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WSGS Service Area Reduction

They're common here in Central Indiana...WKKG 101.5, WIBC 93.1, WXCH 102.9 come to mind.
 
Maybe I should have said I personally have never worked with or seen in a top mount FM antenna. I have seen lots of TV top mounts with FM's stuck on the side. I know there are pictures on the Fybush site. Most of the stuff I have worked for was built by "the lowest bidder".
 
Saw another prominent one over the weekend...WGNR 97.9 Anderson,IN...if you're ever on I-69 around mile 22, it's easy to spot about a mile to the north. It's cheaper to build a tower and slap the antenna on the side and hope for the best. Towers built just for FM will sometimes be outfitted with a top mount pole to get a signal that comes closer to carrying equally well in all directions, but even the top mounted ones have a notch behind the pole in the vertical polarity. Those who are serious about having a perfectly omni-directional signal choose a panel antenna with antenna bays on all 3 sides of the tower...these are very expensive compared to other choices but there will be no 'dead spots' caused by the antenna system itself when this option is elected.
 
radiorob2.0 said:
BobOnTheJob said:
WSGS 101.1/Hazard,KY has a construction permit to reduce their height while maintaining their power. The result will be a small reduction in coverage and with multi-path so troublesome in that area, the height reduction will probably aggravate that as well. Obviously someone has paid them to take this downgrade from class C to Class C0...Any idea who benefits from this?

There is a CP for a translator at 101.1 Lexington but that wouldn't be the culprit. I agree lowering the antenna would be trouble in that area.

I saw a 100.9 and a 101.3 in Lexington but, no 101.1.
 
There is a translator on 101.1 in Lawrenceburg. I believe it repeats the NPR station from Louisville. It can be heard into Woodford County, just west of Versailles.
 
WSGS has an STA to operate at 10% power on a damaged antenna...that damage happened over 2 years ago! The latest extension of the STA says they were weeks away from having their relocated site on the air...and that was filed 4 months ago. This STA expires in Feb 2012. Now I don't know about anyone else, but if I even suggested operating with an antenna so messed up that it would only handle 10% of normal power (most of which is certainly being reflected back) for more than a couple of weeks, I'd have lost a client. Maybe they do things different down that way????????
 
shreveville said:
So is WSGS the only full Class C in Kentucky?

No, there are about 6 of them as I recall. WSTO in Owensboro is another one. (They used to be printed in the FCC Table of Allottments in 73.202 but I'm not seeing that now in the web version.)

But I don't believe any of the 6 Kentucky full Cs are completely built out to a max Class C. Even WSGS is only 446 meters above average terrain. They could have gone almost 500' higher than that. (Barring interference issues.)
 
shreveville said:
So is WSGS the only full Class C in Kentucky?

Depends on how you define "full Class C"...

In the FCC Database (http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/fmq.html), there are four C's listed in Kentucky:

WBKR-92.5 Owensboro (100kw/320m)
WQHY-95.5 Prestonsburg (100kw/305m)
WSTO-96.1 Owensboro (100kw/305m)
WSGS-101.1 Hazard (100kw/446m)

All of these stations are, however, below Class C minima. (100kw/451m) All will remain Class C *until/unless* someone petitions to have one reclassified to C0. (that will happen if someone wants to do an upgrade that would be short-spaced to a full Class C) (if that does happen, the affected Class C station gets an opportunity to file an application to upgrade to 451m or more)
 
w9wi said:
shreveville said:
So is WSGS the only full Class C in Kentucky?

Depends on how you define "full Class C"...

In the FCC Database (http Wasn't://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/fmq.html), there are four C's listed in Kentucky:

WBKR-92.5 Owensboro (100kw/320m)
WQHY-95.5 Prestonsburg (100kw/305m)
WSTO-96.1 Owensboro (100kw/305m)
WSGS-101.1 Hazard (100kw/446m)

Wasn't WPAY one of these also? Even though they were licensed in Ohio, their stock was in KY.
All of these stations are, however, below Class C minima. (100kw/451m) All will remain Class C *until/unless* someone petitions to have one reclassified to C0. (that will happen if someone wants to do an upgrade that would be short-spaced to a full Class C) (if that does happen, the affected Class C station gets an opportunity to file an application to upgrade to 451m or more)
 
Hoosierky said:
Wasn't WPAY one of these also? Even though they were licensed in Ohio, their stock was in KY.

The station that was WPAY is now a C0. (450m) However, since there was no such thing as a C0 (or C1, C2, or C3) until Docket 80-90 came along, WPAY was indeed a full C before that point.
 
w9wi said:
shreveville said:
So is WSGS the only full Class C in Kentucky?

