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WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM Ask For Votes On Programming

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I just got an e-mail from WXKS-AM/WKOX-AM offering me an opportunity to vote vote on whom I'd like to hear from noon-till-3 pm: Ed Schultz; Thom HartmannThom Hartmann; or Al Franken. I chose Thom HartmannThom Hartman because I don't care for Ed Schultz and I believe Al Franken will pull a Jerry Springer (no he will not dance on TV) and leave radio for new ventures. The e-mail provided a click-through for the Discussion Board which had current entries, although one cannot access it directly through bostonsprogressivetalk.com.
 
I just got that e mail too, Laurence, AFTER you posted and AFTER I called the station hearing that
Ed Schultz is already getting the time slot.

According to the note the woman at the desk, Andrea, had, Schultz is scheduled for Noon to 6 PM.
Hmmm... Here's the voting tally as of 5:24 pm on Tuesday night


Submit your vote below!

You may have heard that Ed Schultz is looking to do his show live from 12-3pm. We want to know if you would be interested in hearing his show live or keeping Al Franken in the 12-3pm timeslot?


FYI, Thom Hartmann will be filling in for Al Franken.


A. Listen to Ed 12-3pm
B. Keep Al on 12-3pm
C. I'd like to hear Thom Hartmann in that timeslot

Time Slot
Give Ed the new timeslot
17.33 %
Keep Al and leave Ed 3-6pm.
58.67 %
I'd like to hear Thom Hartmann in that timeslot
24.00 %


http://bostonsprogressivetalk.com/pages/contactus.html
 
I got this in my e-mail today :

The Fat Lady is coming to Boston radio...The Fat Lady presented by Clear Channel Entertainment will be performing live at Medford studios of Boston's Progressive Talk 1200/1430 from Noon until Midnight on Jan.1st. She'll be singing Bob Marley's timeless classics such as "Exodus", "Waiting In Vain", "Turn Your Lights Down Low", "Redemption Song", "Cheer Up", "It's Alright"...Don't forget to tune in to AM 1430 or AM 1200 on Monday, Jan.1st and you'll be jammin with the Fat Lady, mon...

Varulven said:
I just got that e mail too, Laurence, AFTER you posted and AFTER I called the station hearing that
Ed Schultz is already getting the time slot.

According to the note the woman at the desk, Andrea, had, Schultz is scheduled for Noon to 6 PM.
Hmmm... Here's the voting tally as of 5:24 pm on Tuesday night


Submit your vote below!

You may have heard that Ed Schultz is looking to do his show live from 12-3pm. We want to know if you would be interested in hearing his show live or keeping Al Franken in the 12-3pm timeslot?


FYI, Thom Hartmann will be filling in for Al Franken.


A. Listen to Ed 12-3pm
B. Keep Al on 12-3pm
C. I'd like to hear Thom Hartmann in that timeslot

Time Slot
Give Ed the new timeslot
17.33 %
Keep Al and leave Ed 3-6pm.
58.67 %
I'd like to hear Thom Hartmann in that timeslot
24.00 %


http://bostonsprogressivetalk.com/pages/contactus.html
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Boston Radio Watch says WILD is back to black-oriented talk as they were before

http://www.bostonradiowatch.com

"It's not immediately clear as to why WILD-AM 1090 has flipped back to a liberal talk format geared toward African American listeners, but the move could possibly signal an anticipated shake-up for progressive talk format on Clear Channel's WKOX AM 1200 and WXKS AM 1430 which could be looking at the new format options come first of the year."

I've mentioned in the past btw that among the formats not really heard in Boston is classic country. Well
technically on WKLB-HD2 there IS classic country (you can sample it, as I did today, on their site). But
it seems focused mostly on 80s & 90s with some 60s-70s cuts --wish there was more slightly older stuff.

