WTBS-LP on 87.75?

[Avid Listener]

This is not name calling. A "conspiracy theory" is where, beyond all evidence, a belief is held that there is irregularity behind the scenes scheming and plotting and no transparency.

There is no shortage of evidence, though you will reject any evidence that doesn't conform to your own agenda of self-interest as not being reliable.

The situation did not just occur from one day to the next. It has been building for 9 to 12 months, and the ads were based on dealing with an already expanding problem or situation.

You keep harping on about this being about Central American youths. It's not. That's only a tiny piece of the problem, the latest development in a plague that has afflicted America for a long, long time. The border has been leaking like a sieve for decades. There are illegal alien criminals who have been in this country for decades. When the number of incoming illegal aliens slacks off a bit, that still doesn't address the issue of all the illegal aliens who are here now. It doesn't address the hordes of illegal alien criminals who were turned loose from prison but not deported back to where they belong. It doesn't address the public facilities in many states being overwhelmed by illegal aliens living off the American tax payer.

 

[davideduardo]

You keep harping on about this being about Central American youths. It's not. That's only a tiny piece of the problem, .

But that is the current problem.

While undocumented adult immigrants from Latin America have been exceeded in number by those here who have returned to their homeland for the last 7 years, this recent surge in child immigrants is a new phenomenon sanctioned to some extent by a very recent piece of legislation.

 

[Guy Sharpe]

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Well, this has been the most interesting post in quite a while. Nothing to do with radio, but radio has been boring since Burkhart-Abrams.

Ok, wing-nuts, riddle me this. How in the heck can you keep someone from jumping the US/Mex border when there is 1,933 miles of it? If over 100 prisoners escaped from Auschwitz, what could you possibly do to keep people out?

 

[Avid Listener]

While undocumented adult immigrants from Latin America have been exceeded in number by those here who have returned to their homeland for the last 7 years, this recent surge in child immigrants is a new phenomenon sanctioned to some extent by a very recent piece of legislation.

And pray tell, given that there is no real enforcement of our border laws, just how the hell do you know how many illegal aliens are coming in and going out? Is this another statistic that's about as reliable as the radio ratings system? What is your source of accurate information about how many people snuck across the border in either direction? Remember, when someone is sneaking across a border, they aren't exactly registering with some official responsible for counting them.

And for crying out loud, they aren't "undocumented adult immigrants". Calling illegal aliens "undocumented adult immigrants" is like calling the illegal aliens who are flooding our inner cities with heroin and cocaine as "unlicensed pharmacists".

 

[davideduardo]

And pray tell, given that there is no real enforcement of our border laws, just how the hell do you know how many illegal aliens are coming in and going out? Is this another statistic that's about as reliable as the radio ratings system? What is your source of accurate information about how many people snuck across the border in either direction? Remember, when someone is sneaking across a border, they aren't exactly registering with some official responsible for counting them.

There are several independent agencies as well as ICE who issue estimates of illegal immigration. Not only do they use figures such as the estimates of the percentage of apprehensions vs the unapprehended, but they also cross check all manner of other information to see the difference between organic population growth and total growth (based on dwelling unit occupancies and other data) which dimensions the population of those not legally in the country. Some of the sources include data on hospital admissions of people with no papers, utility connections, and so on. They also use Claritas and even US Census data to show the total population. While the figures are estimates, all sources believe they are within a few percent of a fully accurate total.

You vastly underestimate the current ability of the nation's data mining and statistical capabilities.

And for crying out loud, they aren't "undocumented adult immigrants". Calling illegal aliens "undocumented adult immigrants" is like calling the illegal aliens who are flooding our inner cities with heroin and cocaine as "unlicensed pharmacists".

I used the term undocumented adult immigrants to distinguish between those who traditionally come across our borders illegally from the children who started arriving in October of last year who show up and immediately look for a Border Patrol agent to turn themselves in to.

 

[ContinuousWave]

Well...I had no idea my post would be turned into a hot debate over immigration. My bad for including the word "Spanish" to describe what I heard on 87.75MHz.

