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WROR COL Question

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mdamico25

Hi Everyone,
Driving home tonight around 8:00, I was listening to WROR and when they gave their top of the hour I'd, the imagining voice said '105.7 WROR, Brookline- Boston', instead of the usual 'Framingham-Boston.' Did Greater Media persuade the FCC to 'move' the 105.7 allocation closer to Boston. Since 'Brookline' is also the nominal home of WBOS/92.9, would that free up the 92.9 allocation to Boston? Seems like a waste, since both 92.9 and 105.7 are not rimshots andhave transmitted from Boston since the early 1970s, unlike in Philadelphia where the 97.5 allocation 'moved' from Trenton, NJ to Burlington, NJ and eventually Wyndmoor, PA (Philadelphia).

-mike
 
I was listening to WROR OTA today at 11 and I heard the regular "WROR, WROR HD1, Framingham-Boston" legal. They're still licensed to Framingham, and it'd be nearly impossible to change that. (There wouldn't be a point, either.) I don't know what to tell you...
 
reelyreal said:
I was listening to WROR OTA today at 11 and I heard the regular "WROR, WROR HD1, Framingham-Boston" legal. They're still licensed to Framingham, and it'd be nearly impossible to change that. (There wouldn't be a point, either.) I don't know what to tell you...
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Even though Framingham lost AM 1200, it still has 91.3 FM along with WROR, so it seems like a COL change could happen while still providing local service. But yes, a "WROR Wayland" wouldn't be able to claim greater facilities.
 
I heard the Brookline ID on WROR a few months ago as well. Clearly it's just someone in the production department that has WROR and WBOS mixed up.
 
jlehmann said:
I heard the Brookline ID on WROR a few months ago as well. Clearly it's just someone in the production department that has WROR and WBOS mixed up.
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YES!!!
I swore I heard them ID as “Brookline-Boston” one night several months ago,
too (11pm, sometime during their annual Christmas schtick?), only half
listening, but when I checked again, a couple of times, it was clearly
“Framingham-Boston”, so I figured it was just me! ;D
 
Not much into engineering but could the aux/backup transmitter be in Brookline? Does that make a difference when giving the COL?
 
Eli Polonsky said:
Isn't getting the correct COL in the legal ID a fairly important thing to not screw up, and even apparently occasionally repeat?
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There's a couple of threads in other forums on this site talking about how the legal ID has become pretty irrelevant... When's the last time you saw an FCC fine for "improper legal ID format?"
 
Haven't heard of one (but is there one for not doing a legal ID especially for hour after hour?)

Have noticed WBZ's ID says something like "WBZ in HD, WBZ-FM HD3, Boston". "In" is
permitted? (It almost sounds like it's saying "WBZN" or "WBCN"...)
 
raccoonradio said:
Haven't heard of one (but is there one for not doing a legal ID especially for hour after hour?)
Have noticed WBZ's ID says something like "WBZ in HD, WBZ-FM HD3, Boston". "In" is
permitted? (It almost sounds like it's saying "WBZN" or "WBCN"...)
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It does SOUND like "in," but I'm pretty sure that what we're hearing is "and" spoken a little too fast: WBZ and HD, WBZ-FM HD-3, Boston." However, as I understand the rules, there are problems with the preceding: I think the legal way would be WBZ Boston, WBZ-HD Boston, WBZ-FM HD-3 Boston. Now, maybe the first Boston can be replaced with "and," but I doubt whether the Boston in the FM ID can apply to the AM and (AM) HD IDs. And even if it's legal just the way they do it, I think it sounds crazy. If it were up to me, I'd make it WBZ, WBZ-HD, and WBZ-FM HD-3 Boston. Even if that violates an FCC rule, I think it makes the most sense.
 
raccoonradio said:
Have noticed WBZ's ID says something like "WBZ in HD, WBZ-FM HD3, Boston". "In" is
permitted? (It almost sounds like it's saying "WBZN" or "WBCN"...)
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Stations broadcasting in a digital mode are required to announce that fact, but no language is specified. I certainly think "in HD" would be regarded as a reasonable way for WBZ to announce their use of HD.

Otherwise, "in" isn't technically a permissible insertion. ("WBZ in Boston" would technically not be legal) But since it certainly doesn't violate the spirit of the regulation, I don't see any way the station would be prosecuted for IDing that way.
 
legal ID

A legal ID consists of call letters, directly followed by the
city of license, (for TV, you can do this audibly, visually, or both)
You can put whatever you like, before and/or after the legal ID.
"Your home for alternative rock - WBOS - Brookline, Boston, Planet Earth"
- is therefore OK. The legal ID requirement has been met.



It is only required at the top of the hour, as close to that time as the program content
permits. Here at WLYN/WAZN the automation plays back the legal ID every
hour exactly at hour:00:00, according to the automation systems' clocks.
 
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