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WSAH to become RTN Affiliate July 1!

That is great news. In the NYC area, WSAH is available on Verizon Fios channel 19 and Directv channel 43. I don't know of any cable companies in the area that carry it. I'm pretty sure Comcast does not.
 
:eek: Wow, I've been saying for years how that station was an untapped resource. I'm particulary estatic because I can see the station's transmitter as we speak. I have to credit Mr. Kim for doing more for that station in his short period of ownership than anyone has done with it in 50 years! ;D Now I just hope they don't go moving their transmitter from Great Hill in Seymour to NYC, that would just go and ruin it for everyone!
 
oldschooltv said:
Now I just hope they don't go moving their transmitter from Great Hill in Seymour to NYC, that would just go and ruin it for everyone!
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They have a pending application to move to the Empire State Building.
 
I am so excited that they are doing this! Living in a hole in Seymour surrounded by hills I hope I will be able to pick it up since it's not on my DirecTV. Between going with Retro Television it would be nice if they do some of the public service TV I had seen in the past. Hopefully they won't move to Empire since it sounds like they will actually have some good programming.

I think 43 could really give 8 a run for its money if they did a local newscast. As I had said in these forums previously, if they were to partner with News 12 Connecticut and carry their newscast, even for one of their prime hours (6, 10 or 11) I think they would slaughter 8 and make their TV property a valuable asset. I would hope they would consider something like this and not let an idea like this whither on the vine.
 
I'm hoping DISH Network (and even DirecTV) can pick up WSAH. The reason I say this is because in the past year they have added WHCT (Channel 38) and WHPX (ION-Channel 26), and to me, come July, WSAH will have it over these two very small stations. I e-mailed DISH's customer service. I don't think it will do much good, but it doesn't hurt to try.
 
TV38Fan said:
I'm hoping DISH Network (and even DirecTV) can pick up WSAH.
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Directv already carries WSAH as part of the NYC locals. WSAH is a NYC market TV station more than a Hartford TV station. Do any cable systems north of Fairfield county carry WSAH?
 
ansky212 said:
TV38Fan said:
I'm hoping DISH Network (and even DirecTV) can pick up WSAH.
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Directv already carries WSAH as part of the NYC locals. WSAH is a NYC market TV station more than a Hartford TV station. Do any cable systems north of Fairfield county carry WSAH?
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Comcast Seymour, Danbury, New Haven, Cox Meriden and Manchester, Charter Newtown, AT&T uVerse.

Also Cablevision Norwalk, Cablevision Westchester, Verizon FiOS, DirecTV and Dish NYC.
 
Ron said:
Comcast Seymour, Danbury, New Haven, Cox Meriden and Manchester, Charter Newtown, AT&T uVerse.

Also Cablevision Norwalk, Cablevision Westchester, Verizon FiOS, DirecTV and Dish NYC.
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I wish it was on COMCAST Plainville/Hartford. Then I'd be able to enjoy great classic tv shows here in Bristol. I somehow doubt that WSAH will ever be available on the Comcast system here because the only out of market channel they carry is PBS affiliate WGBY-DT out of Springfield, Mass. Now if WSAH were piggy-backing on the digital sub-channels of one of the Hartford stations it might get added. I know that's how Telefutura got on Comcast line-up here and on the U-Verse line-up. WUTH-CA 47 is on sister station WUVN-DT channel 18.3.
 
MarcB said:
I wish it was on COMCAST Plainville/Hartford. Then I'd be able to enjoy great classic tv shows here in Bristol. I somehow doubt that WSAH will ever be available on the Comcast system here because the only out of market channel they carry is PBS affiliate WGBY-DT out of Springfield, Mass.
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Does WSAH have any "must carry" agreements? Since they have applied to move their transmitter to the Empire State Building I don't think any "must carry" agreement would apply in the Hartford area.
 
ansky212 said:
Does WSAH have any "must carry" agreements? Since they have applied to move their transmitter to the Empire State Building I don't think any "must carry" agreement would apply in the Hartford area.
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Just about every station that isn't a big three (5?? now, however many there are this week) affiliate has must carry agreements. The cable systems want to do their absolute minimum best, so why would they carry the likes of WHPX, WSAH, WUVN, etc etc etc if they didnt HAVE to. There are two forces at work, must carry, where the station essentially demands carriage based on law and "retransmission consent" where the cable system wants to carry it (they had better carry ABC/CBS, etc or they wont be in business long). The station can give its blessing or demand money... this is the basis of the fights you see every three years where "so and so will no longer be carried on XXX systems". Someone buckles at the last minute.

