WRKO Using Flo Jonic Interview For Promo

[parklane]

UPDATE !

Interesting to hear today that WRKO is using the Flo Jonic interview as a promo where she accuses "the all news station up the dial", WBZ Radio AM 1030, of spiking the Boston FBI Office Security failure story. Jonic said in this cut that 'BZ suits told her they were holding the story for the fall ratings period but in reality the local FBI [ you know Whitey Bulgers friends}called WBZ Radio AM 1030 and told them not to run the story...

What will WBZ Radio AM 1030 do now....what will they do?

Bet they are calling Entercom suits and asking them to pull the promo.

 

[Neggy]

Would you like fries with that Sir?

I wonder where she thinks she is going to be working now that she has become unemployable in the broadcasting industry

 

[parklane]

BLACKLISTING ! ! !

Yes, Blacklisting is a common occurence in this so called liberal community.
You wonder how the suits stand up since none have a spine !

> I wonder where she thinks she is going to be working now
> that she has become unemployable in the broadcasting
> industry
>

 

[Smoke]

WRKO Special Report with Flo Jonic?

> I wonder where she thinks she is going to be working now
> that she has become unemployable in the broadcasting
> industry

WRKO Special Report with Flo Jonic? Nah, can't happen.

 

[classicradionut]

Re: BLACKLISTING ! ! !

> Yes, Blacklisting is a common occurence in this so called
> liberal community.
> You wonder how the suits stand up since none have a spine !
>

Here's a thought for you guys to ponder. It occurs to me that we never worked with Flo Jonic and we don't have a clue as to her personality, her work ethics or her core beliefs. We judge her by our hearing her news reports and anchoring on WBZ for many years. So, for that, we're blinded by a sort of respect for a professional broadcaster that we've become quite familiar with over the years.

Now, I'm going to bring up something that might irritate some. That's not my intent but I'm going to mention it because it is a reality in every work place, whether people wish to acknowledge it or not.

For all we know (or don't), Ms Jonic may have been an abrasive person who didn't get along with the chain of command. For all we know, she may have flagrantly disregarded memos. Or decided she didn't like staff meetings. Frankly, we just don't know. It's just like when a jock gets let go from a station for no reason. Sometimes he or she did something or had an attitude the higher ups didn't like. Or, it's just a salary thing. Or, it's nothing at all except time to lighten the payroll. You guys see a conspiracy looming behind every tree, and I'll agree that there seems something fishy about the whole Flo Jonic firing and the story of alleged security lapses, but you know what? In the end, all may be exactly as WBZ explained it. I mean, it IS possible they told the truth you know.

No, that's not what I believe. But before we carry this to absurdity, lets think about the fact that all isn't exactly as we always think. Flo could be correct and this is a terrible injustice done to her, or maybe she WAS out of line. It's up to all of us to keep an open mind here.

That, my good friends, is what our friendly forum is all about, right?<P ID="signature">______________
</P>

 

[Neggy]

Re: BLACKLISTING ! ! !

It's just my opinion that regardless of the situation up the road at WBZ to go on WRKO the next week and add fuel to the fire was career suicide.

Then to have that a sound bite from that interview used as a promo just pours salt in the wound.

She is entitled to her opinion, but it's hard enough to find a gig these days without using an atom bomb to burn your bridges behind you.

 

[parklane]

Re: BLACKLISTING ! ! !

Management controls 99.9% of all the lines of communication in a situation like this. I know this from personal experience of being blacklisted. Flo Jonic did the only thing she could once the story of WBZ Radio AM 1030 spiking the FBI Security scandal hit the newspapers. Jonic had to defend herself. WBZ Radio AM 1030 was ready, willing and able to make a sacrificial lamb of her and she wasn't going to the slaughter house without a fight.

Did she save her life? I think so. Jonic's credibility is intact which is far more important than working for WBZ AM 1030 The "Alleged" All News Station.

