WSM INTERFERENCE

[radionekkid]

their too much wrong info on radioinfo about wsm. WSM by itself not make any real money kash-flow in a long time maybe back to 1978 when len hensil was there. Lived in shadow of TV amd FM too long. WSMAM still very low in ratings near the bottom and listners getting very very old what few there are left like me. dave is 100 % and might have got his numbers from miller kaplan a cpa firm that tracks radio revenues and report to subscribers. I don't like it either but it is the truth. There is a lot of emotion about this but just listen to what is runing on the air all you have to do is listen and these is no big clients on there all barter or low dollar stuff. wsm am should have changed to talk back in 1970s when wsb, wlw and wbt changed over. to think any other way is fooling yourself and not looking at the facts. when they have to stary payin performance royalty fee will be all over then.The truth hurts but facts is facts and so is figures.

 

[MikeStandardsFromIndiana]

the WSM Loyalists had a cow back in the late 90's when there was talk of WSM flipping to an All Sports station and they had a cow over it

 

[davideduardo]

You being here in Nashville at WMAK was over 30 years ago.

I wasn't in Nashville... our company's most important station, revenue-wise, was. Gerry Adaams was GM. I was at other stations in the company, including Birmingham, which soon outbilled Nashville. But, since we had regular manager's conferences and meetings, I was very familiar with the dynamics of the market.

WSM-AM was not full time country in the 70's.

Nobody said they were.

Where you’re getting your numbers from, who knows, and who cares.

They are coming from the most reliable and widest used source inside the industry.

I'm just telling you that WSM-AM is not going anywhere. You’re not the only one that has said that WSM-AM is fading out into the sunset. Others have said it too. The country music industry will keep it alive.

The highly unprofitable does not have the interest and wherewithal to do anything about a station nearly nobody listens too. If they care about something, it is stations like KKGO in LA, where over one million listeners tune in, not WSM where less than 50,000 people, mostly over 60 and not in the music buying demos, still tune in.

Not just Hispanics, but when any human being that can't find what they want to hear on FM will go to AM.

No, they won't. People under a certain age barely know AM exists.

Now I've been around WVOL since 1981. It's always been a Black Station, even during the times that Cal Young, R.W. Rounsaville, and Lew Dickey owned it, who were all white men. They are NOT Rhythmic Oldies!

The station itself advised Arbitron on its SIP that the format is "Rhythmic Oldies." Since you don't own it, I will take their word for it.

I listen to the station almost everyday, and stop in from time to time. On Saturday's, all day long, it's Blues at WVOL, just like WDIA is. WVOL has been on almost as long as WDIA. When it comes to WVOL, I know what I'm talking about because I've worked there! It WAS a black station when you were at WMAK! For a long time in the 80's, I was the only white jock there. Sam Howard owned WVOL when I worked there.
Out of respect of others, I'm not going to argue with you.

WVOL is no more like WDIA than a guppy is like a whale. A station with nearly no listening hardly compares with a major force in Memphis radio that is at or near the top consistently, even today.

WVOL bit the radio dust when WQQK went to an r&b format... and that was nearly 30 years ago

 

[radiorob2.0]

The rumor is WSM and the Opry are a package deal. That's why Cumulus operated the station but didn't own the license. These days Gaylord's focus is hotels and have little initiative for its last broadcast property. Until Gaylord decides to break up the set or someone is willing to purchase the set, WSM will wither away.

However, I could testify to the listener loyalty. Ten years ago, I was involved with marketing for a concert facility. We would utilize WSM when we booked country, specifically classic artist. As tickets were purchased we would ask about how they heard about the show. WSM stood out among responses we received. Of course, that was ten years ago.

Hindsight being 20/20, WSM should have switched/or evolved to news talk years ago. There isn't a rule saying the Opry could not run a news/talk station, it ran on a MOR station for years. I've often wonder if WLAC jumping into news/talk derailed any long term plain for WSM.

 

[scottwmro]

You being here in Nashville at WMAK was over 30 years ago.

I wasn't in Nashville... our company's most important station, revenue-wise, was. Gerry Adaams was GM. I was at other stations in the company, including Birmingham, which soon outbilled Nashville. But, since we had regular manager's conferences and meetings, I was very familiar with the dynamics of the market.

WSM-AM was not full time country in the 70's.

Nobody said they were.

Where you’re getting your numbers from, who knows, and who cares.

They are coming from the most reliable and widest used source inside the industry.

I'm just telling you that WSM-AM is not going anywhere. You’re not the only one that has said that WSM-AM is fading out into the sunset. Others have said it too. The country music industry will keep it alive.

