and
> making
> > money as much as they are about putting out a good product
>
> > (and on a rather tight budget)--and that is a whole lot
> more
> > than I can say for some of the local radio station owners
> in
> > WNC...and there are quite a few of those.
> >
> > As far as any "digs" I took in my previous post about what
>
> > you might have seen as a dig at Sutton, they weren't. In
> > fact, I was making a dig more at the Childress' than
> > anything else. They had a hard time with promotions and
> > selling that station--this is a FACT. I know this was the
>
> > case. A lot of it had to do with Uncle Jimmy's politics
> > (though, I must admit, they are in line with mine). That
> > trouble shifted over when they sold the station because
> many
> > still saw it as "Uncle Jimmy's station"--the call letters
> > didn't help either, being that the station's name comes
> from
> > his son Ronnie, who was killed in a transmitter accident
> at
> > the station in the 70s back when it was WMSJ (for those of
>
> > you unfamiliar). And any digs that I do take at any
> > station's ownership come from my desire to see them do
> more
> > and do better...because they are capable of it. WNC is a
> > bit of a cesspool when it comes to radio--mainly beause
> you
> > can't get anything unless you're near a metro (thank you
> > mountainous terrain). And--ya know what?--it's a damn
> > shame.
> >
> > As far as moving FM's in...the 95.3 frequency just
> couldn't
> > work, I imagine, for a variety of reasons.
> >
> > They tried moving 96.7 WNCC in Franklin to Cowee Mountain
> to
> > get Sylva coverage, but I think Saga had a sh*it-fit when
> > they thought it would interfere with WOXL (it really
> > wouldn't have, because you can't get WOXL in
> Sylva...Balsam,
> > yes, another story, but still...). It would have been
> nice
> > to have seen that take place, though...but I would have
> > changed the format because anything that goes up against
> > 99.9 Kiss Country will have their problems (and country
> > never really sold very well in Sylva).
> >
> > I heard 104.1 WRBN was doing good where it is/was. I
> mean,
> > hell, that signal, last time I checked, reached very well
> > into at least 3 of Sutton's markets (4 if you count the
> > outskirts of Sylva, and 5 if you count a little of
> > Elberton). And moving 104.1 into Sylva might (emphasize
> > MIGHT) cause Clear Channel to have a hissy-fit because of
> > WQNQ on 104.3.
> >
> > Nothing may be secret with the FCC, but I don't see any
> big
> > discussions on this forum or anywhere else about it about
> > the possiblity of it coming into town. Not very many
> people
> > watch the FCC's website for updates on WNC radio...just
> > saying. And WNC radio doesn't get enough coverage on this
>
> > forum, anyway...this forum is for both Charlotte and WNC,
> > and there's way too much stuff on here about stations that
> I
> > can't get unless I am on the other side of Asheville.
> >
> > I do watch the FCC stuff...but that's because I have
> nothing
> > better to do on some occasions than look some stuff up
> about
> > my good ole' hometown.
> >
> > I'd like to know what sort of bullsh*t I was slinging,
> > though. This stuff hadn't been mentioned on this forum
> > before, and many might have been unfamiliar with it. Call
>
> > it "producer's syndrome"--this coming from being that I am
>
> > an actual producer and writer for several programs where I
>
> > work. "Producer's syndrome" is where you suppose that the
>
> > average person (be they on-air personality, listener, or
> > viewer) just dropping by does not know the history behind
> a
> > certain subject. I fill them in. And--yeah, I put in my
> > two cents, but that's my right.
> >
> > It was a scoop because no one had been talking about it.
> > And...hell, if you put two and two together (moving 680 to
>
> > 540, bring 104.1 in to Sylva), it adds up. Just sort of
> > solidifying the connection here, that's it.
> >
>
> Jay and MtnRadioMan....no offense taken as I actually enjoy
> these posts. I've long past the point of different opinions
> bothering me.
>
> MtnRadioMan is a very bright guy and has a passion for radio
> not commonly found with someone his age. Our major
> difference was over the songs which should air over WRGC. Of
> those who once worked at WRGC, he's the one with the most
> natural talent. He just thought certain songs should air and
> I didn't..but he wasn't fired for it. In fact, none of the
> guys who worked with us, who also were worked for the
> Childress family were fired by us, they left. They each
> contributed a great deal to the station. None of them really
> spent that much time around me and we didn't know each other
> that well but I feel like everyone who comes along in a
> station, makes a contribution and moves it forward. People
> get other opportunities and move on.
>
> Here are some facts.
>
> As long as I own WRGC, it will continue to have nighttime
> operations regardless of which channel it operates on.
>
> I also hope one day to bring Jackson County its own local FM
> service but WRGC will likely still remain the most popular
> station there. We don't have to have a FM there to make
> money.
>
> As to Glenville and the Clyde filings, we were paid a good
> bit of money recently to dismiss those petitions along with
> WNCC's move to Cowee Bald. The plan for WNCC to put a signal
> over Jackson County was actually filed prior to my ownership
> of either WNCC or WRGC but I left it in the FCC system
> because I felt WNCC putting a signal over Sylva would
> diminish WKSF's ratings in Jackson County. It just so
> happens in the last ratings book, WRGC beat WKSF. I think
> with a better signal on WRGC, we'll do even better along
> with improved local programming and sales.
>
> WRGC had more than its share of instability during our
> ownership...a fact that I am not proud because most of it
> has been self-induced. It was also a very emotional
> transaction for the Childress family which did not make our
> acquisition like others we have made. We've not paid as much
> attention to it as we needed to and frankly when Jimmy
> decided to sell, we really weren't "ready" to buy another
> station. But, I had tried for 15 years to buy it from him
> and didn't want to miss the chance.
>
> WRGC has never lost a penny for us and has now returned to
> making a very solid and good profit for us. It's without a
> doubt, the most successful AM operation west of Asheville. I
> am very fond of the station and the market...in fact I
> always have been since I first visited the area as a kid.
>
> MtnRadioMan, I'm going to create a company wide programming
> director's job to oversee the programming of all our
> stations. You should apply. I've always been impressed with
> your knowledge of that facet of this business. I'm a left
> brained kind of guy...but radio needs right minded people to
> be in the programming department. I also suspect that had we
> worked more together...we would have developed more respect
> for each other, especially had you not snuck some songs on
> the air that weren't on the playlist!
>
> Drop me an email some time.
>
Sorry, MtnRadioDude...not Man.
 
