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WROX Clarksdale - new format/owner coming

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mikl73

WROX has gone off the air, but stand by because it will return in about two weeks under new management.
George Hines, the general manager, said Wednesday the unnamed new owner would be disclosed later.

WROX, whose legacy grew with the broadcasting by Early Wright in the 1940-50s, will also move from its location at 257 Delta Ave, to 628 Desoto Ave.
"We will be in the old NAACP building," Hines said. "The building is being renovated and new equipment installed."
Jason Konarzs has been the owner since the radio station changed hands in early 2003.
Hines said WROX will continue with the same blues format for a while, but will ultimately become an all-gospel station while its sister station, WKXY will have blues programming.
Wright, who died in 1994 at 84, is credited with bringing the blues to Clarksdale radio.
Wright's common intro to songs was to say, "That was a beautiful record I dropped on you for your listening pleasure."

taken from Clarksdale Press Register 6/10
 
Re: Clarksdale Press Register

> taken from Clarksdale Press Register 6/10

Just a friendly note...

You really need to be careful about quoting copyrighted material here. The author/owner may one day decide to stir up trouble.

Rewrites are fine, if they only borrow facts from the original work.

DE
 
Re: Clarksdale Press Register

> > taken from Clarksdale Press Register 6/10
>
> Just a friendly note...
>
> You really need to be careful about quoting copyrighted
> material here. The author/owner may one day decide to stir
> up trouble.
>
> Rewrites are fine, if they only borrow facts from the
> original work.
>
> DE
>
I think as long as he attributes the copyrighted source, he's ok.
 
Re: Clarksdale Press Register

> I think as long as he attributes the copyrighted source,
> he's ok.

Nope.

All he is doing is essentially admitting where the story came from. Common misconception.

Any copying of a copyrighted work -- and all works are copyrighted if they exist in a fixed medium -- is a prima facie case of infringement. Now, there are defenses to infringement, such as Fair Use, but this isn't a Fair Use issue.

Once can paraphrase an article, using its factual content, but not its creative expression (where's the line? Who knows? Tell a court, and we'll all know). It is generally considered safe to post a link to a work also, but that's still open for debate in legal circles.

Lawyers. It's always the dang lawyers, ain't it? DANG LAWYERS!

DE
 
Re: Clarksdale Press Register

> > I think as long as he attributes the copyrighted source,
> > he's ok.
>
> Nope.
>
> All he is doing is essentially admitting where the story
> came from. Common misconception.
>
> Any copying of a copyrighted work -- and all works are
> copyrighted if they exist in a fixed medium -- is a prima
> facie case of infringement. Now, there are defenses to
> infringement, such as Fair Use, but this isn't a Fair Use
> issue.
>
> Once can paraphrase an article, using its factual content,
> but not its creative expression (where's the line? Who
> knows? Tell a court, and we'll all know). It is generally
> considered safe to post a link to a work also, but that's
> still open for debate in legal circles.
>
> Lawyers. It's always the dang lawyers, ain't it? DANG
> LAWYERS!
>
> DE
>
Interesting. I think the correct and legal way is to open with "According to a copyrighted story in the Clarksdale Press Register". At least that's the way we did it in all my years of Newspaper/TV/Radio. Maybe things have changed a bit.
 
Re: Clarksdale Press Register

> Interesting. I think the correct and legal way is to open
> with "According to a copyrighted story in the Clarksdale
> Press Register". At least that's the way we did it in all
> my years of Newspaper/TV/Radio. Maybe things have changed a
> bit.

If you do that, it would seem that you are relying on factual representations within the story, and not the expression of the story itself. If that's the case, you're golden. FACTS are not the subject matter of copyright, only expression is.

Note, of course, in the scenario you mention, the story is re-written. If the whole story were reprinted, there would need to be some sort of copyright license.

Again, I am not the copyright police. I post this simply to clue some in that they may be running into trouble.

DANG LAWYERS!

DE
 
Re: Clarksdale Press Register

> > Interesting. I think the correct and legal way is to open
> > with "According to a copyrighted story in the Clarksdale
> > Press Register". At least that's the way we did it in all
>
> > my years of Newspaper/TV/Radio. Maybe things have changed
> a
> > bit.
>
> If you do that, it would seem that you are relying on
> factual representations within the story, and not the
> expression of the story itself. If that's the case, you're
> golden. FACTS are not the subject matter of copyright, only
> expression is.
>
> Note, of course, in the scenario you mention, the story is
> re-written. If the whole story were reprinted, there would
> need to be some sort of copyright license.
>
> Again, I am not the copyright police. I post this simply to
> clue some in that they may be running into trouble.
>
> DANG LAWYERS!
>
> DE
>
Copyright law is a hard issue. I taught a copyright course to senior execs of a fortune 500 company I worked at several years ago. Seems they bought a educational tape and liked it so much they made 300 copies for their employees to watch at home. A million bucks later, they thought it might be a good idea to educate these execs on the do's and don'ts on copyright law. It's a common misconception that if you bought the media, you own the content and can reproduce it at will. In compiling the course, I learned a lot but there are still a lot of grey areas.
 