It was been learned that an STA has been issued, and the station is operating legally, which was my only concern. I could care less if they were playing banjo music, let's not turn this into a mud slinging thread. You both sound like the gas bags on talk radio which is why I am sad to say I don't even listen to talk radio anymore. No one wants to debate anything, it's just more banter of "my team rules, your team sucks". Isn't there a "take it outside" forum for this?

anyway, I find it interesting that a station of any kind would invest in running LPTV to gain a RADIO audience. Many FM radios today are PLL synthesized and only tune 88.1-107.9 exclusively. This means many folks in that stations' target won't even know they are there.

MOST PLL digital tuners go to 87.7 on the low end.....The use of 87.70 MHz for the aural on some Frankens is questionable (under the standards set in Part 74) but the FCC doesnt seem to want to bother with them for now (since interference to AM and LB TV is sooo much more importan....oh wait, they dont care about that either!)...Ehhh, it will all go away in 2015 when analog LPTV goes away anyway...

 

[kf4rca]

So why are they off the air?

Could it be they figured out that the Atlanta market is MAXXED OUT? You couldn't get another signal in here and make a go of it if your life depended on it.
I can't think of a single format thats not on the air...except for easy listening/ beautiful music. That must be a dinosaur format these days.
But I can see it on in all the doctors' and dentists' offices.
But it must be awfully difficult to write a check to the electric company WITHOUT any revenue coming in.

But as for undocumented alien children, they are no more legal than natural born children under the age of 18. Their signature is not good on any legal document in any of the fifty states. They cannot enter into a contract or be sued. The law says that the ultimate responsibility of a child (under 18) is with its parents.
The law believes children are not capable of making a decision on their own. Therefore these children will be re-united with their parents.
They will have to PROVE they have relatives here in order to stay. And if you know anything about the legal system here, they will need 15 VERIFIABLE documents to prove it.
Since Mexico allowed these children passage, they are guilty of human trafficking. Some who didn't make it are buried along the way.

 

[Avid Listener]

MOST PLL digital tuners go to 87.7 on the low end.....The use of 87.70 MHz for the aural on some Frankens is questionable (under the standards set in Part 74) but the FCC doesnt seem to want to bother with them for now (since interference to AM and LB TV is sooo much more importan....oh wait, they dont care about that either!)...Ehhh, it will all go away in 2015 when analog LPTV goes away anyway...

On my regular, ordinary, stock car radio, something totally unfancy or special, the jabbering in Spanish cames in loud and clear when I tune to the lowest spot on the dial. On my dinky little battery powered MP3 player, which has an optional FM receiver built in, and that tunes in increments of 10 MHz, I could hear it loud and clear (or as clear at that gibberish ever gets) on every frequency up to 88.0, and slightly on 88.1. I have an adapter in my car that plays MP3s over a blank spot on the FM dial. I used to use 87.9 for it, but I had to find a new blank spot because the Spanish station spilled over onto 87.9 and made my adapter unlistenable.

 

[kf4rca]

I could hear them when this thread first started.

But I can't now. Checked my Ford Ranger radio which goes down to 87.7. Then I checked my Radio Shack DX392 which goes down to 87.5. (I have heard a Nashville station on this frequency in the early morning.)
Then I checked my Singer FM-10CS service monitor (covers 30 to 512 MHz.) and it STILL wasn't there.
Could it be their STA expired?

 

[trusty]

We'll be right back to 87.75 right after this word from Homeland Security:
If you check HERE, you will see DHS and ICE advertising for venders ("escort services") to handle 65,000 unaccompanied children (details when you you click "Juvenile_Transport_RFI_(TONY_Edits_1_29_14).docx" in the box in the middle of the "opportunity". The vender will be an "on-demand escort service for non-criminal/non-delinquent unaccompanied alien children ages infant to 17 years of age, seven (7) days a week, 365 days a year."

This ad first appeared last January, and I'm still trying to figure out why it was such a "suprise". Maybe theylll have the answer on 87.75...

 

[ContinuousWave]

But I can't now. Checked my Ford Ranger radio which goes down to 87.7. Then I checked my Radio Shack DX392 which goes down to 87.5. (I have heard a Nashville station on this frequency in the early morning.)
Then I checked my Singer FM-10CS service monitor (covers 30 to 512 MHz.) and it STILL wasn't there.
Could it be their STA expired?

The STA is good until Nov.....could be they had an equipment failure (it happens)...