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WVOX lives on (for now)

Is making false statements to the FCC a crime? Just asking
When signing the request for the STA extension, the authorized representative (Mr. Chang) is accepting this language (emphasis in CAPITAL LETTERS is the FCC’s, not mine):
“WILLFUL FALSE STATEMENTS MADE ON THIS FORM OR ANY ATTACHMENTS ARE PUNISHABLE BY FINE AND/OR IMPRISONMENT (U.S. Code, Title 18, §1001) AND/OR REVOCATION OF ANY STATION AUTHORIZATION (U.S. Code, Title 47, §312(a)(1)), AND/OR FORFEITURE (U.S. Code, Title 47, §503).”
And this is also part of the General Certification section:
“The Applicant certifies that all statements made in this application and in the exhibits, attachments, or documents incorporated by reference are material, are part of this application, and are true, complete, correct, and made in good faith.”

WVOX Request to Extend Engineering STA Application

Not getting caught in a lie is key.
 
Bumping up with a recent development from Lance, via RadioInsight:

Omega Vision is a church based in Coral Springs, FL. They apparently operate a station there, WOIB-LP (101.9 FM) and they stream on YouTube.

So Chang is the big winner, making a $57,000 profit for doing next to nothing. Meanwhile, another signal gets taken over by a wanna-be, out-of-state godcaster.
LOL. This church literally just lit $77,000 on fire! Good stuff.
 
I would be surprised if Chang made much profit off WVOX. The costs of all the FCC filings and setting up the STA facility (if it was ever really on the air; I never heard it) would probably have eaten up most of it.
 
I would be surprised if Chang made much profit off WVOX. The costs of all the FCC filings and setting up the STA facility (if it was ever really on the air; I never heard it) would probably have eaten up most of it.
Whenever I drove past the alleged antenna location, all I heard was a silent carrier and static. It is a stone's throw away from the Metro-North New Haven line tracks.
 
A couple things. The Organization buying the station appears (from the filings) to be based in the Bronx, on Gunhill Road, not in Florida. Also, this new group is going to have the same problem Jeff had, where to find a new transmitter site or Tower in Westchester to transmit from. I guess they could also locate in the north Bronx, and put a signal over New Rochelle from there, but dealing with the NYC government/bureaucracy to put up a new Tower, that won't be fun. I don't know if there is an existing AM tower available in the Bronx to possibly diplex on.
 
Whenever I drove past the alleged antenna location, all I heard was a silent carrier and static. It is a stone's throw away from the Metro-North New Haven line tracks.

you cant hear a silent carrier if all you hear is static.. a silent carrier means the transmitters on with no audio, static means its off.
 
A couple things. The Organization buying the station appears (from the filings) to be based in the Bronx, on Gunhill Road, not in Florida. Also, this new group is going to have the same problem Jeff had, where to find a new transmitter site or Tower in Westchester to transmit from. I guess they could also locate in the north Bronx, and put a signal over New Rochelle from there, but dealing with the NYC government/bureaucracy to put up a new Tower, that won't be fun. I don't know if there is an existing AM tower available in the Bronx to possibly diplex on.
Their home church is in Florida. They stream their services and other stuff on YouTube.
 
WVOX keeps bringing new meaning to 'Location, location, location.'
The facility was headed by William O'Shaughnessy for well over 50 years. WVOX was an accredited voice and comfortable success despite being just a 500-watt daytimer at the crammed upper part of the dial. It managed to span the era from when one-station towns meant solid local service to when FM and other leisure pursuits began siphoning off features from even some bigger AM regionals. Coming to mind in the small-business/town crier success genre were daytime DX catches WTMR Camden, WSTC Stamford, WNAR 1110 Norristown and without s doubt a few that the older DXers in other parts of the country each could list.
One exclusive fact of physics kept WVOX in restraints all those years: Location.
I can't, in my DX memory, think of another AM station located as near the city limits of a major market (and the #1 market in the country, besides) which had to have just trace listenship in so few places. Even with it's signal nestled more than comfortably from interference in the null of NYC's WHOM 1480, I doubt that anyone in Yonkers -- NY State's 3rd most populous city -- had any use for WVOX. Even fewer devotees would be listening in the Bronx where the signal was equally loud and clear. The huge omni signal over a few miles of water to the wealthy northern Nassau County's estates would also have meant no listeners or advertisers. Densely populated northern Queens? Same thing. Farther north there was full-service -- and full-time -- WFAS White Plains serving its slice of Westchester County's 900,000 customers. WVOX reached shore line shires in Connecticut very well, and even the most populous parts of Rockland County and no one there could possibly care.
It's amazing that a tiny 500-watt daytimer could more than hold its own for so long and win respectable awards in emphasizing just three cities in its coverage area. But that feat was more than accomplished.
O'Shaughnnesy has been gone for a decade now. There has to be rolled eyes at any new owner envisioning anything resembling actual listener acclaim in 2025. Expect it to become just another extension speaker for some distant religion outfit. At best.
 
