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WRITER CALLS BOUNCE TV "UNINTERESTING" AND "BLACKFACE" TV

gregg75

gregg75

gregg75 said:
Now it might be uninteresting but BLACKFACE is going a bit far. He compares it with TV
One and BET (which he thinks do a far better job).

http://newsone.com/entertainment/newsonestaff4/bounce-tv-one-bet-black-television/
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Im not shock by that article. Newsone is parnter with TV One so I wonder who was gonna comment on the channel first either BET or TV One. Honestly Newsone is bored. When TV One first started all they had was reruns of 227 and Goodtimes. I agree they could offer more programming but what??? We already have majority of black shows on BET, Centric and TV One.
 
Cobb seems to be writing his curmudgeonly complaint for the sake of complaining. I doubt he understands just what it takes to get a network on the air.

He notes that his family has dropped cable for cheaper options online and over-the-air TV, yet can't quite connect that this may be the audience Bounce may be geared toward. Also, he uses his small sample size in Jacksonville, FL to imply that few people have heard of the channel--then specifically mentions another platform in the The Africa Channel that could be even more obscure.

Cobb's oddest complaints include his chiding Bounce for being 'uncreative' with its use of movies and shows, while in another breath listing several of the off-network shows and movies that the superiorly-funded BET and TVOne still use today. Both cable nets have advertising money AND cable subscription funds to fund the original programs they do have. And they'd have never been able to secure those audiences without relying on already-popular TV shows and films.

I can still remember when BET was proud to score quickly canceled sitcoms like "Homeroom" and "New Attitude", not to mention maybe 100 episodes of daytime soap "Generations". (And if you're having to Google or Bing those shows, that lends to my point.)
 
Isn't TV One just Bounce with sitcoms? He should give Bounce a break as they are only
two months old.

I'm sure Bounce will evolve and see that their model of movies, gospel and Soul Train is
just too small. Their affiliates will be asking for more and will probably get it. I don't think
the Bounce of 2015 will still be the same one we see today. They're bound to have an
affiliates meeting......and the first and main topic will be......when are we going to get
some more programs?
 
There are so many classic shows that would fit on Bounce: Webster, Benson, Diff'rent Strokes...
I don't know why these are never aired on Centric, TV One, or BET.
 
ansky212 said:
There are so many classic shows that would fit on Bounce: Webster, Benson, Diff'rent Strokes...
I don't know why these are never aired on Centric, TV One, or BET.
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Diff'rent Strokes and Benson aired on BET around 2008 for a year in the early mornings. It was when BET had a contract with Sony. Honestly I haven't watch Diff'rent Strokes since KCAL here in Los Angeles aired it in reruns in the early 90's Alot of those shows are probally not on the air in reruns today because of low ratings or burned out. Lots of them Moesha, The Parent Hood, In The House, Roc etc....
 
wdb2003 said:
ansky212 said:
There are so many classic shows that would fit on Bounce: Webster, Benson, Diff'rent Strokes...
I don't know why these are never aired on Centric, TV One, or BET.
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Diff'rent Strokes and Benson aired on BET around 2008 for a year in the early mornings. It was when BET had a contract with Sony. Honestly I haven't watch Diff'rent Strokes since KCAL here in Los Angeles aired it in reruns in the early 90's Alot of those shows are probally not on the air in reruns today because of low ratings or burned out. Lots of them Moesha, The Parent Hood, In The House, Roc etc....
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I've also noticed MTV2 picking up on shows geared towarsd African Americans also. Wayans Bros, In Living Color and Martin so far. I've never watched Boumce TV,but from the looks of the schedule it looks boring.
 
Viacoms shares those shows on most of their networks In Living Color airs on VH1 sometimes on the weekends and The Wayans Bros air on Centric. MTV2 just added Boys Meets World in the morning. They air it the same time ABC Family does at 7am. Im just waiting til KCOP airs it so I cant really judge it. All I wanna see is Soul Train reruns. BTW they are not airing the same 10 episodes Centric is airing
 
Just because a TV show has a black cast or a black character doesn't make it appeal to black people. Just the same way white shows can appeal to the black audience as well.

It's like saying all gay people want to watch "Will & Grace" only.

It's hard to come up with more than one TV station directed at a specific theme audience. Spanish stations survive because the language barrier can prevent cross over viewing. The black audience can only be split up so many times and it's going to be split between not TV One, Bounce, Centric and BET but those four stations PLUS all the traditional channels as well.
 
My perspective on Bounce is that of a white male but my first impression was that they were "pandering" to a Black audience instead of "appealing" to a Black audience. I doubt that they intended for it to be that way. And again, this is only my opinion, one which may not matter to their owners. Seems like they had an idea but it was half-baked.
 
ShawtyBlack_ATL said:
wdb2003 said:
ansky212 said:
There are so many classic shows that would fit on Bounce: Webster, Benson, Diff'rent Strokes...
I don't know why these are never aired on Centric, TV One, or BET.
Click to expand...

Diff'rent Strokes and Benson aired on BET around 2008 for a year in the early mornings. It was when BET had a contract with Sony. Honestly I haven't watch Diff'rent Strokes since KCAL here in Los Angeles aired it in reruns in the early 90's Alot of those shows are probally not on the air in reruns today because of low ratings or burned out. Lots of them Moesha, The Parent Hood, In The House, Roc etc....
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I've also noticed MTV2 picking up on shows geared towarsd African Americans also. Wayans Bros, In Living Color and Martin so far. I've never watched Boumce TV,but from the looks of the schedule it looks boring.
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The thing that helps MTV2 is that they have some penetration (not much) on broadcast TV (though they've sold most of the stations since the Box merger), so the shows get as good a platform there as they could on Bounce.

The major problem I have with Bounce isn't the redundant and looping programming with the same ten movies (seriously, how long are they going to keep the zombie corpse of Judge Hatchett on these low-power and subchannel stations going after cancellation years ago?). It's their technical side. In Milwaukee, it is brutal to watch it for more than ten minutes because of macroblocking and dropping up the wazoo from their main base in Atlanta. Mind you, this is on a station which is all 480i subchannels, so bandwidth hogging by another signal is no excuse. I've heard the same complaints on some of their other affiliates. It's obvious they thought of the concept first, but botched some of the actual execution, both in scheduling and engineering. I expect this from any RTV channel, but not one with the resources behind it such as Raycom and LIN.
 
The one thing I will give props to BounceTV from Day One is that that I have failed to see any infomercials on that network (at least via my local affiliate, KARZ 42-2). Of course, sourcing programming for an upstart network fighting for the scraps with 3rd tier cable networks and other subchannel nets (such as ME, and Antenna) isn't easy. Even I can remember ESPN back in the day airing Austrialian Football, something that would seem out of place today. Movies will be a part but filler programming (cut and diced movies in 4x3 format no match for even Netflix streaming).

I do hope Bounce will make it and not end up among the ashheap of former subchannel nets (remember "Variety Television" and NBC Weather Plus)
 
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