Wrong ID

[mic_check]

IIRC, the balch springs tranmitter has been dismantled.

 

[salemjedi54]

Someone here is being dense or deliberately missing the point of the thread. I understand that KSKY is using a satellite or ISDN feed for Rangers games. What the poster is saying is that whomever is on the boards at Salem needs to hit the open microphone button when Eric Nadel calls for a station ID and say "KSKY Balch Springs" instead of letting the network ID with the (illegal) call of the flagship "KESN FM and HD Allen/Dallas/Fort Worth".

That is all I was trying to say. Thanks AlanB.

 

[milton77]

Speaking of the rangers on KSKY. I wonder if they have thought of simulcasting them on KESN-3 too.

 

[Sgt. Hans G. Schultz]

IIRC, the balch springs tranmitter has been dismantled.


IIRC, KSKY has never had a transmitter in Balch Springs. It was on Bruton Rd between Jim Miller Rd & Buckner Blvd. The building remains. That's the Pleasant Grove area in the City of Dallas. COL was changed from Dallas to Balch Springs so they could move/upgrade the transmitter.

 

[Neil56]

Rangers are on KSKY tonight. I just heard the proper ID.

 

[salemjedi54]

Rangers are on KSKY tonight. I just heard the proper ID.

I heard that one as well. They also changed their rejoin liners to read "Your home for Texas Rangers Baseball, The Texas Rangers/ESPN Radio Network" and not 103.3 ESPN.

 

[Jubb05]

Will someone please explain the reasoning behind the mandated hourly id?

 

[bturner]

As it was explained to me, the Legal ID was required in World War II when stations had to ID at the top and bottom of the hour. It seems there was concern about 'enemy' broadcasts Americans might hear on their radios. After the war, the requirement went from twice an hour to the top of the hour or at a natural break in programming closest to the top of the hour. Legal ID is call letters followed by City of License.

There are some additional items that may be inserted such as the ownership name or the dial position. Because of the way FCC rules are written, most all stations follow the "call letters and city of license" rule strictly.

Legal IDs have been aired at different times in recent years. The commercial break before the hour is the typical placement, even if that break is at 40 minutes past the hour. The claim is a commercial break is a natural break in programming but when the DJ speaks under the jingle at the top of the hour, this is within an uninterrupted string of songs.

Legal IDs have been recorded like the car commercial disclaimers and speeded up a bit so the listeners never can understand them. I've heard this on a few stations. This is fine becauuse it indeed 'airs'.

I see the legal ID requirement as no longer needed. I wonder if they even fine stations these days. I worked at one station 3 .5 years that inserted "FM Stereo" between call letters and city of license (not a legal ID by the rules) and nothing ever happened.

 

[jd]

I see the legal ID requirement as no longer needed. I wonder if they even fine stations these days.

I got a NAL in Houston for taking liberties with our ID in what amounted to a run-on sentence (suburban COL ID straight into "Houston weather"). It was immediately taken care of and no further action was taken. But that was years ago and offhand I can't think of any recent situations where a station was fined for not ID'ing or airing improper ID's. You're right; it really doesn't matter and nobody at the FCC really cares. Not only that, probably unless it's noted here the FCC would never even know about it.

 

[Tony Williams]

As it was explained to me, the Legal ID was required in World War II when stations had to ID at the top and bottom of the hour. It seems there was concern about 'enemy' broadcasts Americans might hear on their radios. After the war, the requirement went from twice an hour to the top of the hour or at a natural break in programming closest to the top of the hour. Legal ID is call letters followed by City of License.

There are some additional items that may be inserted such as the ownership name or the dial position. Because of the way FCC rules are written, most all stations follow the "call letters and city of license" rule strictly.

Legal IDs have been aired at different times in recent years. The commercial break before the hour is the typical placement, even if that break is at 40 minutes past the hour. The claim is a commercial break is a natural break in programming but when the DJ speaks under the jingle at the top of the hour, this is within an uninterrupted string of songs.

Legal IDs have been recorded like the car commercial disclaimers and speeded up a bit so the listeners never can understand them. I've heard this on a few stations. This is fine becauuse it indeed 'airs'.

I see the legal ID requirement as no longer needed. I wonder if they even fine stations these days. I worked at one station 3 .5 years that inserted "FM Stereo" between call letters and city of license (not a legal ID by the rules) and nothing ever happened.

When I started in radio in 1970, the legal ID, as I remember, was required to be given at the top and bottom of the hour within two minutes on either side of the top and bottom of the hour.

Transmitter readings were also required at the top and bottom of the hour. When I worked at KAKC in Tulsa, I either forgot a reading or failed to write it down on the log. In any case, I caught hell from the PD Scott "Scooter" Seagraves.

Tony

 

[fybush]

As it was explained to me, the Legal ID was required in World War II when stations had to ID at the top and bottom of the hour. It seems there was concern about 'enemy' broadcasts Americans might hear on their radios. After the war, the requirement went from twice an hour to the top of the hour or at a natural break in programming closest to the top of the hour. Legal ID is call letters followed by City of License.

The requirement long predates WW II, and indeed predates the FCC entirely. It goes back to the earliest days of radio, when the idea was to provide listeners (and enforcement officials) with a way of identifying stations that might be off-frequency or otherwise causing interference, not only to other broadcast stations but to other services like ship-to-shore radio.

The bottom-hour ID requirement went away in the seventies. The top-hour requirement is still enforced on occasion, though generally as "one more fine" on top of a larger list of violations when a station is a particularly bad actor.