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WWBA's New lineup

MichaelCrose

MichaelCrose

Starting Monday as I understand it, Boortz nine to eleven thirty, then Paul Harvey and local news, Bill O'Reilly noon to two then Dave Ramsey will help the trailer trash pay their bills out of envelopes till four then Dennis Miller until six.

Lets see if we can even have a smaller book than last time
 
106.3, the True Oldies channel, even with its weak signal into Tampa, garners more ratings than WWBA.
Tells you something about the wall-to-wall syndicated conservative talk station.

Michael, you nailed it right about Ramsey.

Didn't WWBA's PD or sometihing come on the air after losing Hannity and say they were going to do more local programming?

The Fasulo left. Anyone hear where he went?

Did anyone here apply for the position?

I frankly would rather hear a good local host talk about local, state, and national issues than another syndicated show I hear in every other city.

The station had the chance to bring some interesting non-cookie-cutter programming in but once again chickened out and went the easy route.
 
Don62 said:
Tells you something about the wall-to-wall syndicated conservative talk station.Didn't WWBA's PD or sometihing come on the air after losing Hannity and say they were going to do more local programming? I frankly would rather hear a good local host talk about local, state, and national issues than another syndicated show I hear in every other city.The station had the chance to bring some interesting non-cookie-cutter programming in but once again chickened out and went the easy route.
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'WBA filled Hannity's spot with a local show. They tried something different and they've lost half their audience. Looks like in a market like Tampa, people like conservo-talkers like Hannity. I don't think that's a surprise to anyone. Want to know what's worse than wall to wall syndicated conservative talk? How 'bout wall to wall syndicated LIBERAL talk.
 
They would be making a terrible mistake if they do this, as they did similar to this when they cut Boortz down and gave Tony Snow only partial clearance. I realize each hour is supposed to stand on its own. Go from bad to worse. Just starting to get used to Miller. Refreshing to hear other than GOP good, Dems bad rants. I like Boortz. He is right wing with common sense, not blind loyalty like Hannity. I see Boortz is now on 1220 in Sarasota. I'll have to see how much of his show they carry.
 
'WBA filled Hannity's spot with a local show. They tried something different and they've lost half their audience. Looks like in a market like Tampa, people like conservo-talkers like Hannity. I don't think that's a surprise to anyone. Want to know what's worse than wall to wall syndicated conservative talk? How 'bout wall to wall syndicated LIBERAL talk.
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They've had other problems, including considerable loss of nighttime signal coverage. They picked the wrong guy. People in Tampa Bay as a whole may like or not like conservotalkers, but the sliver of people who listened to WWBA did, and they expect ideology and red meat on 1040 all day long, as opposed to 970 which can afford to be less ideologically pure because of its heritage. What Genesis folks should have done was launch a search for the best movement conservative talker who lived in or was willing to relocate to Tampa for what they would pay, not just hire the first out-of-work TV guy who popped up. Fasulo had few well-formed opinions. His show was self-indulgent. The station made the mistake of claiming the show would not be hardcore conservative (the day they lost Hannity, they said "welcome back liberals"). That was clearly a signal to the Hannity fans to leave, and they did. BA should have gone out and gotten somebody like Gold -- only 20 years younger, without the throat problems -- as soon as they knew they were losing Hannity, or else stayed with syndication and know that at least their budget wouldn't take as much of a hit.

The sad thing is, Tampa used to be one of the hottest local talk markets in the country. You could fill a room with the success stories that launched here.
 
smedge2006 said:
The sad thing is, Tampa used to be one of the hottest local talk markets in the country. You could fill a room with the success stories that launched here.
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I've read about Tampa's glory days as a talk radio haven. Bob Lassiter was a titan in the field.
Look at how Crap Channel treated him.

I think Crap Channel has runited talk radio in Tampa, Miami and other places.

The only thing that media monopolist wanted to do whenever it buys a station is to cut costs so more money can go to co. hqs.
Replace nearly all local staff and talent and fill as much of the day with the crutch of syndication.
Good for people like Hannity and Beck but bad for listeners who expect some local talk.

CC also owns the most powerful AM signals in Tampa. Look how weak in signal WWBA is.
That gives the media giant more leverage to control and ruin the market.
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You are right on Don. Its a monopoly. At least WWBA tried to do something that no one else has attempted in Tampa in a long time and that is air a local show in the Am and in the Pm on talk radio. Too bad it did not work. CC bullies all of the independents around the country and gets away with it. They bury some good syndicated programming while the networks cave to them because they are scared to lose CC stations across the country. Makes it tough on small companies challenging CC.

I saw several tv commercials on CNN last night for WWBA promoting Miller, O'Reilly and Larsen. Good ad.

Here's hoping that Miller and Ramsey make a dent to challenge CC. I know its syndication, but so is most of FLA anyway.
 
Don62 said:
smedge2006 said:
The sad thing is, Tampa used to be one of the hottest local talk markets in the country. You could fill a room with the success stories that launched here.
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Re-posting to clear up formating (didn't look at it after posting):

I've read about Tampa's glory days as a talk radio haven. Bob Lassiter was a titan in the field.
Look at how Crap Channel treated him.

I think Crap Channel has runited talk radio in Tampa, Miami and other places.

The only thing that media monopolist wanted to do whenever it buys a station is to cut costs so more money can go to co. hqs.
Replace nearly all local staff and talent and fill as much of the day with the crutch of syndication.
Good for people like Hannity and Beck but bad for listeners who expect some local talk.

