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WTDA, Riverlea

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TomT

Minor change app. filed Wednesday to change city of license to Riverlea, and move transmitter site to the west side of Columbus (from just over the Franklin Co. line north of Westerville).
 
If by any chance they want to flip to Spanish, moving West would be smart. I do notice that the PPM has been kind to TDA's Classic Rock-ish format, although we're still talking pretty small numbers.
 
TomT said:
Directional antenna with a null towards Dayton & WXEG.
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Thanks for clearing that up Tom...I wondered if the signal would affect WXEG at all...'XEG is one of the top rated stations in Dayton...no need to tick off Alternative Rock fans with old 70s tunes. ;D
 
Oops, I was confusing Riverlea with another tiny burg, Valleyview. The latter is just southwest of where 70 and 670 split, west of downtown. Riverlea is is a 500-person village hugging the west side of 315, midway between Morse and 161.
 
Nu_Roo_2 said:
If by any chance they want to flip to Spanish, moving West would be smart. I do notice that the PPM has been kind to TDA's Classic Rock-ish format, although we're still talking pretty small numbers.
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Spanish would be the jackpot for that signal, for sure.
 
Nu_Roo_2 said:
Oops, I was confusing Riverlea with another tiny burg, Valleyview. The latter is just southwest of where 70 and 670 split, west of downtown. Riverlea is is a 500-person village hugging the west side of 315, midway between Morse and 161.
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Can you have a city of license for a town/city that is not incorporated?
 
del_griffith said:
Nu_Roo_2 said:
Oops, I was confusing Riverlea with another tiny burg, Valleyview. The latter is just southwest of where 70 and 670 split, west of downtown. Riverlea is is a 500-person village hugging the west side of 315, midway between Morse and 161.
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Can you have a city of license for a town/city that is not incorporated?
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I believe that, surprisingly, it is an incorporated village, BTW, I meant to say it hugs the *east* side of 315.

http://www.riverleaohio.com/
 
Anyone care to venture a guess as to how much such a move would improve WTDA's coverage of Columbus and the populous suburbs? Could it possibly spare TDA from the dreaded Dispatch tower interference that sends a chill through the spines of most rimshots?
 
Nu_Roo_2 said:
Anyone care to venture a guess as to how much such a move would improve WTDA's coverage of Columbus and the populous suburbs? Could it possibly spare TDA from the dreaded Dispatch tower interference that sends a chill through the spines of most rimshots?
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Since you requested "a guess"... here's what I'd say. I look at the FCC FM Query page for WTDA and pull up the "Relative Field Polar Plot" graph for both the current setup and the new CP. Then, pit that against the latitude coordinate for the antenna (ignore the longitude, since downtown is almost directly south for both tx sites). The current setup sends around 1/2 to 2/3 of its 6kW equivalent signal toward downtown from 40 degrees, 9 minutes north latitude. The new setup will send all of its 6kW equivalent signal toward downtown from 39 degrees, 59 minutes north latitude.

Seems to me that there will mathematically be more signal shooting toward downtown that would at least have a better chance of overcoming the Dispatch tower interference.

By the way - I am no engineer. Simply, a "guesser". Anyone with more knowledge is more than welcome to crush my guessing into a pulp and say how it really is. :)
 
del_griffith said:
Can you have a city of license for a town/city that is not incorporated?
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Very much so. In fact, the official FCC term is not "city" of license, it's "community" of license. The official showing does not have to address incorporation, but rather, is the new license "community" separate from existing nearby areas (say, Columbus).

That's usually proven by trotting out the nearby weekly newspaper that serves Riverlea and nearby areas, proving that there are employers in Riverlea, etc. My favorite Tuck showing example was around here, when the COL move of WKDD/98.1 to the Akron suburb of Munroe Falls cited the vital information provided to Munroe Falls residents by the Kimpton Middle School newsletter.

One example of COLs to non-incorporated areas: CC's KSTE/650 Rancho Cordova CA, which was long an unincorporated suburb of Sacramento. (RC recently became an incorporated city, like a number of unincorporated suburbs in that area.)
 
Coincidentally, I've just seen the first news article I can remember about Riverlea. Today's Dispatch has an article about a controversy over the village's repaved streets (for reasons explained in the article, they ended up with a black-oatmeal look). They interview the mayor of Riverlea about the situation.

Wonder if TDA can somehow use this to demonstrate that this is an independent, separate community?
 
Nu_Roo_2 said:
Coincidentally, I've just seen the first news article I can remember about Riverlea. Today's Dispatch has an article about a controversy over the village's repaved streets (for reasons explained in the article, they ended up with a black-oatmeal look). They interview the mayor of Riverlea about the situation.

Wonder if TDA can somehow use this to demonstrate that this is an independent, separate community?
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They honestly I dont think are going to have to do much to prove it... The hardest part is proving the town they are leaving has "local radio" .. and Westerville has two stations "WOBN (97.5) and WVMX (107.9) licensed.. so by moving WTDA they are not taking away anything from that community (laughs).
 
Speaking of Coverage..

the new WTDA would provide a really good Class A signal over most of Columbus being the strongest on the West side of Columbus.

http://cdbs.recnet.com/fmq.php?facid=60099&jaws=0

Naturally no one knows how well it will perform until it's approved and on air .. but on paper it looks fairly decent compaired to their current westerville signal.

I am sure the people over at SAGA are turning over at the fact they could not move 104.3 into Columbus.
 
xmusicmatt said:
I am sure the people over at SAGA are turning over at the fact they could not move 104.3 into Columbus.
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SAGA could not move it's tower to the west side of Columbus because of 104.9 moving it's tower to a different location then in the SAGA application.
Then, this opened the door for WTDA 103.9 to apply to move it's tower to the west side of Columbus. It looks like both move in tower sites
are within in few miles of each other. Maybe this is where NABCO got the idea for the WTDA tower move?
 
This was lifted from another thread:

the marv said:
It will be interestingto see if the fcc even allows WTDA to move their tower over to the west side of Columbus since WXEG in Fairborn is on the same frequency as they are.
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This application appears to have about the best coverage of any of the Columbus rim-shooters. It almost seems to good to be true. It may provide
proper/adequate protection to WXEG but still may be returned by the FCC. There still could be other problems with this application. So, I think it
will be returned by the FCC but it would be great if NABCO can get this approved by the FCC and built.
 
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