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WVKO gives new meaning to progressive talk in first week

sorry but any commercial radio station that can't get it's audio together and is casting about for volunteers and fund raisers can't be doing well at all. they're either taking the terms undercapitalized and shoestring to a new level or have some very warped budgetary priorities. makes you wonder how they're covering the power bill.
 
They may also want to look at a web streaming provider for their web stream, I attempted to tune in and got nothing but buffering every few seconds which made the web stream difficult to listen to. A internet traceroute would indicate they are running the web stream off a Time Warner Cable modem connection.

May want to look at a actual streaming provider that has the bandwidth to host more than 5-10 streams. If your streaming to more than 5-10 people on a cable modem you will cause buffering due to the lack of bandwidth.
 
Also,

The Ed Schultz Show did not sound too bad, the breaks seemed to be fairly tight. I did not hear a lot of local commercials though mostly PSAs and Station Promos outside of the Ed Schultz network spots.
 
Well maybe there is a problem with volunteering for a commerical station I offered to volunteer at one of the big stations here and they told me that i would have to be getting college credit They said there were liability concerns not having an offical intern connected with a college or a paid person on the staff in the building. I don't know whether they were telling me that truthfully or if that is for real.
 
tashamaxwell said:
Well maybe there is a problem with volunteering for a commerical station I offered to volunteer at one of the big stations here and they told me that i would have to be getting college credit They said there were liability concerns not having an offical intern connected with a college or a paid person on the staff in the building. I don't know whether they were telling me that truthfully or if that is for real.

I don't know about the college credit part but all "volunteers" must hold a valid General Class license through the FCC in order to operate legally and conform to all rules and regs. This might all be in the community spirit as the old WVKO was somewhat, but I would hope that all their "I's" are dotted and their "T's" are crossed as they continue to improve and move forward.
 
RF Man said:
tashamaxwell said:
Well maybe there is a problem with volunteering for a commerical station I offered to volunteer at one of the big stations here and they told me that i would have to be getting college credit They said there were liability concerns not having an offical intern connected with a college or a paid person on the staff in the building. I don't know whether they were telling me that truthfully or if that is for real.

I don't know about the college credit part but all "volunteers" must hold a valid General Class license through the FCC in order to operate legally and conform to all rules and regs. This might all be in the community spirit as the old WVKO was somewhat, but I would hope that all their "I's" are dotted and their "T's" are crossed as they continue to improve and move forward.

DUH!!! What planet are you on!!!

There hasn't been a requirement for an operators license in broadcast for at least 20 years or so...in fact, you don't need one for engineering the station, so you don't need one to operate one.

...and the last time I checked, it wasn't illegal to volunteer your time to do much of anything, as long as you activities are legal, you probably have nothing to be concerned with. If I were the station ownership/management, I would have a clear, signed agreement between the station and the volunteers on what they can do, and clearly can not do, including Sec 317 requirements, general codes of conduct, and broadcast rules and regulations. Keep in mind that this is a LMA, so the owner is "ultimately responsible for anything that is broadcast over the station", and therefore, any infractions!

I would also screen the volunteers extremely carefully, A good program logging system would also be a great idea. But if they want to run on volunteers, they can.
 
tashamaxwell said:
Well maybe there is a problem with volunteering for a commerical station I offered to volunteer at one of the big stations here and they told me that i would have to be getting college credit They said there were liability concerns not having an offical intern connected with a college or a paid person on the staff in the building. I don't know whether they were telling me that truthfully or if that is for real.

Well, if you're not an employee, I can see some liability, and the college and education liability issues were overcome years ago when those program started...so I don't think they lied to you. And, no I wouldn't leave anyone in the building who wasn't an employee either. But, with that said, if interning and volunteering is the way you want to go, best of luck to you. I would try the smaller operations, the LPFM's and school stations are probably your best bet, and the volunteer opportunity at WVKO probably isn't a bad deal. I don't know anyone over there personally, but it sounds like an opportunity that I might have considered when I first got into the business. At least it's a foot in the door into this screwy business...

and trust me, it is screwy...so learn young, while you can afford it.
 
The liability issues tend to be with insurance in case the party was injured "on the job". It's not illegal to volunteer, but you might encounter problems with wage and hour laws. (In having a "non-employee" performing the work generally assigned to an employee). An "intern" getting college credit, is something else.

On the licensing issue: I haven't had more than a restricted radiotelephone license signed off on by the station's Chief Engineer since my third phone/element 9 expired, oh...about 20 some years ago. Once the C.E. signs off on it, you get it by postcard from the FCC. It's the same license a private pilot has, and, these days, it's good enough to operate a broadcast station.
 
Of course the neo-cons want the station to fail so CC can swoop in and air programming that no one will listen to. WVKO is doing a better job than the last progressive talk station that was run by CC. Do I have to remember that WYTS is getting no ratings now? The group I am a part of the chairman did a sat. dish test and it work fine. The station needs to get permission from the bulding to hang their dish.

