Just to clear the air. WSBX AM 1020 licensed in Ochlocknee GA and targeting Tallahassee as a market is returning to the airwaves on 12/17/08. Aside from the AM signal we are on the internet which counts according to Arbitron. We will be adding an FM signal in 2009 as well. If folks could give us an idea how we reach and how far would be appreciated. To the Moderators, I am not attempting self promotion here, I am just asking for feedback...
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WSBX
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How much power are you putting into your stick, and how high in the air will it be?
fwillis said:Woody: I can recieve 730 and 840 AM from Thomasville on my car radio, well over a hundred miles. Holler when you fire it up, and I'll give you a reception report.
Ok Freddy will do, also, I found the manual for the Medalist. Shall I send it to the P.O. Box 1472 ?
Witchlover said:How much power are you putting into your stick, and how high in the air will it be?
We are licensed at 10KW at 230 Feet daytime, and we have pre and post authority at lower power.
WJEPPD said:Witchlover said:How much power are you putting into your stick, and how high in the air will it be?
We are licensed at 10KW at 230 Feet daytime, and we have pre and post authority at lower power.
I was asking about the particlars for your future FM facility. Sorry for the confusion! But if Freddy reports good reception of Thomasville stations, one should anticipate similar results for WSBX. It will be interesting to hear reports once you get back on the air. Unfortunately, I cannot help by reporting what I hear as I am too far east to receive you off the air.
Witchlover said:WJEPPD said:Witchlover said:How much power are you putting into your stick, and how high in the air will it be?
We are licensed at 10KW at 230 Feet daytime, and we have pre and post authority at lower power.
I was asking about the particlars for your future FM facility. Sorry for the confusion! But if Freddy reports good reception of Thomasville stations, one should anticipate similar results for WSBX. It will be interesting to hear reports once you get back on the air. Unfortunately, I cannot help by reporting what I hear as I am too far east to receive you off the air.
From what I understand, and I am not an engineer, nor have I ever claimed to be one, the FM Translator would be atop the existing tower running 250 watts at 238 feet above ground level and 625 feet above average terrain as we sit on a hill at the highest point in the county and our COL is at like 198 feet.
Also on another note we finally figured out what blew the previous transmitter mainly the Harris MW10A. Someone, I don't know who, moronically put 125 amp fuses in the 3 phase power box that are rated for 60 amps each. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that either someone didn't know what they were doing and shouldn't be messing with fuses or someone purposely put them there as an act of sabotage. I am investigating because if we would have powered up the new unit it would have blown up the building according to my electricians. Now we are in a holding pattern until these new fuses arrive which we hope will be by the end of the week as they were a special order item. Then we are locked and loaded. In the meantime we got listed on I-Tunes and we have more listeners than we know what to do with...Our TV AD campaign on CNS Cable starts tomorrow too...
I have seen people put higher-rated fuses in a circuit when the properly rated fuses keep blowing -- and they are not competent enough to understand the consequences. In this case, perhaps calling it sabotage is giving someone more credit than this person deserves. Sounds more like bone stupidity to me. It is well that you discovered this before you blew something up.
Witchlover said:I have seen people put higher-rated fuses in a circuit when the properly rated fuses keep blowing -- and they are not competent enough to understand the consequences. In this case, perhaps calling it sabotage is giving someone more credit than this person deserves. Sounds more like bone stupidity to me. It is well that you discovered this before you blew something up.
Ya I guess bone head would be a niceity...oh and as for the Harris MW10A, I think I will sink it in my lake as an artificial habitat for Bass and other fish...
fwillis said:Sabotage would take a sick puppy.At the least it would have fried the xmitter, and burned the building down. Woody and his mom are good people, sorry to hear about the problem.
Thank you for the kind words. I am just glad we caught it before we powered up. These fuses we feel were maliciously put in the breaker panel and since the Harris was fried we never tested it. Thank God we have an electrician who is observant. We found the old 60 amp fuses in a drawer next to the box and they were blown. So someone put these 125's in prior to us closing on the property most likely around the time they fried their Harris. Even if someone else had bought this pig in a poke they would have had the same problem...
I'll risk the ire of the moderator here and suggest you consult an attorney and inform your insurance company. I think an argument can be made that the sellers ought to foot the bills for the repairs, not your company. At the least of it, someone knew that improper fuses were installed, as they had the originals at hand for comparison. Woody, you folks dodged a bullet. A generous bonus for your electician is in order.
WJEPPD said:Ya I guess bone head would be a niceity...oh and as for the Harris MW10A, I think I will sink it in my lake as an artificial habitat for Bass and other fish...