One thing she will find, as I am sure she has found already, is who her real friends are. In my case it was a rude awakening. The politicians with whom I dealt on a daily basis and who begged to get on the particular program I was producing became less than fair weather friends. One just ran for President of The United States to be exact. The only one with any sense of decency later became mayor of a large metropolitan city and a United States Ambassador. As to my co-workers. Most acted as if I had some contagious plague. One on air talent, an alleged on-air psychologist, even ran away from me when he saw me in the corridor. Not much of a 'thought process' from that individual who wanted the host for whom I produced to get into therapy to deal with his on-air anger... I think you know who I mean.

So, in my particular case I did not have the option to defend myself on some other station's airwaves. Guess it was a tighter community then. My only option was print which in the end only gave birth to a reporter's career as an on-air personality. Guess who?

My career tract was permanently damaged but my self respect remains in tact to this day. A year after my demise at that station the general manager was fired for trying to pull the same stunt which he created and for which I was blamed as low man on the totem pole; this time he had no one to scapegoat. His reputation within this community is legendary and not positive.

All in all, Jonic did the right thing. So, she may never work in broadcasting again. So, she may be blacklisted as I was but she has her integity which no "suit" at WBZ Radio AM 1030 can take away from her EVER.




====================================
> > Yes, Blacklisting is a common occurence in this so called
> > liberal community.
> > You wonder how the suits stand up since none have a spine
> !
> >
>
> Here's a thought for you guys to ponder. It occurs to me
> that we never worked with Flo Jonic and we don't have a clue
> as to her personality, her work ethics or her core beliefs.
> We judge her by our hearing her news reports and anchoring
> on WBZ for many years. So, for that, we're blinded by a
> sort of respect for a professional broadcaster that we've
> become quite familiar with over the years.
>
> Now, I'm going to bring up something that might irritate
> some. That's not my intent but I'm going to mention it
> because it is a reality in every work place, whether people
> wish to acknowledge it or not.
>
> For all we know (or don't), Ms Jonic may have been an
> abrasive person who didn't get along with the chain of
> command. For all we know, she may have flagrantly
> disregarded memos. Or decided she didn't like staff
> meetings. Frankly, we just don't know. It's just like when
> a jock gets let go from a station for no reason. Sometimes
> he or she did something or had an attitude the higher ups
> didn't like. Or, it's just a salary thing. Or, it's
> nothing at all except time to lighten the payroll. You guys
> see a conspiracy looming behind every tree, and I'll agree
> that there seems something fishy about the whole Flo Jonic
> firing and the story of alleged security lapses, but you
> know what? In the end, all may be exactly as WBZ explained
> it. I mean, it IS possible they told the truth you know.
>
> No, that's not what I believe. But before we carry this to
> absurdity, lets think about the fact that all isn't exactly
> as we always think. Flo could be correct and this is a
> terrible injustice done to her, or maybe she WAS out of
> line. It's up to all of us to keep an open mind here.
>
> That, my good friends, is what our friendly forum is all
> about, right?
>

 

[ErieLackawanna]

Re: BLACKLISTING ! ! !

> Now, I'm going to bring up something that might irritate
> some. That's not my intent but I'm going to mention it
> because it is a reality in every work place, whether people
> wish to acknowledge it or not.
>
> For all we know (or don't), Ms Jonic may have been an
> abrasive person who didn't get along with the chain of
> command. For all we know, she may have flagrantly
> disregarded memos. Or decided she didn't like staff
> meetings. Frankly, we just don't know. It's just like when
> a jock gets let go from a station for no reason. Sometimes
> he or she did something or had an attitude the higher ups
> didn't like.

amen on the forum thoughts. and something i learned a long time ago:

the boss may not always be right, but the boss is still the boss.

 

[ErieLackawanna]

Re: BLACKLISTING ! ! !

> It's just my opinion that regardless of the situation up the
> road at WBZ to go on WRKO the next week and add fuel to the
> fire was career suicide.
>
> Then to have that a sound bite from that interview used as a
> promo just pours salt in the wound.
>
> She is entitled to her opinion, but it's hard enough to find
> a gig these days without using an atom bomb to burn your
> bridges behind you.
>

i'm with ya on this one, neggy.

principle is a wonderful thing. but they don't take principle at Stah Mahket, Boch Toyoter or at White Hen Pantry. and last i checked, EastWest Mortgage preferred cash, too.