Re: Clarksdale Press Register

In the vast majority of cases, there's no harm as long as 1) you properly credit the source, and 2) you're not using it for commercial gain. <P ID="signature">______________
Robert Charles Pickering
Lakeland, Florida</P>
 
Re: Clarksdale Press Register

> In the vast majority of cases, there's no harm as long as 1)
> you properly credit the source, and 2) you're not using it
> for commercial gain.

Wrong.

Copying is copying. Infringement is infringement.

Attribution of source, while courteous, is not legally important. You either infringed, or you didn't.

Now, as far as commercial vs. non-commercial use... The fact that a publication is made without expectation of pecuniary gain IS relevant, but almost exclusively only in terms of damage. It does not stop the publication from being wrongful. And, simply because the infringer himself gets no gain from a publication, it may still impact the commercial value of the work. Example: publication of a newspaper article makes someone less likely to buy the paper.

Again, there are defenses to infringment like Fair Use (I think this was what you might have been stumbing around), but almost surely this IS NOT a Fair Use issue. And, even if it were, Fair Use is a 4-part test. Not just two.

There is a lot more here, but it goes beyond the scope of this Board. Further, many here don't have the background to get some of it. But, suffice it to say, it is a good idea to pay attention to Intellectual Property rights.

I can't be any more clear here. To publish a large portion of a copyrighted work -- with or without attribution -- is infringement. Are you likely to be sued for the kind of publication made earlier? No. But, it's not a sure thing.

And, without getting too deep into my background, let me just say for the Record. Trust me. I know this stuff.

DE
 
Re: Clarksdale Press Register

> > In the vast majority of cases, there's no harm as long as
> 1)
> > you properly credit the source, and 2) you're not using it
>
> > for commercial gain.
>
> Wrong.
>
> Copying is copying. Infringement is infringement.
>
> Attribution of source, while courteous, is not legally
> important. You either infringed, or you didn't.
>
> Now, as far as commercial vs. non-commercial use... The fact
> that a publication is made without expectation of pecuniary
> gain IS relevant, but almost exclusively only in terms of
> damage. It does not stop the publication from being
> wrongful. And, simply because the infringer himself gets no
> gain from a publication, it may still impact the commercial
> value of the work. Example: publication of a newspaper
> article makes someone less likely to buy the paper.
>
> Again, there are defenses to infringment like Fair Use (I
> think this was what you might have been stumbing around),
> but almost surely this IS NOT a Fair Use issue. And, even
> if it were, Fair Use is a 4-part test. Not just two.
>
> There is a lot more here, but it goes beyond the scope of
> this Board. Further, many here don't have the background to
> get some of it. But, suffice it to say, it is a good idea
> to pay attention to Intellectual Property rights.
>
> I can't be any more clear here. To publish a large portion
> of a copyrighted work -- with or without attribution -- is
> infringement. Are you likely to be sued for the kind of
> publication made earlier? No. But, it's not a sure thing.
>
> And, without getting too deep into my background, let me
> just say for the Record. Trust me. I know this stuff.
>
> DE


> Now, if ya'll will excuse me, I'm gonna slit my wrists.....AAAAAAAGGHHHH!!!
 
Re: Clarksdale Press Register

> >
> > Now, if ya'll will excuse me, I'm gonna slit my
> wrists.....AAAAAAAGGHHHH!!!
>

I've always thought it interesting that you can go to message boards and home pages all over the internet and see people curse like sailors, use the "F" word and post dirty pictures, But the minute someone repeats something they read on another website or newspaper or quotes what the ratings were for a particular radio station, some moderator has a fit. Heaven forbid someone should say something thats not "PC". I once was TOSed from some busybody in an AOL chatroom for telling "fat" jokes. The sad news is, I'm the one who is fat.
 
Re: Clarksdale Press Register

> > >
> > > Now, if ya'll will excuse me, I'm gonna slit my
> > wrists.....AAAAAAAGGHHHH!!!
> >
>
> I've always thought it interesting that you can go to
> message boards and home pages all over the internet and see
> people curse like sailors, use the "F" word and post dirty
> pictures, But the minute someone repeats something they
> read on another website or newspaper or quotes what the
> ratings were for a particular radio station, some moderator
> has a fit. Heaven forbid someone should say something
> thats not "PC". I once was TOSed from some busybody in an
> AOL chatroom for telling "fat" jokes. The sad news is, I'm
> the one who is fat.
>
Pat, the reference to AOL is a violation of copyright law, and, as such, subject to liability in small claims court in DeSoto County. Our attorney will be contact.<P ID="signature">______________
"ain't gonna let 'em catch the Midnight Rider..."</P>
 