We have local programming on Sundays and Weekdays from 5-6PM there will be more. Once the dishes are set up and running then the promotional blitz will commernce.

I am getting my lic. trainning from WCRS the LPFM community station. OMW is nothing more than blowhard know nothing blog. Like most right wingers they don't want any balance and want to keep the populace from hearing the other side.

WTDA is failing as a righty talker just look at their ratings.
 
OMW is nothing more than blowhard know nothing blog. Like most right wingers they don't want any balance and want to keep the populace from hearing the other side.
this arguement never ceases to amaze me. as one who fails to fit in with either of the two extremes that are so vocal in this country at this time i find plenty of slanted coverage from boths sides and a total lack of balance from the media.

WTDA is failing as a righty talker just look at their ratings.

crap signals always fail. look at the ratings, the best signals = the best ratings.
 
willcail said:
The group I am a part of the chairman did a sat. dish test and it work fine.

We have local programming on Sundays and Weekdays from 5-6PM there will be more.
Care to elaborate on that "group?"


I am getting my lic. trainning from WCRS the LPFM community station. OMW is nothing more than blowhard know nothing blog.
:D :D

(One for each sentence)
 
willcail said:
I am getting my lic. trainning from WCRS the LPFM community station. OMW is nothing more than blowhard know nothing blog. Like most right wingers they don't want any balance and want to keep the populace from hearing the other side.

No offense, but do you have your head on straight? Why would ANYBODY waste their time "volunteering" for a for profit entity? The fact that you would waste your energy to fill someone else's pocket with money shows a whole tone of naivete on your part.
 
enzytebob said:
willcail said:
I am getting my lic. trainning from WCRS the LPFM community station. OMW is nothing more than blowhard know nothing blog. Like most right wingers they don't want any balance and want to keep the populace from hearing the other side.

No offense, but do you have your head on straight? Why would ANYBODY waste their time "volunteering" for a for profit entity? The fact that you would waste your energy to fill someone else's pocket with money shows a whole tone of naivete on your part.

Because they believe in the cause of Progressive Talk Radio and they feel they are getting something out of it.
 
One of my best friends on this planet is chucking at someone throwing the "right wing" label at yours truly and the Mighty Blog(tm). :D

I've already typed a bunch of responses to this, in a back and forth with Ohio Majority Radio organizer Russ Childers on the WVKO message board.

http://www.wvko1580.com/forums/

Anything I have to say about the topic, and the fallout from our earlier entry on WVKO, is there. I'm not going to copy and paste it here.

And to think...since I'm a fan of Stephanie Miller, and have said so repeatedly here and on the blog, I'm a "right wing blowhard" wishing WVKO's demise! Last time I checked, WVKO airs her program daily at 9 AM.

'Enough said. I'll just close that my criticisms were radio-related, not politics related, and I'm getting pretty tired of overheated activists on BOTH sides (you should see what happens when I say something that isn't 100% complimentary of a conservative host!).

-OMW
 
It is amazing how hateful some of you can be just because of political affiliations. It baffles my mind. I would never wish an organization, or an individuals demise due to their political affiliation alone. Now if that organization, person/persons are ******bags, then that is a different story all together. From what I know of the management at WVKO I wish them well with their venture, and I support the community in their quest to listen to progressive talk radio.

Here's the rub, someone once told me you can't polish a turd. The progressive talk line-up is by far the worst in terms of production value, entertainment, and relevance. Guess what... That is the basic triangle of radio programming. A monkey with cymbals could sit behind the mike and do a progressive talk show the way they are done now. Same topics, same takes, no entertainment value, no production value, very little relevance. So my question is, what will happen 1st, will that stinky turd gets flushed out of the market, or will it be polished up and become a sparkling stinky turd?
 
SportsRadioDoc said:
It is amazing how hateful some of you can be just because of political affiliations. It baffles my mind. I would never wish an organization, or an individuals demise due to their political affiliation alone. Now if that organization, person/persons are ******bags, then that is a different story all together. From what I know of the management at WVKO I wish them well with their venture, and I support the community in their quest to listen to progressive talk radio.

Here's the rub, someone once told me you can't polish a turd. The progressive talk line-up is by far the worst in terms of production value, entertainment, and relevance. Guess what... That is the basic triangle of radio programming. A monkey with cymbals could sit behind the mike and do a progressive talk show the way they are done now. Same topics, same takes, no entertainment value, no production value, very little relevance. So my question is, what will happen 1st, will that stinky turd gets flushed out of the market, or will it be polished up and become a sparkling stinky turd?

So now we know why WYTS dropped Progressive Talk. They were afraid people would call it AM Twelve-Turdy.

Of course, if this were Chicago, no one would be able to tell the difference.
 
The "no volunteer" rule is due to labor laws. You can't have people working for nothing. They can, however, work for college or school credit.

I'm not in Columbus, but WVKO should succeed because it's only good for all radio to have different voices. But, they can't be shocked if the poor audio quality or unreliable signal causes criticism.
 
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