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They moved the Linden channel to Waynesboro and dropped a new channel into Linden to replace it.
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WWON in the Radio-Info Spotlight
- Thread starter jetfli
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This new FM will hurt Chris' chances of selling WWON. Given a choice advertisers always prefer their ads on FM versus AM. He may want to take his best offer and run. That is if he has any offer.
How come we never hear from Chris Lash on this board anymore?
Seems as though I read in one string here somewhere that he had been kicked off the board.
Is that true? If so, why?
How about going over again in a nutshell what happened in Waynesboro and in general?
He was all over the place for a while and even came to town looking at a station here.
He had some kind of deal made with these owners to swap some stations or LMA's or something-then,
the sudden disappearing act.
What gives?
???
Seems as though I read in one string here somewhere that he had been kicked off the board.
Is that true? If so, why?
How about going over again in a nutshell what happened in Waynesboro and in general?
He was all over the place for a while and even came to town looking at a station here.
He had some kind of deal made with these owners to swap some stations or LMA's or something-then,
the sudden disappearing act.
What gives?
???
Mr. Lash was kicked off of radio-info. I don't know all the details.
Here are the details again. In July a couple from Branson, who wanted to move back to Tennessee, came to the Lashes, and then signed a two year LMA agreement, taking over September 1st. The Lashes then moved to Florida to take over an FM in Palm Coast.
Three weeks into the LMA, the Branson folks let the stations employee go. A week later, they called the Lashes and said they were leaving, breaking the LMA deal.
So the Lashes are now stuck in Florida, and operating the station from there. Still producing the same revenue numbers as before. The station is on satt., still doing its local sports, (Wayne County, Vols and Titans) as well as news, and a daily show, from Florida.
The station price has come down, and it remains a solid radio station for someone who is willing to work it, as a first time buyer, or as an additional station to a small group.
In the meantime, the Lashes are being talked about on the North Florida or Orlando boards. Praised to be exact for what they've done in fixing the oldies FM they took over last August.
Here are the details again. In July a couple from Branson, who wanted to move back to Tennessee, came to the Lashes, and then signed a two year LMA agreement, taking over September 1st. The Lashes then moved to Florida to take over an FM in Palm Coast.
Three weeks into the LMA, the Branson folks let the stations employee go. A week later, they called the Lashes and said they were leaving, breaking the LMA deal.
So the Lashes are now stuck in Florida, and operating the station from there. Still producing the same revenue numbers as before. The station is on satt., still doing its local sports, (Wayne County, Vols and Titans) as well as news, and a daily show, from Florida.
The station price has come down, and it remains a solid radio station for someone who is willing to work it, as a first time buyer, or as an additional station to a small group.
In the meantime, the Lashes are being talked about on the North Florida or Orlando boards. Praised to be exact for what they've done in fixing the oldies FM they took over last August.
One of us has our details wrong. It could be me but what I understood is that Dr. Flynn won the CP auction for Linden and has since applied to have the City of License changed to Waynesboro. I didn't know KLove was involved at all. What have I missed?
radiofan4life said:
If they're running KLove, I can assure they have no intention of serving the community the way the Lashes have. Especially if Dr. Flynn says he doesn't like running stations.
I've known Chris for years, and he's a firm believer in full-service, community-focused radio. I don't know of any for-profit outfit (other than Salem) that has made money with K-Love.
Thus, I don't think WWON has a thing to worry about.
Last I checked Dr. Flynn's company was very good at running their own stations. They may indeed sell the station once the CP is complete but I believe in order to sell something it would require a buyer who is willing to meet your price. Today KLove is looking at translators more so than stations because they can be acquired with much less capital. They also are not a network provider allowing anyone to use their programming. Salem does not have anything to do with KLove. My guess is that Dr. Flynn will either hire a staff to concentrate on the Florence market with a minor emphasis on Waynesboro (where he is required to serve by the FCC) or he will use a broker to seek out the highest paying buyer. One thing for sure, he will not offer it to KLove out of the goodness of his heart for a discounted price.
