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WVOX (1460 AM) Translator

As luperm said above, "Seems like a waste of electricity..."
You really need to be almost in the shadow of the WFAS Hartsdale tower to hear this tiny signal on 98.3. When I saw it was back on the air a couple weeks ago, I was curious.
Co-channel WKJY from Hempstead, NY can be easily received nearby, but when I got close enough, W252DX blotted out K-JOY, with a silent carrier. So while the translator is technically "on", when I heard it yesterday afternoon and early this morning post-midnight, it was carrier only; no audio.
This facility has spent much more time off the air, than on. After being silent/off-the-air since last January 8th, it had to get back on by 12:01 AM January 9, 2023, or face forced expiration the translator's license. It's license renewal (expiration was 6/1/22) is still pending FCC approval.
If they renew this, they'll renew anything.
Wouldn't this also interfere with WDAQ and WSUL?
 
Wouldn't this also interfere with WDAQ and WSUL?
WSUL is not a factor. Their signal does not make it down there.
By the time you get to central Westchester, WKJY tends to dominate over WDAQ, but it can vary depending on the terrain. Going into Rockland County, WKJY (and other Long Island signals) overperform as you make your way up the grade leading away from the Hudson, but once you're away from there, they more or less disappear.
The LI signals are strongest along the Sound Shore.
 
Please. People in Dobbs Ferry, Hartsdale and Tarrytown have no idea what WVOX is.
YOU asked the question... if you don't like the answer THAT is on YOU! The above areas reference where the station WAS ABLE to fit in a translator. Too bad they didn't consult you. Maybe you have the wisdom and prowess that no one else has?!

Here is their contact number if you want to inquire/complain to the source directly: (914) 636-1460
 
In addition to the translator being discussed in this thread, WVOX had also received permission from the F.C.C. to move translator W276BV (103.1 FM) from Greenwich CT to a building in New Rochelle, and using it to rebroadcast the station. But if I am understanding the recent filing with the F.C.C. correctly, this project has been apparently dropped, and the translator is silent, with no one else at the moment leasing it.
 
In addition to the translator being discussed in this thread, WVOX had also received permission from the F.C.C. to move translator W276BV (103.1 FM) from Greenwich CT to a building in New Rochelle, and using it to rebroadcast the station. But if I am understanding the recent filing with the F.C.C. correctly, this project has been apparently dropped, and the translator is silent, with no one else at the moment leasing it.
I guess WVOX lost interest in this one. The translator owner changed primary to WPUT North Salem, NY. Not sure if this is the plan they are going with, or if it's temporary until a new lessee can be found. It looks like WPUT and W276BV are commonly controlled.
 
YOU asked the question... if you don't like the answer THAT is on YOU! The above areas reference where the station WAS ABLE to fit in a translator. Too bad they didn't consult you. Maybe you have the wisdom and prowess that no one else has?!

Here is their contact number if you want to inquire/complain to the source directly: (914) 636-1460
The only one asking questions is you. I have no problem with them wasting money on a useless translator with next to no coverage and very few, if any, listeners. Have at it...it's their money. Perhaps the people who buy time on that station will be excited to know that they are on FM (without realizing that they'd probably reach more people by screaming on some street corner).
 
WSUL is not a factor. Their signal does not make it down there.
By the time you get to central Westchester, WKJY tends to dominate over WDAQ, but it can vary depending on the terrain. Going into Rockland County, WKJY (and other Long Island signals) overperform as you make your way up the grade leading away from the Hudson, but once you're away from there, they more or less disappear.
The LI signals are strongest along the Sound Shore.
I forgot about WKJY on Long Island.
 
The only one asking questions is you. I have no problem with them wasting money on a useless translator with next to no coverage and very few, if any, listeners. Have at it...it's their money. Perhaps the people who buy time on that station will be excited to know that they are on FM (without realizing that they'd probably reach more people by screaming on some street corner).
Please enlighten as to WHAT questions I have asked? I'll wait... you asked a question based on your lack of knowledge and that you don't approve of, understand or agree with, yet appear to be uneducated with simple elements of consulting engineering.

Why in the world do you care anyway? You just stated you don't, so let it go. If you're not interested in absorbing information then disseminating it is a waste...
 
If someone knowledgeable disseminates information, I'll absorb it. You are not that person.
Do you really grasp this thread that you horned in on bitching about a translators coverage with having ZERO understanding of how the process works?? I guess not, clearly! An authority from the heavens wouldn't even be successful in conveying any logic in your direction. Enjoy the rest of your day in a cloud of ignorance. As for me I am so truly dismayed that I learned that I am not the least bit knowledgeable in any way as pointed about by someone like you... I hope there aren't any bridges in my proximity...
 
I finally heard this translator today, when driving north on the Sprain Parkway. Very limited coverage. It was fighting with WKJY at the 287 interchange, and continued to do so as I headed west across the TZ bridge.
They weren’t kidding in their December silent STA extension request, when they said the licensed pattern was “less than optimum”.
It stinks!
 
WVOX did say in its F.C.C. filing they intend to replace the antenna with a better one. It'll be interesting whether the signal improves significantly once it is installed.
I wonder why the station opted for this translator location, when they also had the option to move the Greenwich CT translator on 103.1 FM right into the New Rochelle COL.
 
This 98.3 translator has a whack-a-mole history, first proposed nearly 6 years ago at 250 watts from the tower on top of Montefiore Hospital. In late 2017 they filed to move it to Alpine, NJ with 90 watts. The licensed facility for 98.3 on the WFAS tower appears to be using the former antenna of Bridgelight’s ousted 94.3 translator, W232AL, which had been running from there until Cumulus kicked them out. Same antenna, same AGL/AMSL on the same tower. Since then, 94.3 has been on its own search for a new transmitter site, and is still on an STA, running flea power from Yonkers.
 
The signal from the translator is now considerably stronger.
Apparently the new transmitting antenna has been installed.
 
The signal from the translator is now considerably stronger.
Apparently the new transmitting antenna has been installed.
Or they cranked the power. I’m hearing it now, a half dozen miles south of the tower, where I used to receive WKJY. They ought to be very happy with this coverage, as it’s reaching parts of New Rochelle, WVOX’s CoL.

Did I miss something? Other than mentioning a new antenna in their silent STA extension request in December 2022, I haven’t seen an actual application for a modification.
 
Thanks, Nick.
It's interesting that WVOX is located in southern Westchester County, yet the translator is situated to the north, and will beam its signal northwest. That's probably to avoid interfering with WKJY 98.3. But most listeners in the area covered by WVOX will apparently not be able to receive the translator signal.
Beaming a translator signal to places that are populated, and not currently covered by the main signal ,seem perfectly logical to me
 
Beaming a translator signal to places that are populated, and not currently covered by the main signal ,seem perfectly logical to me
If WVOX was an average station, I would agree. But much if it's programming is very localized, focusing on the southern part of Westchester County along Long Island Sound. Even though the area covered by the translator is only a few miles away, much of its programming is not relevant there.
The station had authorization to move a translator from Greenwich CT to downtown New Rochelle, and they apparently decided not to. Perhaps the leasing costs would have been too high.
 
As of this morning, this translator is not listenable North of the tower in Hartsdale. I drove down the Bronx River Parkway, the signal barely made it to Crane Road. So the translators stink for car driving. I have to believe they think they will get the more affluent homeowners in Hartsdale, Scarsdale and Irvington, etc. I don't see their product being as interesting to them as they might think.

The real question I have is why 98.3? There are 4 signals (sorry I don't know the classes) on 98.3 within an earshot of the ESB.
It's over clutter now.
 
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