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I heard an spot on WTMY looking for a new general manager. Knowing the old general manager I called her up. She said she is making more money being a bartender at Cha Cha Coconuts than being GM of a radio station. How much are they paying?
 
LA3A said:
I heard an spot on WTMY looking for a new general manager. Knowing the old general manager I called her up. She said she is making more money being a bartender at Cha Cha Coconuts than being GM of a radio station. How much are they paying?
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Why don't you apply for the job? That way you will know first hand what they are paying.
 
jm: why don't you provide some ranges of salaries of what gm's make? as you're the expert, should be easy. no need to be snippy with someone asking a question.
 
WTMY has been on a down slide since the owner dumped the team that was beginning to turn things around to a team that would work for peanuts and ego. They are soley focused on generating income with no concern for quality programming which without makes it impossible to entice businesses to advertise. They make most all of thier money by selling time for brokered shows with absolutely no regard to quality. If you pay ... you have a show. All the "real" talent was either let go (for lack of funds) or made a move on thier own. I know Laurie and the 2 G/M's before her. They all worked very hard to accomplish the owner's (some jerk in Chicago who hasn't got a clue about the Sarasota market) goals but he expects miracles. Working as a bartender would bring in much more then you would ever see from WTMY. You can make the same $ turning in aluminum cans fo cash and would be working much fewer hours.
 
Why don't you apply for the job? That way you will know first hand what they are paying.
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I know how Polnet works. They are looking for somebody that has to be on the air (stroking their ego) and work for $8.75 /Hr. Robert Nelson did the same thing back in the 70's with channel 40. You want work in TV, work for free the 1st year. You don't need a Phd to understand the Sarasota/Bradenton market. ;)
 
Hell... I don't remember Nelson paying me THAT much for double duty from WBRD/DUV and then WXLT.....at about the time tv40 went on the air...
 
What are the goals of WTMY? I would have thought they were the goals of every forgotten small-signal AM: sell a ton of brokered shows and survive.... :)
 
rowdies said:
jm: why don't you provide some ranges of salaries of what gm's make? as you're the expert, should be easy. no need to be snippy with someone asking a question.
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No one was being "snippy" as you put it. Apparently you are mistakenly interpreting my directness as being unfriendly. It isn't intended to be as such. However I believe you desreve a brief explanation. I'm a very direct and "too the point" individual as this is a huge part of my overall persona, and I don't believe in wasting time on trivial matters. If that seems "cold" to you, then I humbly apologize in advance.

As for my "expertise", I have no idea what WTMY is paying its GM; Hence the reason I suggested the person interested apply for the job if that person has an interest in becoming the WTMY GM. Otherwise it is irrelevant that any of us know the GM's salary, especially considering that information is considered confidential by a station owner. I'm speaking as a former GM and former station owner on that matter.

With that said, no one really evers knows anything for certain, including GM salaries, until one asks the correct questions from the correct source. I had suggested this person asking the question to go directly to the source - The Station, hence helping him or her to get a more accurate answer to their question. This is a highly reasonable suggestion that should the person in question decide to implement will greatly reduce any chance for error in obtaining a more accurate answer. They may even end up with a new career as GM of WTMY, but it WILL NOT happen unless they go to the source and ask.

However, to further expound, if the owner or other WTMY decision maker is reading this thread, I serious doubt said person will publicly publish any station salaries on this Board. I certainly would not publicize that information if it were me in charge of any station in question.

As per your inquiry relating to what are the GM salary ranges, that varies greatly depending on market size, type facility (AM or FM), stand-alone verses a cluster and so on. It also depends on existing cash flow at the time of the salary negotiations as well as whatever else a prospective GM and a licensee may agree upon, largely encompassing a base salary, goal setting bonuses, overrides, personal commissions and the like.

I trust the above answers your question(s) to your satisfaction.
 
LA3A said:
Why don't you apply for the job? That way you will know first hand what they are paying.
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You don't need a Phd to understand the Sarasota/Bradenton market. ;)
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You are correct. You don't need a PhD to understand ANY market, including Sarasota/Bradenton. However, the question asked was "How much are they (WTMY) paying?", and I gave you an answer.
 
Speaking of Sarasota radio, I am grateful for the adult standards played on Sarasota's WSDV and Venice's WDDV. Wish we had something like that in Tampa-St. Petersburg.
 
dwtpa97 said:
Speaking of Sarasota radio, I am grateful for the adult standards played on Sarasota's WSDV and Venice's WDDV. Wish we had something like that in Tampa-St. Petersburg.
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If you had your choice, what Tampa Bay station would you place adults standards?
 