Re: Clarksdale Press Register

> > > Press Register". At least that's the way we did it > >
> Copyright law is a hard issue. I taught a copyright course
> to senior execs of a fortune 500 company I worked at several
> years ago. Seems they bought a educational tape and liked
> it so much they made 300 copies for their employees to watch
> at home. A million bucks later, they thought it might be a
> good idea to educate these execs on the do's and don'ts on
> copyright law. It's a common misconception that if you
> bought the media, you own the content and can reproduce it
> at will. In compiling the course, I learned a lot but there
> are still a lot of grey areas.
>


Well copying a tape is a little different than repeating something you read in the newspaper on some message board. I quess that the newspaper could find this message board out of all the millions on the internet, get a court order to supeana the owners of this website into turning over the IP address of the person who posted the message then trace it back to the internet provider, then supeana them to find out the address of the person who uses the credit card used to pay for there internet account, then sue the pants off of the lowlife scum that quoted the article from the newspaper that most people have never heard of anyway.
Of course I'll probally get hit with plenty of flames by posting this sarcastic message. hmm
 
Here's the BOTTON LINE

Do any of you think for a the slightest of moments that anyone at the Clarksdale Press Register gives a rat's ass that this article was pasted here????????????????????????????????????????????????
I didn't think so.
 
Re: Here's the BOTTON LINE

> Do any of you think for a the slightest of moments that
> anyone at the Clarksdale Press Register gives a rat's ass
> that this article was pasted
> here????????????????????????????????????????????????
> I didn't think so.

The issue is not the Clarksdale Press Register, it's copyright law. I think DeadElvis has made many good points. I own several copyrights and trademarks and have consulted businesses on such. I've never seen so many copyrights infringed since the web came of age the past few years. In fact, I'm in the process of registering a trademark. It's an issue that affects Broadcasting deeper than you know.
>
 
So when can we expect the blues to return?

When will George have the blues back on the air? Did Jason have to sell the station due to the FCC forfitures? Did the robot FM blues station put the final nail in WROX?<P ID="signature">______________
--- THE Insultant ---</P>
 
Re: Here's the BOTTON LINE

> > Do any of you think for a the slightest of moments that
> > anyone at the Clarksdale Press Register gives a rat's ass
> > that this article was pasted
> > here????????????????????????????????????????????????
> > I didn't think so.
>
> The issue is not the Clarksdale Press Register, it's
> copyright law. I think DeadElvis has made many good points.
> I own several copyrights and trademarks and have consulted
> businesses on such. I've never seen so many copyrights
> infringed since the web came of age the past few years. In
> fact, I'm in the process of registering a trademark. It's
> an issue that affects Broadcasting deeper than you know.
> >
>

While I'll have to agree that the Clarksdale Press Register probably doesn't care if their article was posted here or not, DE and some of the others are right... summary - if you aren't sure if you're breaking copyright laws, then summarize whatever article you're looking at just to be on the safe side. We'd hate for anyone to get sued over something posted on a message board now wouldn't we...

<P ID="signature">______________

Deep In The Heart of Dixie
Alabama/East TN/Kentucky/Mississippi</P>
 
> WROX has gone off the air, but stand by because it will
> return in about two weeks under new management.

Ok, here's the real story. Jason Konarz never was the owner. He was merely operating the station pursuant to an LMA. I pulled the plug on him because he was way behind on his LMA payments and making no effort to get caught up. We're buying a building to move the studio into and also building a new transmitter building. We'll be back on-air with the American Blues Network sometime this summer. The FM will be applying to go to 6kw at 100m (that's the power increase George was referring to).

Larry Fuss
Delta Radio LLC
 
WROX/WKXY - The REAL story...

> WROX has gone off the air, but stand by because it will
> return in about two weeks under new management.

Ok, here's the real story. Jason Konarz never was the owner. He was merely operating the station pursuant to an LMA. I pulled the plug on him because he was way behind on his LMA payments and making no effort to get caught up. We're buying a building to move the studio into and also building a new transmitter building. We'll be back on-air with the American Blues Network sometime this summer. The FM will be applying to go to 6kw at 100m (that's the power increase George was referring to).

Larry Fuss
Delta Radio LLC
 
Re: WROX/WKXY - The REAL story...

> > WROX has gone off the air, but stand by because it will
> > return in about two weeks under new management.
>
> Ok, here's the real story. Jason Konarz never was the owner.
> He was merely operating the station pursuant to an LMA. I
> pulled the plug on him because he was way behind on his LMA
> payments and making no effort to get caught up. We're buying
> a building to move the studio into and also building a new
> transmitter building. We'll be back on-air with the American
> Blues Network sometime this summer. The FM will be applying
> to go to 6kw at 100m (that's the power increase George was
> referring to).
>
> Larry Fuss
> Delta Radio LLC
>

Thanks for the explaination. I enjoy listening to WROX and am glad to hear your returning at least the FM to blues, even if it's on the bird. It's too bad Jason didn't take better care of your license and make sure you were paid properly. I commend him for trying, but I guess it just didn't work out. Hopefully you won't have pay large sums of cash to the Commission for what happened on his watch. Hopefully soon I'll once again hear George Hinds on my (virtual) Rad-e-i-o!

Good luck,<P ID="signature">______________
--- THE Insultant ---</P>
 
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