BRW also says the secondary HD channel of WTKK is going to Irish...will they play The Irish Belly Dancer
by Dapper O'Neil?
http://riktinory.com/Dapper O'Neil.htm
 
Varulven said:
Move Boston's Progressive Talk to THE ZONE 1510 AM
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Like it is even possible that there is a 50kW radio station in Boston with absolutely no ratings right now. This can not be the case because anyone who reads these boards knows that WKOX/WXKS gets the lowest ratings in Boston- wait! what am I saying- they get no ratings at all! ???

It is interesting how you get a screwy sense of reality from the posters here. Too much "agenda" on the Boston board...
 
brightonboris said:
I got this in my e-mail today :

The Fat Lady is coming to Boston radio...The Fat Lady presented by Clear Channel Entertainment will be performing live at Medford studios of Boston's Progressive Talk 1200/1430 from Noon until Midnight on Jan.1st. She'll be singing Bob Marley's timeless classics such as "Exodus", "Waiting In Vain", "Turn Your Lights Down Low", "Redemption Song", "Cheer Up", "It's Alright"...Don't forget to tune in to AM 1430 or AM 1200 on Monday, Jan.1st and you'll be jammin with the Fat Lady, mon...
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1430 or 1200??

Some time ago I got a reply from someone at the station on the discussion board that Big Ed was the biggest moneymaker for them- if Jones says jump, I bet they will. I wonder if WXKS will continue as Progressive talk with Bill Press, Stephanie Miller, and Big Eddie on til 3, followed by Randi and Maddow. Otherwise why are there all these changes going on? Might as well just leave it alone if indeed the Fat Lady is singing. Seems like they wouldn't send out e-mail alerts and switch stuff around at the last minute- what would be the point?
 
::)

Personally...I think that ANY RADIO STATION (in ANY MARKET) is in a better position to 'experiment' with their programming...than radio stations that come in at #1 or #2?

Unfortunately, 'creative thought' has been buried under a consultant's edict that the only way anybody can get listeners during the day...is by programming the familiar formats? It doesn't matter if their playlists, talent or 'execution' is any good?

If a FORMAT is FAMILIAR it gives a listener....security!

Forget the fact that it probably also gives me "an ulcer" or a reason to listen to a different source....like a music CD or perhaps a different radio station? :eek:

Do you think the day will arrive when we can stop letting 'outsiders' determine the type of programs we should carry? Wouldn't it make more sense to go directly to some of the listeners (what's left of 'em)....INSTEAD?? ???

argytunes
 
BALLOT--What Would You Like To Hear On WXKS/WKOX?

--Spanish
--Classic soul
--Smooth jazz
--Religion
--Al Franken reading the phone book (would get same ratings AAR currently gets)
 
Raccoon, gloating about the fact that the Bush-motivated Clear Channel only picked up AAR to ensure they wouldn't get exposure in this city is really a sad commentary. In a blue state where few - if any - of the people you chose to represent you - were elected it is obvious that the listening public does NOT want to hear about
Kelly Healey, or the anti-Deval Patrick commentary that was broadcast on the alleged "talk" station.

If there were a level playing field here - if AAR was broadcast on WTKK - we could have a debate.

The other problem - besides the fact that Clear Channel has done next to no promotion, has awful psa's and dreadful commercials - is that Stephanie Miller and Al Franken are not as smooth as Bill Maher or Michael Moore.

Best thing I can tell you - The Democrats swept the cronies out of the House and Senate; we have plenty of
Governors on our side, including Rino Arnold in KAAHlifornia, and we've done it despite the propaganda on two powerful 50,000 watt stations. WRKK and WTKO have had no effect on the election. WTKO is what they
both are. Technical Knock Out.
 
for the record I'm unenrolled and voted for almost as many Democrats as Republicans--but mostly because they were unopposed. If Entercom thought AAR would make them money they would have gone to them long ago.
If I were you I'd email WTKK and suggest that if WKOXKS goes down they pick up the likes of Steph Miller
who would be a good alternative to what they air now: the last hour of Don-O, and The Plagiarist...btw if what Donna H said is true (about KTLK going to espanol in LA) that would mark the second time that Steph loses
her flagship but continues in syndication anyway. At least Jones would keep the show going for a lot
longer than 3 months (which is what ABC Radio did after KABC replaced Steph with Mr. KABC)

If Clear Channel were Bush-motivated, wouldn't they have put the likes of Rush, Drudge, etc. on 1200/1430?
 