That's a tough question! Several years ago, the conventional wisdom would have been 1250 AM. But I'm sure they're probably making more money with their brokered programming. And there's some real doubt about whether AM will ever again be viable for a music format.

I don't listen enough to the various (FM or AM) stations to have an opinion as to which station, if any, might be a good choice. Obviously it would have to be a station that is currently bringing in poor ratings numbers.

I would not advocate a strictly all-adult standards format. That is probably too specialized. I would lean towards something like the old WGUL, which combined adult standards with softer Top-40 from the 50s - 70s.

I haven't really answered your question, because I just don't have an intelligent answer for you!
 
dwtpa97 said:
That's a tough question! Several years ago, the conventional wisdom would have been 1250 AM. But I'm sure they're probably making more money with their brokered programming. And there's some real doubt about whether AM will ever again be viable for a music format.

I don't listen enough to the various (FM or AM) stations to have an opinion as to which station, if any, might be a good choice. Obviously it would have to be a station that is currently bringing in poor ratings numbers.

I would not advocate a strictly all-adult standards format. That is probably too specialized. I would lean towards something like the old WGUL, which combined adult standards with softer Top-40 from the 50s - 70s.

I haven't really answered your question, because I just don't have an intelligent answer for you!
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You're off to a very good start by first defining the format you invision. Once that is established, then a viable "home" can be identified, assuming there is a poorly performing signal in the market that is slated for an improvement, and it is also determined your format will fill an existing market void.
 
I drove by the old studio transmitter site of WTMY on Hammock Place and found it torn down and gone. Towers gone building empty. So, obviously their signal is coming from somewhere else. A search of the FCC records shows they have a STA to broadcast with only 100 watts from Clear Channels City Island property diplexed with 1450. If you only have 100 watts that is as good a location as any. I wonder how long before they find a new permanent home for their directional array. Its getting harder and harder to put up a DA. All the NIMBY's anymore. The station sounds louder than before but by the time you get to I75 the signal gets a lot of noise. I wonder if they tell their clients that they only use 20% of their power. The more efficient taller tower and the salt water path is in their favor. So, that leaves WTMY losing their site and operating with substandard facilities. Same with WSRQ 1220, also operating under a STA with transmitter east of I75 now and power of around 250 watts when it should be 1000.
 
The talk of 50 thousand dollars to move the studio was also to move the tower site. They had to buy a diplexer for the 1450 tower on City Island and Clear Channel had them broadband the 1450 side for IBOC. They only spent a little on the studio move, bringing the old junk over to new carpeting. The TPO is like 80 watts in the day and less at night. They are running STA just like 1220. Which doesn't mean anything to the FCC because 1220 been doing an STA since 1996. BTW WGUL-AM before Salem, the manager made 75K a year. That's one hell of a bartender!
 
Looking for a new GM or not - that station has made some changes that seem very good for the market. Check out afternoons. Good political talk.
 
Both 1220 and 1280 seem to be very interested in serving their community. For such a peanut whistle signal for both of them, that's the only way they will be successful. I wish them well. They will probably never be able to go back to their old signals again.
 
I don't know much about the technology of radio signals but I went to Tampa over the weekend and I got the signal loud and clear from St. Pete through Venice. They may not be a 50k signal but it certainly wasn't "peanut-like".
 
LA3A said:
The talk of 50 thousand dollars to move the studio was also to move the tower site. They had to buy a diplexer for the 1450 tower on City Island and Clear Channel had them broadband the 1450 side for IBOC. They only spent a little on the studio move, bringing the old junk over to new carpeting. The TPO is like 80 watts in the day and less at night. They are running STA just like 1220. Which doesn't mean anything to the FCC because 1220 been doing an STA since 1996.
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I met a guy over on City (Google) Island running proofs for WTMY a couple of weeks ago. He was from Chicago. Guess he needed a vacation. See, no oil! :)
BTW WGUL-AM before Salem, the manager made 75K a year. That's one hell of a bartender!
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Maybe they were paying him more than they could afford.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
LA3A said:
The talk of 50 thousand dollars to move the studio was also to move the tower site. They had to buy a diplexer for the 1450 tower on City Island and Clear Channel had them broadband the 1450 side for IBOC. They only spent a little on the studio move, bringing the old junk over to new carpeting. The TPO is like 80 watts in the day and less at night. They are running STA just like 1220.
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Actually...you're almost accurate on this...the diplexer Clear Channel already owned and was sent to the WSDV site where it was modified slightly and tweaked up for both frequencies. It was broadbanded for 1450 IBOC..which oddly isn't even turned on.

The WTMY TPO is around 100 watts day and a little less at night...but it does OK for what it is.

I enjoyed talking to BadJef...during my visit. :D
 
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