Depends on how you define "full Class C"...

In the FCC Database (http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/fmq.html), there are four C's listed in Kentucky:

WBKR-92.5 Owensboro (100kw/320m)
WQHY-95.5 Prestonsburg (100kw/305m)
WSTO-96.1 Owensboro (100kw/305m)
WSGS-101.1 Hazard (100kw/446m)

All of these stations are, however, below Class C minima. (100kw/451m) All will remain Class C *until/unless* someone petitions to have one reclassified to C0. (that will happen if someone wants to do an upgrade that would be short-spaced to a full Class C) (if that does happen, the affected Class C station gets an opportunity to file an application to upgrade to 451m or more)
What is 100KW WAMZ 97.5 Louisville listed as? And aren't 98.1/92.9/94.5/Lexington 100KW's? Or does their height below 300 meters automatically place them in class C1?
 
BobOnTheJob said:
w9wi said:
shreveville said:
So is WSGS the only full Class C in Kentucky?

Depends on how you define "full Class C"...

In the FCC Database (http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/fmq.html), there are four C's listed in Kentucky:

WBKR-92.5 Owensboro (100kw/320m)
WQHY-95.5 Prestonsburg (100kw/305m)
WSTO-96.1 Owensboro (100kw/305m)
WSGS-101.1 Hazard (100kw/446m)

All of these stations are, however, below Class C minima. (100kw/451m) All will remain Class C *until/unless* someone petitions to have one reclassified to C0. (that will happen if someone wants to do an upgrade that would be short-spaced to a full Class C) (if that does happen, the affected Class C station gets an opportunity to file an application to upgrade to 451m or more)
What is 100KW WAMZ 97.5 Louisville listed as? And aren't 98.1/92.9/94.5/Lexington 100KW's? Or does their height below 300 meters automatically place them in class C1?

WAMZ is a C1, and they aren't even a full C1. Their HAAT is 205 meters.... almost 300 feet short.
 
Hoosierky said:
w9wi said:
shreveville said:
So is WSGS the only full Class C in Kentucky?

Depends on how you define "full Class C"...

In the FCC Database (http Wasn't://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/fmq.html), there are four C's listed in Kentucky:

WBKR-92.5 Owensboro (100kw/320m)
WQHY-95.5 Prestonsburg (100kw/305m)
WSTO-96.1 Owensboro (100kw/305m)
WSGS-101.1 Hazard (100kw/446m)

Wasn't WPAY one of these also? Even though they were licensed in Ohio, their stock was in KY.
All of these stations are, however, below Class C minima. (100kw/451m) All will remain Class C *until/unless* someone petitions to have one reclassified to C0. (that will happen if someone wants to do an upgrade that would be short-spaced to a full Class C) (if that does happen, the affected Class C station gets an opportunity to file an application to upgrade to 451m or more)
Um Last time I checked WGGC Bowling Green 95.1 was 314m@ 100kw
 
jwhite6069 said:
Hoosierky said:
w9wi said:
shreveville said:
So is WSGS the only full Class C in Kentucky?

Depends on how you define "full Class C"...

In the FCC Database (http Wasn't://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/fmq.html), there are four C's listed in Kentucky:

WBKR-92.5 Owensboro (100kw/320m)
WQHY-95.5 Prestonsburg (100kw/305m)
WSTO-96.1 Owensboro (100kw/305m)
WSGS-101.1 Hazard (100kw/446m)

Wasn't WPAY one of these also? Even though they were licensed in Ohio, their stock was in KY.
All of these stations are, however, below Class C minima. (100kw/451m) All will remain Class C *until/unless* someone petitions to have one reclassified to C0. (that will happen if someone wants to do an upgrade that would be short-spaced to a full Class C) (if that does happen, the affected Class C station gets an opportunity to file an application to upgrade to 451m or more)
Um Last time I checked WGGC Bowling Green 95.1 was 314m@ 100kw

As well as WVVR. Interesting list...

Wait a minute, didn't WVVR submit a CP to stay C1 a while back?
 
No trace of them here 80 miles north of Louisville this morning. I phased out WIZF/Erlanger but only noise was left. The band was hot last night....picked up Mountain Home,AR and a couple from the Springfield,MO area that were beyond 400 miles and only about 70 miles from Oklahoma. That may be why they made it into Georgetown.
 
BobOnTheJob said:
No trace of them here 80 miles north of Louisville this morning. I phased out WIZF/Erlanger but only noise was left. The band was hot last night....picked up Mountain Home,AR and a couple from the Springfield,MO area that were beyond 400 miles and only about 70 miles from Oklahoma. That may be why they made it into Georgetown.
What kind of setup do you have there?
 
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