Because the two are on the same frequency, how are they coverage wise? When/where does one interfere with the other? For me, if I were to determine their coverage areas, I use Princeton as their drop off point.
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WRNB vs. WHTZ and/or WBEB vs. WCBS
- Thread starter ksradiogeek
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I can pick up WRNB okay when I move the external antenna around, and at some points can get it almost right albeit a little static. That could just be my antenna or radio placement of course. However...sometimes Z-100 booms in if the antenna is in a certain spot. It comes in as clear as NJ101.5.
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MikeD
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I drive up & down the NJ Turnpike everyday and start to lose WRNB around Exit 7A in Robbinsville heading northbound. Z100 doesn't come in clear until about Exit 8A in Cranbury. The stations are a mish-mosh in between.
For 101.1 on the other hand, WBEB is strong almost to Exit 8 in Hightstown, and WCBS isn't really clear until Exit 9 in East Brunswick.
For 101.1 on the other hand, WBEB is strong almost to Exit 8 in Hightstown, and WCBS isn't really clear until Exit 9 in East Brunswick.
I grew up in Hazlet, NJ (Monmouth County). "Usually" 100.3 was WHTZ there, but every once in a while, tropo would bring in WPLY (now WRNB). Additionally, there are some small hills in Holmdel Township- the next town to the south- there was a certain point where the hills would null out the NYC signals and both 100.3 and 101.1 would be from Philly. Usually out of the two (100.3 and 101.1, 100.3 from Philly would be the weakest as they transmitted from Media, PA).
Another "same channel" station was 99.5. Never received WJBR in Monmouth- it was always WBAI. Strangely enough, I was able to tune to 93.7 WSTW in Hazlet and could "hear" it- sometimes clear, sometimes not.
As for 101.1, the CBS-FM signal was kind of underwhelmed in that area of Monmouth. You would get "picket fencing" and hiss while driving around especially towards Freehold. To me, it never really sounded as "robust" as the other NYC Class B's in that area. I had a VHF TV antenna aimed at Philadelphia from the house and that would always bring in WEAZ/WBEB on 101.1. Heck one time it even brought in "DC-101" from Washington. Years ago, a religious group wanted to put a translator on 101.1 in either Asbury Park or Neptune, NJ. I don't it ever got built, but if it did, it would have doomed 101.1 from either NYC or Philly in most of Monmouth County.
Another "same channel" station was 99.5. Never received WJBR in Monmouth- it was always WBAI. Strangely enough, I was able to tune to 93.7 WSTW in Hazlet and could "hear" it- sometimes clear, sometimes not.
As for 101.1, the CBS-FM signal was kind of underwhelmed in that area of Monmouth. You would get "picket fencing" and hiss while driving around especially towards Freehold. To me, it never really sounded as "robust" as the other NYC Class B's in that area. I had a VHF TV antenna aimed at Philadelphia from the house and that would always bring in WEAZ/WBEB on 101.1. Heck one time it even brought in "DC-101" from Washington. Years ago, a religious group wanted to put a translator on 101.1 in either Asbury Park or Neptune, NJ. I don't it ever got built, but if it did, it would have doomed 101.1 from either NYC or Philly in most of Monmouth County.
I may not have all of this straight, because it was from a while ago -- and it doesn't address the B-101/WCBS-FM spacing.
In the NYC metro, 100.3 was given to Newark NJ, not to NYC. WHTZ's license, and its TOH ID, is legally Newark (and suitably buried at every opportunity). WHTZ is the former beautiful-music WVNJ-FM, the 620 AM of which also was licensed to Newark NJ.
Since Newark is closer to Philly than the Empire state building is, a 100.3 in the Philly market had to be awarded to a place concurrently distant from Center City. Media was, I gather, the closest COL of prestige to C.C. as could be arranged, geographically.
Someone else here would be better informed as to whether WKSZ/WPLY/WRNB was originally WXUR Media's FM.
The subject of that wide-load 101.1 jam-up in central NJ also would best be explained by someone with more knowledge than I. My only recollection of reception on 101.1 was driving a few times, north, on 206 in NJ. Uphill I'd get WEAZ ; downhill it was CBS-FM.
Two other notes:
1) It had to've been a good ten years ago when WHTZ (Z-100) in NYC went after, and won, WKSZ 100.3 (Z-100) for using the same positioner.
Huh? Why was that a problem? How could diary confusion hurt? The more the merrier, I should say.
2) Lol -- I worked both WEAZ and Kiss-100 years ago. When I switched employment, a great NYC-area pal from the school days grumbled, 'Figures. So that means I still won't be able to hear you on the radio here. What else is new?'
In the NYC metro, 100.3 was given to Newark NJ, not to NYC. WHTZ's license, and its TOH ID, is legally Newark (and suitably buried at every opportunity). WHTZ is the former beautiful-music WVNJ-FM, the 620 AM of which also was licensed to Newark NJ.
Since Newark is closer to Philly than the Empire state building is, a 100.3 in the Philly market had to be awarded to a place concurrently distant from Center City. Media was, I gather, the closest COL of prestige to C.C. as could be arranged, geographically.
Someone else here would be better informed as to whether WKSZ/WPLY/WRNB was originally WXUR Media's FM.
The subject of that wide-load 101.1 jam-up in central NJ also would best be explained by someone with more knowledge than I. My only recollection of reception on 101.1 was driving a few times, north, on 206 in NJ. Uphill I'd get WEAZ ; downhill it was CBS-FM.
Two other notes:
1) It had to've been a good ten years ago when WHTZ (Z-100) in NYC went after, and won, WKSZ 100.3 (Z-100) for using the same positioner.
Huh? Why was that a problem? How could diary confusion hurt? The more the merrier, I should say.
2) Lol -- I worked both WEAZ and Kiss-100 years ago. When I switched employment, a great NYC-area pal from the school days grumbled, 'Figures. So that means I still won't be able to hear you on the radio here. What else is new?'
Steve Green NEPA said:
The same channel allotment but not the same license or facilities. WXUR-FM lost its license and it was years before the FCC chose a new operator for the frequency. From memory, WXUR's power was well below the Class B maximum and its transmitter was pretty far out in the country. WKSZ originally had its tower somewhere in Delaware County, but it was closer to Philly and a stronger signal.
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