The highly unprofitable does not have the interest and wherewithal to do anything about a station nearly nobody listens too. If they care about something, it is stations like KKGO in LA, where over one million listeners tune in, not WSM where less than 50,000 people, mostly over 60 and not in the music buying demos, still tune in.

Not just Hispanics, but when any human being that can't find what they want to hear on FM will go to AM.

No, they won't. People under a certain age barely know AM exists.

Now I've been around WVOL since 1981. It's always been a Black Station, even during the times that Cal Young, R.W. Rounsaville, and Lew Dickey owned it, who were all white men. They are NOT Rhythmic Oldies!

The station itself advised Arbitron on its SIP that the format is "Rhythmic Oldies." Since you don't own it, I will take their word for it.

I listen to the station almost everyday, and stop in from time to time. On Saturday's, all day long, it's Blues at WVOL, just like WDIA is. WVOL has been on almost as long as WDIA. When it comes to WVOL, I know what I'm talking about because I've worked there! It WAS a black station when you were at WMAK! For a long time in the 80's, I was the only white jock there. Sam Howard owned WVOL when I worked there.
Out of respect of others, I'm not going to argue with you.

WVOL is no more like WDIA than a guppy is like a whale. A station with nearly no listening hardly compares with a major force in Memphis radio that is at or near the top consistently, even today.

WVOL bit the radio dust when WQQK went to an r&b format... and that was nearly 30 years ago

David,
Why don't you got to WVOL's website and you'll see a different story. Listen to John Heidelburg's WVOL stream. During the day, it mostly talk. At night, I even heard the Beatles on WVOL. Don't go by old station listings, stations like WVOL change alot. John Heidelberg, who owns WVOL, will tell you what he's doing. Call 615-227-1470, and he'll tell you. One day, John got mad and being John worked at WSM-AM for 25 years, he played Country Music on WVOL. It was funny! I think you probably know John from WSM-AM.

 

[davideduardo]

David,
Why don't you got to WVOL's website and you'll see a different story.

The station itself sent a fall, 2009 SIP to Arbitron stating its format as "Rhythmic Oldies." That form was only sent in a couple of months ago, before the start of the Fall book.

Don't go by old station listings, stations like WVOL change alot.

So either they fully changed format in the last 60 days, or the station lied to Arbitron in the SIP. Is that what you are sayin?

John Heidelberg, who owns WVOL, will tell you what he's doing. Call 615-227-1470, and he'll tell you.

He already told Arbitron, around September of this year, that he was doing Rhythmic Oldies.

One day, John got mad and being John worked at WSM-AM for 25 years, he played Country Music on WVOL. It was funny!

I'm sure that the core Black audience was laughing hard as they changed station. Perhaps that sort of foolishness is why WVOL has nothing to the left of the decimal point in the share column.

Is your station still on the air?

 

[SuperRadioFan]

Where you’re getting your numbers from, who knows, and who cares.

They are coming from the most reliable and widest used source inside the industry.

Maybe he wanted to know the name of your source????

 

[davideduardo]

Where you’re getting your numbers from, who knows, and who cares.

They are coming from the most reliable and widest used source inside the industry.

Maybe he wanted to know the name of your source????

Anyone in management knows that could only be MK or BIA.

 

[wkbam1690]

A look at the ground conductivity map of the United States, would make a person think WBAP should have a very large daytime coverage map. Conductivity in Texas and surrounding areas vary from good to excellent (8-30).

Of course, most already know 5 KW 570/WNAX in Yankton SD has the largest daytime coverage area in the country.

How about 1530/WCKY? Is it a regular at your locations?

KFYR 550 in Bismarck, ND has a massive daytime signal, also.

 

[BRNout]

KFYR 550 in Bismarck, ND has a massive daytime signal, also.

Yes they do and I was listening to them clearly when driving through central South Dakota this summer - midday in August. It's a good 200 miles from their tx site to the closest point on I-90. Very clear near Chamberlain, which is a little farther still. They were quite listenable for about an hour, so a good 75 miles through central SD, and I could have dxed them farther but was busily tuning around to see what else was on aside from Rush.

 

[BobOnTheJob]

I still say that the best daytime coverage in the USA is actually in Canada...540 CBK Watrous,SK easily reaches Mount Rushmore at 400 miles...and there was still more miles left in that signal. It carries east 400 miles + on I-94 until KWMT Cedar Rapids,IA starts challenging it.

 

[BRNout]

I agree with CBK - thanks to a killer combination of a low dial position, 50 kw, and great ground conductivity - it has the best GW signal in North America. Got it like a local all day long in Calgary and Edmonton - both are 250 or so miles from Watrous.

 

[MarcB]

I picked up WSM in the parking lot of Price Chopper in Bristol, CT last Tuesday when I was waiting for a friend.