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>
> MtnRadioMan is a very bright guy and has a passion for radio
> not commonly found with someone his age. Our major
> difference was over the songs which should air over WRGC. Of
> those who once worked at WRGC, he's the one with the most
> natural talent. He just thought certain songs should air and
> I didn't..but he wasn't fired for it. In fact, none of the
> guys who worked with us, who also were worked for the
> Childress family were fired by us, they left. They each
> contributed a great deal to the station. None of them really
> spent that much time around me and we didn't know each other
> that well but I feel like everyone who comes along in a
> station, makes a contribution and moves it forward. People
> get other opportunities and move on.
>

In what is surely to be my shortest post ever...

huh?
 
Re: Old History

> Jay...I actually enjoy these posts.

Good entertainers (and defense attorneys) are usually very well paid. As such, in order to show your appreciation for the entertainment (or defense...doesn't matter), a small "gift" (A new BE 1kw AM transmitter, tuned to 1450, would do nicely) would be accepted with much gratitude. Remember, smart shoppers do their gift buying early...before the pre-Christmas rush. Additionally, orders should be placed early, in order to conclude the purchase before year's end. Contrary to the fond wishes of the IRS, gifts are tax deductible!

Okay, okay, O-K-A-Y! You don't have to be such an ol' Scrooge. Give me that old, worn out Vanguard (and the 20-V2), and we'll call it even. Gifts of old junk are also deductible. Watch out for that recapture, though.<P ID="signature">______________
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> MtnRadioMan, I'm going to create a company wide programming
> director's job to oversee the programming of all our
> stations. You should apply. I've always been impressed with
> your knowledge of that facet of this business. I'm a left
> brained kind of guy...but radio needs right minded people to
> be in the programming department. I also suspect that had we
> worked more together...we would have developed more respect
> for each other, especially had you not snuck some songs on
> the air that weren't on the playlist!
>
> Drop me an email some time.


How about Corporate Director of Engineering for me ??


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