Sorry, who am I to question your knowledge of Dr. Flynn (actually it's Dr. Flinn). Didn't mean to strike a nerve with you. I was just summing up the situation as I see it. That's all. I think there might be several in the industry that would disagree with your assessment of George Flinn. He has managed to run the 26 stations he currently owns pretty well. My guess is that he might say something like he doesn't think he runs them that well. He is a truly professional businessman respected by many. I wish nothing but positive things for you and WWON though.
radiofan4life said:
I know that. I stated my post wrong, and for that I apologize. What I meant to say was that a Contemporary Christian music run by a for-profit company rarely succeeds...unless it's run as a duopoly pairing with something that is more profitable, or by the broadcasters who have set the standard for religious radio broadcasting: Salem Communications Corporation, which is a for-profit company.
Most CCM stations that I have heard are run by not-for-profits, usually under the umbrella of a church or other larger-scale ministry.
Most of Salem's CCM formats don't do that well, are on bad signals, and/or make little money. You are correct; I am not aware of a situation where Salem has a CCM station but no preaching/teaching station, because the P/T props up the CCM. Just like P/T props up their news/talks until they break even.
KJCB said:
That is my point. Thank you, KJCB.
I know of a handful of ministers who own commercial radio stations, and those who don't have Christian Talk are programming them with a secular format. They've typically come up from having their own shows on the radio, and when they become educated on the realities of this business, they limit CCM to weekend specialty programs.
It has nothing to do with a lack of listeners for CCM...they certainly are there. According to insideradio.com, I read a story that it's the number one format for in-car listening. However, the advertiser base that believes in the format isn't there...because of that stigma...religious radio broadcasting. You either have to run it automated to make any kinds of financial inroads or keep it as a duopoly throwaway.
The power ratio is rather low for CCM as well.
Salem actually does CCM in Nashville with no P/T to support it. I agree though it is best to have multiple formats to cross-sell. Salem has managed to do what many thought was impossible by actually selling radio advertising on a Christian formatted station. You don't actually have to beg for dollars from listeners. Imagine that!!!
Salem has perhaps the three worst FMs in the Nashville market. The gospel format on 104.7 (?) has an even lower power ratio industry-wide. But, Salem has managed to make money on religious formats. If only you could tell by their stock price.
If you've seen anything involving a group called Broadcasting for the Challenged that's a group owned by Flinn. He has sold CPs or apps to Christian stations like K-LOVE also to WAY-FM. I think Flinn's real intentions are to make a buck off groups that want to really use the frequency by competing with them for the licenses.
I know Flinn has no intentions other than to make a buck, but it has brought CCM stations into some areas that don't have them. I know that isn't the case in the Waynesboro or Florence areas with WFIX 91.3 in Florence, WZXX 88.5 in Lawrenceburg, and a K-LOVE coming soon on 90.5 in Selmer (that was also sold to them by Flinn), but it has worked out well in other areas. In looking at Flinn's website at http://www.flinn.com, apparently he owns some other stations that are being LMA'd by K-LOVE as well.
I know Flinn has no intentions other than to make a buck, but it has brought CCM stations into some areas that don't have them. I know that isn't the case in the Waynesboro or Florence areas with WFIX 91.3 in Florence, WZXX 88.5 in Lawrenceburg, and a K-LOVE coming soon on 90.5 in Selmer (that was also sold to them by Flinn), but it has worked out well in other areas. In looking at Flinn's website at http://www.flinn.com, apparently he owns some other stations that are being LMA'd by K-LOVE as well.
You are right about the stock in Salem. Not something you would want to move your 401K into for sure. I guess we'll just have to wait and see about Dr. Flinn's intentions with Waynesboro. I can't imagine KLove LMAing it but stranger things have happened. With what he would have invested in the CP plus the legal fees, engineering fees and who knows what else he would have to have one healthy monthly LMA to make it worth his while. He may get a pretty good write off with KLove being a NFP.
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