Of course, if the transmitter location changes, this all changes. You'll see alot of lineup changes in New Haven and Hartford counties. You will also see deals made for digital carriage and other stuff I'd rather not get into, but the best and brightest DC attorneys have thought all this through already.
 
WSAH already has must-carry in the New York market and not the Hartford market, at least on satellite, due to the city-of-license being in the New York DMA.

- Trip
 
tripinva said:
WSAH already has must-carry in the New York market and not the Hartford market, at least on satellite, due to the city-of-license being in the New York DMA.

- Trip
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They definitely don't have "must carry" on cable. None of the cable systems in North Jersey carry WSAH that I'm aware of. Only Directv and Verizon carry it here.
 
Ironically I reside in the same town as the transmitter and can't reliably pick up WSAH due to the surrounding terrain. I'm going to try again this weekend after all the analog goes away to see if anything is better. What's even more ironic is that my DirecTV service doesn't have it as part of New Haven County locals.
 
Bill DeFelice said:
Ironically I reside in the same town as the transmitter and can't reliably pick up WSAH due to the surrounding terrain. I'm going to try again this weekend after all the analog goes away to see if anything is better. What's even more ironic is that my DirecTV service doesn't have it as part of New Haven County locals.
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The analog has been gone since July 4, 2008. If you arent getting it, you aren't going to get it.
 
ansky212 said:
They definitely don't have "must carry" on cable. None of the cable systems in North Jersey carry WSAH that I'm aware of. Only Directv and Verizon carry it here.
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That is because the law does not support the argument. A cable system MUST carry a station within something like a 35 mile radius of their principal head end, and above that, the station can demand carriage if the head end is outside the 35 mi radius, but still places a grade B signal over them. Outside that, the cable system can, and usually does, argue for a market modification.

Since we do not place a grade B signal over their principal headend, we're out of luck. We can choose to deliver the signal by other means, this is what we did with Direct, Dish and Fios. Picking up 30K subscribers in Podunk NJ wouldn't be worth the expense. 1 million odd subs on EACH DBS provider was definitely worth it.

We also provide our signal to uVerse via fiber, but they provided that on their own at launch. They wanted to have a huge, better than cable, lineup when they started. If someone comes along now, they'd have to do the must carry dance.
 
A few stations are lucky however.

WTVE-51 licensed to Reading, PA managed to get on cable in Southeast NJ, and there's a 80 mile difference between Reading, PA and Vineland, NJ (as crow flies) and no signal reach obviously. They got on Suburban cable, before Comcast acquisition and pre-digital cable era, and Suburban cable didn't protest. Now that area is serviced by Comcast, and WTVE's owners have changed, but the must-carry remains in place and they have historical carriage in place now, too to prevent deletion.

Additionally a station on the border of 2 DMAs can try to get a market modification petition.
WMCN-Atlantic City was awarded one for Ocean County, NJ (New York DMA) carriage.

To this day, several Philly network stations have moved to digital only status on Comcast,
but WMCN remains with New York stations in the most available tier.
 
Ron said:
ansky212 said:
TV38Fan said:
I'm hoping DISH Network (and even DirecTV) can pick up WSAH.
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Directv already carries WSAH as part of the NYC locals. WSAH is a NYC market TV station more than a Hartford TV station. Do any cable systems north of Fairfield county carry WSAH?
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Comcast Seymour, Danbury, New Haven, Cox Meriden and Manchester, Charter Newtown, AT&T uVerse.

Also Cablevision Norwalk, Cablevision Westchester, Verizon FiOS, DirecTV and Dish NYC.
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I do not see this station on analog Cox Manchester. Is it on a digital tier?
 
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