CC also owns the most powerful AM signals in Tampa. Look how weak in signal WWBA is.
That gives the media giant more leverage to control and ruin the market.

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I do hope WWBA makes some headway. I am obviously no fan of CC and what the megaopolist has done to radio.
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Don62 said:
Tells you something about the wall-to-wall syndicated conservative talk station.Didn't WWBA's PD or sometihing come on the air after losing Hannity and say they were going to do more local programming? I frankly would rather hear a good local host talk about local, state, and national issues than another syndicated show I hear in every other city.The station had the chance to bring some interesting non-cookie-cutter programming in but once again chickened out and went the easy route.
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'WBA filled Hannity's spot with a local show. They tried something different and they've lost half their audience. Looks like in a market like Tampa, people like conservo-talkers like Hannity. I don't think that's a surprise to anyone. Want to know what's worse than wall to wall syndicated conservative talk? How 'bout wall to wall syndicated LIBERAL talk.
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What a load of crap. I said nothing of that nature.
I don't want wall to wall syndicated anything. Can't CC or Cox or Cumulus afford even one local drive-time talk show?

You jerks going to come here on these boards and argue those radio giants can't afford to pay salaries?
 
How about trying some alternative Tampa Bay talk? American AM, M-F, 7-9am, WWPR 1490 AM, online stream at www.americanam.com , www.radiopower.org . Podcast at http://americanam.podomatic.com/
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How about getting a real promotional budget instead of wasting time on a message board that isn't made up of your potential audience? How about trying to get on a station without paying? The difference between having a paid talk show and a real talk show is the difference between having a hooker and having a girlfriend. I support progressive talk radio but as a format on stations real people can hear, not pay-for-play on walkie-talkies like WWPR. You couldn't even hold onto your time slot without the conservative fireman who buys time messing with you.
 
Low be it me to try and defend these guys Smedge, but... I was down that way a few weeks ago and heard the show. It was very good. Fast moving, entertaining and nice.

But guys.... Buying time is so Rocky Dee. Or Glenn Kline Online...or Chris Brown.
 
The difference between having a paid talk show and a real talk show is the difference between having a hooker and having a girlfriend.

So I guess that blow-up doll gives you the best of both worlds. Oh yeah, the "fireman" was gone months ago ... no commercial support.

I support progressive talk radio

Good luck finding it in Florida outside of Miami unless you make it happen yourself.
 
HAAAAAAH Smedge that's GREAT!

"The difference between having a paid talk show and a real talk show is the difference between having a hooker and having a girlfriend."

So is 1490 like the women on Dale Mabry (the ones in front of the Szhecuan restaurant that bang on your car)..and 570 is like the ones that hang out at the bar at the Hyatt?

Not that I would know first hand about such things..

These producers that pay their way are fine for business, and if they can turn a dollar ot two for themselves and the station can stay on the air..who loses..It's no worse than the famous goat gland Dr. Brinkley who bought time on XERF and beamed a snazzy mix of ultra conservative gab with ersatz medical warnings that got thousands of men to travel to sunny Mexico and have slices of goat inserted into their better intentions. And XERF wasn't cheap! It makes radio listening all the more interesting..for as long as you can stand it.

Talk radio WAS great around here in the 70's especially..John Eastman, Rosemary Hadaad, Jay Bortz (remember him on 1250?) and of course the WPLP crew including David Gold, Dave Fowler, Tim Coles, Drew Hayes etc..and even that goofy WEND at 760..with Chuck Harder, and Jack Ellery..even Stan Major (get the intern to go out and start my car)..what a character..all out of Tampa Bay, and ALL local..then Dick Norman, Lassiter, Mark Larson..Liz Richards, local talent was KING.. Sportsline with the amazing Mark Champion was ultra-cool NATIONAL quality sports talk..The Fabulous Sports babe started here and SHE was local..Local sells, Local attracts..WHY has it all gone to the Hannity's, Limbaugh's Savage's and O'Reilly's out there..is it because they are cheap shows? OR is it just easier, and less frustrating to deal with when the talent it 600 miles away?
 
WHY has it all gone to the Hannity's, Limbaugh's Savage's and O'Reilly's out there..is it because they are cheap shows? OR is it just easier, and less frustrating to deal with when the talent it 600 miles away?
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From the much-maligned (generally by people who haven't read it or need to set up straw men to whip up their audiences) Center for American Progress report on talk radio:

"In short, the removal of ownership limits created artificial economies of scale for syndicated programming (dominated by conservative talk). Because of the size of corporate radio holdings, this business model was profitable even if localism declined and local tastes and needs were not suitably matched."
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Talk radio WAS great around here in the 70's especially
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I would rank Tampa as the number two market for exciting talk radio in the 70s and 80s behind Miami. In terms of the number of people it sent to the big leagues, maybe fourth or fifth behind New York, LA, SF, Miami.


So is 1490 like the women on Dale Mabry (the ones in front of the Szhecuan restaurant that bang on your car)..and 570 is like the ones that hang out at the bar at the Hyatt?
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I would characterize 1490, 1340 and 1280 as being like the women on Nebraska Avenue. The higher-wattage stations are like the ones who used to hang out at Malio's before it got torn down. Hypnotized by gold watches and such. "I know what you are... we're just negotiating the price tag."
 
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