 

[parklane]

Re: BLACKLISTING ! ! ! *DELETED*

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[ErieLackawanna]

Re: BLACKLISTING ! ! !

pahklane...


there's a time and a place to pick ones battles. and there is a desire to remain employed. if people currently employed in the broadcasting field exercised their principles each and every day, there would be a new person in every shift, every day of the week.
no one enjoys playing the same 300 "well tested songs" every day. but they do it.
no one enjoys the full restrictions of a "forward momentum" format when they feel they have just a little bit more to say. but they do it.
no one enjoys reading the same lame copy, day after day, and putting a 60 music bed under it to sell something. but they do it.
no one enjoys the constraints of getting a great story only to have the entire package not exceed 45 seconds in order to get on the air, but they do it.

Flo got jobbed on this one. great story, solid source material. and then the higher-ups spiked it. her disagreeing with management was most likely not the cause of her launching. her sharing that disagreement with the other employees is what did her in. it's called insubordination. it falls under the rule that "The Boss May Not Always Be Right, But..."

you are Don Quixote on this matter. your cause is noble. (insert applause for parklane here). tilt at your windmills and have at it. but the sound of your hands clapping are not going to change a thing in this regard.

i have friends in the newsroom at WBZ. all are solid professionals who have honed their craft to make it to where they are today. they are the best. Flo was also one of those solid artisans.

jaded? yep. realistic? you betchuraz.

 

[parklane]

Re: BLACKLISTING ! ! !

Just saying that principle is more important than any job. Don't mean to make it personal.

Management controls all the strings but that does not make them virtuous. I have seen too many Pontius Pilates in management not to be jaded myself.

Still, I have to live with myself even if it means working at Walmart.



> pahklane...
>
>
> there's a time and a place to pick ones battles. and
> there is a desire to remain employed. if people currently
> employed in the broadcasting field exercised their
> principles each and every day, there would be a new person
> in every shift, every day of the week.
> no one enjoys playing the same 300 "well tested songs"
> every day. but they do it.
> no one enjoys the full restrictions of a "forward
> momentum" format when they feel they have just a little bit
> more to say. but they do it.
> no one enjoys reading the same lame copy, day after day,
> and putting a 60 music bed under it to sell something. but
> they do it.
> no one enjoys the constraints of getting a great story
> only to have the entire package not exceed 45 seconds in
> order to get on the air, but they do it.
>
> Flo got jobbed on this one. great story, solid source
> material. and then the higher-ups spiked it. her
> disagreeing with management was most likely not the cause of
> her launching. her sharing that disagreement with the other
> employees is what did her in. it's called insubordination.
> it falls under the rule that "The Boss May Not Always Be
> Right, But..."
>
> you are Don Quixote on this matter. your cause is noble.
> (insert applause for parklane here). tilt at your windmills
> and have at it. but the sound of your hands clapping are
> not going to change a thing in this regard.
>
> i have friends in the newsroom at WBZ. all are solid
> professionals who have honed their craft to make it to where
> they are today. they are the best. Flo was also one of
> those solid artisans.
>
> jaded? yep. realistic? you betchuraz.
>

 

[classicradionut]

Re: BLACKLISTING ! ! !

> Just saying that principle is more important than any job.
> Don't mean to make it personal.
>

That's only true if you don't have kids with mouths to feed. If you're single and can afford to throw your lifelong career in the toilet, then I agree with you. Otherwise, there's this little thing called compromise which gets in the way. People have to compromise all the time to LIVE. That's life. I am not accusing Flo Jonic of anything, I am merely proposing that she may have done herself a great disservice.

Apparently, Jonic believes as you do, that principle is more important than her broadcasting career. I applaud her for that while I think it was kinda foolish to press the issue at the expense of radio.


> Management controls all the strings but that does not make
> them virtuous. I have seen too many Pontius Pilates in
> management not to be jaded myself.