By all means, lay it to rest with appropriate ceremony and honor. If you are serious about sinking it for an artificial reef, contact the Georgia Department of Natural Resources; they'll fill you in on what you must do to make it environmentally acceptable. The state just sank some surplus NYC subway cars off the coast to serve as the substrate for an artificial reef. They have a reef renourishment program, and your old Harris may be something they can use.
The engineer here at my cluster is laughing his fool head off on this... Very hard to miss the fact that a fuse is 125 amps simply by trying to insert it into the clips, it wont fit.WJEPPD said:Also on another note we finally figured out what blew the previous transmitter mainly the Harris MW10A. Someone, I don't know who, moronically put 125 amp fuses in the 3 phase power box that are rated for 60 amps each.
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MN Maniac
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On the North Florida board, it's mentioned that WSBX will be targeting Tallahassee. Yet, according to radio-locator.com, the primary signal contour will not reach that far.
Under the new FCC rules, FM translators can now rebroadcast AM stations in some instances. Would it be possible to secure an FM translator in Tallahassee and use it to rebroadcast WSBX? Either by WSBX or (if the FM-FM contour rules also apply to AM rebroadcasts), by a "third party?"
Under the new FCC rules, FM translators can now rebroadcast AM stations in some instances. Would it be possible to secure an FM translator in Tallahassee and use it to rebroadcast WSBX? Either by WSBX or (if the FM-FM contour rules also apply to AM rebroadcasts), by a "third party?"
I am not an engineer, but I would assume that they could get an STA for a translator near Thomasville and IF they could set up some rig that would receive the FM signal from the Thomasville translator at the Tallahassee translator site they could get on the air in Tallahassee.
Another option would be to lease an HD-2 channel of a station in the market and simulcast WSBX-AM. That W???-HD2 signal could then be rebroadcast on a translator in Tallahassee or any place that could receive W???-HD2.
A translator in Tallahassee would probably cost at least 10 times as much as one north of the state line.
In other words, unlikely.
Another option would be to lease an HD-2 channel of a station in the market and simulcast WSBX-AM. That W???-HD2 signal could then be rebroadcast on a translator in Tallahassee or any place that could receive W???-HD2.
A translator in Tallahassee would probably cost at least 10 times as much as one north of the state line.
In other words, unlikely.
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JohnAllan
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MN Maniac said:On the North Florida board, it's mentioned that WSBX will be targeting Tallahassee. Yet, according to radio-locator.com, the primary signal contour will not reach that far.
Under the new FCC rules, FM translators can now rebroadcast AM stations in some instances. Would it be possible to secure an FM translator in Tallahassee and use it to rebroadcast WSBX? Either by WSBX or (if the FM-FM contour rules also apply to AM rebroadcasts), by a "third party?"
Just so you'll know, I'm dealing with the translator issue right now in another market. The translator CAN NOT exceed the coverage pattern of the AM station it rebroadcasts. So in answer to your question, no they can't have an FM translator in Tallahassee.
JohnAllan said:MN Maniac said:On the North Florida board, it's mentioned that WSBX will be targeting Tallahassee. Yet, according to radio-locator.com, the primary signal contour will not reach that far.
Under the new FCC rules, FM translators can now rebroadcast AM stations in some instances. Would it be possible to secure an FM translator in Tallahassee and use it to rebroadcast WSBX? Either by WSBX or (if the FM-FM contour rules also apply to AM rebroadcasts), by a "third party?"
Just so you'll know, I'm dealing with the translator issue right now in another market. The translator CAN NOT exceed the coverage pattern of the AM station it rebroadcasts. So in answer to your question, no they can't have an FM translator in Tallahassee.
Yes but we can easily move south to cover Tally better and still cover greater than 70% of our current C.O.L. which by the way is a slowly dieing town. I really want to help revitalize the cute little town, but if it ceases to exist in the near future we would have to move anyways I would think and there is plenty of cheap swampy land just over the stateline in Florida...
JohnAllan said:Just so you'll know, I'm dealing with the translator issue right now in another market. The translator CAN NOT exceed the coverage pattern of the AM station it rebroadcasts. So in answer to your question, no they can't have an FM translator in Tallahassee.
Since you know what you're talking about and I'm ignorant to the subject, could you tell me (us) why he couldn't "daisy chain" a string of translators to get an FM signal into Tallahassee or what would keep him from leasing the HD2 channel of a station covering Tallahassee and use that to feed a translator? Not that it would be possible to begin with, I think FSU owns all the available translator frequencies in Tallahassee. Also, I realize either of these ideas would cost far too much.
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