WVOX keeps bringing new meaning to 'Location, location, location.'
The facility was headed by William O'Shaughnessy for well over 50 years. WVOX was an accredited voice and comfortable success despite being just a 500-watt daytimer at the crammed upper part of the dial. It managed to span the era from when one-station towns meant solid local service to when FM and other leisure pursuits began siphoning off features from even some bigger AM regionals. Coming to mind in the small-business/town crier success genre were daytime DX catches WTMR Camden, WSTC Stamford, WNAR 1110 Norristown and without s doubt a few that the older DXers in other parts of the country each could list.
One exclusive fact of physics kept WVOX in restraints all those years: Location.
I can't, in my DX memory, think of another AM station located as near the city limits of a major market (and the #1 market in the country, besides) which had to have just trace listenship in so few places. Even with it's signal nestled more than comfortably from interference in the null of NYC's WHOM 1480, I doubt that anyone in Yonkers -- NY State's 3rd most populous city -- had any use for WVOX. Even fewer devotees would be listening in the Bronx where the signal was equally loud and clear. The huge omni signal over a few miles of water to the wealthy northern Nassau County's estates would also have meant no listeners or advertisers. Densely populated northern Queens? Same thing. Farther north there was full-service -- and full-time -- WFAS White Plains serving its slice of Westchester County's 900,000 customers. WVOX reached shore line shires in Connecticut very well, and even the most populous parts of Rockland County and no one there could possibly care.
It's amazing that a tiny 500-watt daytimer could more than hold its own for so long and win respectable awards in emphasizing just three cities in its coverage area. But that feat was more than accomplished.
O'Shaughnnesy has been gone for a decade now. There has to be rolled eyes at any new owner envisioning anything resembling actual listener acclaim in 2025. Expect it to become just another extension speaker for some distant religion outfit. At best.
Bill O'Shaughnessy passed in May 2022.

And I'm not sure what the main idea of this post was, but it could have been condensed to 100 words or less.
 
So have at it.

The main idea? It was amazement that WVOX had been a station virtually within walking distance to a boundary line and covering some two million NYC people, plus other places it chose not to service. And in its heyday it was even leaving the air at sunset each day after predominantly being the voice of just three cities. Much like Long Island's directional 10,000-watt daytimer WHLI, which showed in the ratings of a half dozen markets, WVOX did not need or use all the extra coverage provided by its proximity to big population districts due to its *location*.
I was marveling at the achievements of a 500-watt station that, essentially used only part of its signal and coverage.
At the same time I was lamenting that, despite all that history, focus and credibility having extended even into prohibitive times everywhere else, it doesn't matter what it becomes now.
 
So have at it.

The main idea? It was amazement that WVOX had been a station virtually within walking distance to a boundary line and covering some two million NYC people, plus other places it chose not to service. And in its heyday it was even leaving the air at sunset each day after predominantly being the voice of just three cities. Much like Long Island's directional 10,000-watt daytimer WHLI, which showed in the ratings of a half dozen markets, WVOX did not need or use all the extra coverage provided by its proximity to big population districts due to its *location*.
I was marveling at the achievements of a 500-watt station that, essentially used only part of its signal and coverage.
At the same time I was lamenting that, despite all that history, focus and credibility having extended even into prohibitive times everywhere else, it doesn't matter what it becomes now.
How does this differ from WGBB in Nassau County, or a handful of little signals in the far west part of Suffolk (like WGSM, WGLI, WBAB, all AM). Crappy little signals that reach a fraction of the market. The answer is they each identified some niche within their signal's footprint and superserved it, then sold ads to companies or retailers that wanted to reach that niche. In a market like NYC, even a small niche can translate to a lot of ears and a mini-ecosystem that kept them alive. But that was then, when AM was the main game in town, and this is now, when there's FM and 10,000 streamers, and AM is just an ancient, noisy, obsolete also-ran.
 
Let's be real. WVOX was a big fat nothing for many years. It was the toy of an owner that had a gift of making it sound larger than it actually was and also had the luxury of revenue from the brokered FM sister station to keep the transmitter running. If not for the second point, WVOX would have died many years ago.
 
@Weiserguy ; @ luperm

Can't forget another 'toy' from the not-too-distant past.
Paul Sidney's WLNG was an AM-FM that was racking up one solid #1 after another in 12+ when the Riverhamptons ratings were released. Or WKMB 1070 Stirling NJ. They were a 250-watt daytimer in a WHN null, not even 20 miles west of Times Square playing C&W well after the format was tried and discarded three times in NYC.

My chief perplexity was the existence of a station being so close to NYC that didn't program at all to it, yet won awards and persisted. It's 93.5 'Return Radio' certainly provided 1460's allowance money, but the AM still was quite prestigious for a 500 watt daytime station. With no help whatever from the huge market right down I-95. I cannot think of another station so close to a major market that existed to any measure of success without trying to shoehorn into where the big money was.
 
Way back in the ancient days of radio, WFAS AM Broadcast from the Roof of the Roger Smith Hotel in downtown White Plains. Studio and Transmitter were on the Roof. According to the history of the station, a Dipole wire antenna was strung from corner to corner of the roof. The power at the time was only about 30 watts I believe. So, it can be done. I'm not sure how WVOX's 500 watts would work from a rooftop top antenna with electronic interference and EM Radiation safety concerns.
 
According to an STA approved by the FCC, WGCH 1490 AM in nearby Greenwich CT has been temporarily using the vertical antenna model linked below, from a rooftop. The station has also been searching for a permanent broadcasting site for several years, like WVOX. The filings say they’re running around 300 watts.

WGCH Antenna
 


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