Oh come on. Anyone who actually expects upper management in radio in 2005 to be virtuous, honest or anything like that... in ANY industry, in fact, is kidding themselves. I view just about all suits these days as a Ken Lay protege. So, people should take their jobs with a grain of salt and realize things are what they are, and you either wanna work or you wanna make waves. You can't do both.
>
> Still, I have to live with myself even if it means working
> at Walmart.

What? and not protest unfair labor practices?<P ID="signature">______________
</P>

 

[parklane]

Re: BLACKLISTING ! ! !

I knew as soon as I wrote Walmart someone would bring that up.

It is just that the bad guys win too often because good people don't do enough.

Again, there is life outside of broadcasting. As my ol' friend used to say," I am getting out of the business". Sadly, he took much of "the business" with him when he left.




> > Just saying that principle is more important than any job.
>
> > Don't mean to make it personal.
> >
>
> That's only true if you don't have kids with mouths to feed.
> If you're single and can afford to throw your lifelong
> career in the toilet, then I agree with you. Otherwise,
> there's this little thing called compromise which gets in
> the way. People have to compromise all the time to LIVE.
> That's life. I am not accusing Flo Jonic of anything, I am
> merely proposing that she may have done herself a great
> disservice.
>
> Apparently, Jonic believes as you do, that principle is more
> important than her broadcasting career. I applaud her for
> that while I think it was kinda foolish to press the issue
> at the expense of radio.
>
>
> > Management controls all the strings but that does not make
>
> > them virtuous. I have seen too many Pontius Pilates in
> > management not to be jaded myself.
>
> Oh come on. Anyone who actually expects upper management in
> radio in 2005 to be virtuous, honest or anything like
> that... in ANY industry, in fact, is kidding themselves. I
> view just about all suits these days as a Ken Lay protege.
> So, people should take their jobs with a grain of salt and
> realize things are what they are, and you either wanna work
> or you wanna make waves. You can't do both.
> >
> > Still, I have to live with myself even if it means working
>
> > at Walmart.
>
> What? and not protest unfair labor practices?
>

 

[ErieLackawanna]

Re: BLACKLISTING ! ! !

> It is just that the bad guys win too often because good
> people don't do enough.
>
> Again, there is life outside of broadcasting. As my ol'
> friend used to say," I am getting out of the business".
> Sadly, he took much of "the business" with him when he left.
>
>

that happens a lot in this business, sadly. some are moved because of dissatisfaction, while others are moved for reasons not of their own choice.

and when the talented ones move on, they do indeed take a large piece of "the business" with them.

there are young, up&coming professionals out there who "get it." may they be the ones to pick up the torch and keep that little homefire burning.

and yes, the bad guys do win far too often. although, to paraphrase the immortal Jessica Rabbit: they're not really bad... they're just drawn (into being)that way. many of today's radio managers were either programming or sales at the onset. moving up, they do have to surrender some of that identity along the way. that's not a defense of that surrender, by the way. the truly principled ones retain it all. if we listen hard enough, we'll know where they are.

 

[inorm99]

Re: BLACKLISTING ! ! !

Integrity and reputation for that matter mean nothing in the world of commercial radio if the boss fires you and gives a bad reference.
The Boss has to answer to the suits above he, or she, and they answer to
for example, Boch, or Bob's furniture and whoever keeps the station on the air.
To all those who are in radio;
Print out your favorable email testimonials and get written character references from associates and superiors in radio and a decent aircheck, and leave town for
greener pastures if you have to even if it means lower pay.

The problem though, is not only the mean and stupid people who do blacklist, but those who accept this as part of the radio territory and perpetuate it.
Nice folks in radio are an anomaly and let's see if we can build this movement





I knew as soon as I wrote Walmart someone would bring that
> up.
>
> It is just that the bad guys win too often because good
> people don't do enough.
>
> Again, there is life outside of broadcasting. As my ol'
> friend used to say," I am getting out of the business".
> Sadly, he took much of "the business" with him when he left.
>
>
>
>
>
> > > Just saying that principle is more important than any
> job.
> >
> > > Don't mean to make it personal.
> > >
> >
> > That's only true if you don't have kids with mouths to
> feed.
> > If you're single and can afford to throw your lifelong
> > career in the toilet, then I agree with you. Otherwise,
> > there's this little thing called compromise which gets in
> > the way. People have to compromise all the time to LIVE.
>
> > That's life. I am not accusing Flo Jonic of anything, I
> am
> > merely proposing that she may have done herself a great
> > disservice.
> >
> > Apparently, Jonic believes as you do, that principle is
> more
> > important than her broadcasting career. I applaud her for
>
> > that while I think it was kinda foolish to press the issue
>
> > at the expense of radio.
> >
> >
> > > Management controls all the strings but that does not
> make
> >
> > > them virtuous. I have seen too many Pontius Pilates in
> > > management not to be jaded myself.
> >
> > Oh come on. Anyone who actually expects upper management
> in
> > radio in 2005 to be virtuous, honest or anything like
> > that... in ANY industry, in fact, is kidding themselves.
> I
> > view just about all suits these days as a Ken Lay protege.
>
> > So, people should take their jobs with a grain of salt and
>
> > realize things are what they are, and you either wanna
> work
> > or you wanna make waves. You can't do both.
> > >
> > > Still, I have to live with myself even if it means
> working
> >
> > > at Walmart.
> >
> > What? and not protest unfair labor practices?
> >
> <P ID="signature">______________
Norm Rosen
</P>

 

[parklane]

Re: BLACKLISTING ! ! !

Let's start by naming the "good people" and omiting the bad. Of course, we could kill the good one's reputation by putting them on that list...

> Integrity and reputation for that matter mean nothing in the
> world of commercial radio if the boss fires you and gives a
> bad reference.
> The Boss has to answer to the suits above he, or she, and
> they answer to
> for example, Boch, or Bob's furniture and whoever keeps the
> station on the air.
> To all those who are in radio;
> Print out your favorable email testimonials and get written
> character references from associates and superiors in radio
> and a decent aircheck, and leave town for
> greener pastures if you have to even if it means lower pay.
>
> The problem though, is not only the mean and stupid people
> who do blacklist, but those who accept this as part of the
> radio territory and perpetuate it.
> Nice folks in radio are an anomaly and let's see if we can
> build this movement
>
>
>
>
>
> I knew as soon as I wrote Walmart someone would bring that
> > up.
> >
> > It is just that the bad guys win too often because good
> > people don't do enough.
> >
> > Again, there is life outside of broadcasting. As my ol'
> > friend used to say," I am getting out of the business".
> > Sadly, he took much of "the business" with him when he
> left.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > > Just saying that principle is more important than any
> > job.
> > >
> > > > Don't mean to make it personal.
> > > >
> > >
> > > That's only true if you don't have kids with mouths to
> > feed.
> > > If you're single and can afford to throw your lifelong
> > > career in the toilet, then I agree with you. Otherwise,
>
> > > there's this little thing called compromise which gets
> in
> > > the way. People have to compromise all the time to
> LIVE.
> >
> > > That's life. I am not accusing Flo Jonic of anything, I
>
> > am
> > > merely proposing that she may have done herself a great
> > > disservice.
> > >
> > > Apparently, Jonic believes as you do, that principle is
> > more
> > > important than her broadcasting career. I applaud her
> for
> >
> > > that while I think it was kinda foolish to press the
> issue
> >
> > > at the expense of radio.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Management controls all the strings but that does not
> > make
> > >
> > > > them virtuous. I have seen too many Pontius Pilates in
>
> > > > management not to be jaded myself.
> > >
> > > Oh come on. Anyone who actually expects upper
> management
> > in
> > > radio in 2005 to be virtuous, honest or anything like
> > > that... in ANY industry, in fact, is kidding themselves.
>
> > I
> > > view just about all suits these days as a Ken Lay
> protege.
> >
> > > So, people should take their jobs with a grain of salt
> and
> >
> > > realize things are what they are, and you either wanna
> > work
> > > or you wanna make waves. You can't do both.
> > > >
> > > > Still, I have to live with myself even if it means
> > working
> > >
> > > > at Walmart.
> > >
> > > What? and not protest unfair labor practices?
> > >
> >
>