WXKS-WKOX may be averaging about a .5 in the ratings, but Salem's prized WTTT (1150) shows less....if they show at all. The same in most markets with the Salem talk format.

However, Salem has deep pockets and will keep this strange blend of Religo-Conservative talk alive regardless. Talk about agenda, these people take the cake!

BTW, I heard (I think it was) Hugh Hewitt on Salem make a remark about how bad AAR does in the ratings because people don't want to hear Liberals blah blah blah. Hugh did not elaborate on his own ratings, nor the large cushion of Salem buckeroos proping him up.
 
Yes I've heard overall Salem's conservatalk doesn't do well in ratings but maybe they break even or
make a very slight profit in billing.

In Indianapolis, a Christian contemporary station owned not by Salem but Cumulus is going to
conservatalk (syndie--on FM yet, 93.9) on 12/26: Hannity, Ingraham, Doyle, Savage
 
raccoonradio said:
If Clear Channel were Bush-motivated, wouldn't they have put the likes of Rush, Drudge, etc. on 1200/1430?
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No, because they didn't want to sacrifice those shows to those weak signals. Even if they didn't own the stronger station on which they were airing (WRKO), they knew it was advantageous for those programs which they syndicated to keep them on the stronger signal.

A number of years ago before AAR existed, when CC first applied for the WKOX 1200 upgrade to Newton, the local industry buzz (strong rumor) was that they WERE planning to launch a conservative talk station to compete with WRKO, and planning to move all their conservative syndicated talk fare (Rush, Drudge, etc... and at the time Dr. Laura) to the new 1200 once the signal was blasting 50 kW into Boston from Newton.

However, as we know, the 1200 upgrade approval was delayed a half-dozen years by the City of Newton, and as long as the transmitter was stuck in Framingham with 10 kW day/1 kW night, CC knew that it would not work to launch a competing format to 50 kW WRKO on it, and it would have been disadvantageous for their own syndicated shows to remove them from WRKO and put them on the weaker signal.

Remember, this was a few years before AAR existed, so it was not yet even an option for WKOX at the time. Since 1200 was stuck in Framingham, CC left the previous brokered ethnic programming on it for the time being.

Meanwhile, a few years later, AAR and other syndicated Progressive Talk network shows (Jones, etc...) came along, and 1200 was still stuck in Framingham. Given that situation, CC decided that they would try putting those shows on 1200 (and 1430, another signal that would have also been foolish for them to have tried moving their own syndicated shows off of WRKO for).

CC doesn't own or syndicate AAR, Jones, etc.. so they took no hit by putting them on their weak AM signals, as they would have if they had taken their own syndie programs off of the powerful WRKO signal and put them there.

It does raise the question of what will happen when the new 1200 upgrade finally does make it to the air next year, and reports are that new construction at the Newton site has actually finally started. With a 50 kW WKOX, will CC go back to their (alleged) original plan and go conservative and yank Rush, etc... off of WRKO and put them there? Will AAR still even exist? Will 1200 have already gone back to ethnic (along with 1430)? Will CC still even own the station by then? All I can say is, stay tuned...
 
Eli, AAR was a "first step" for Progressive Talk, but not the be all and end all. Jones Radio Network appeared out of nowhere and seems to be doing better. With Democrats controlling the House and Senate be pleasantly surprised when more Progressive talk comes into the public consciousness. There doesn't seem to be any grand scheme a la the GOP saturation of the mainstream radio media, but when a Bill Maher/Michael Moore/Al Gore type goes on the airwaves, it will strengthen the A list Randi Rhodes/Ed Schultz/Rachel M personalities.

Also, watch for more sports radio to go to FM opening up AM airwaves for Progressive Talk. If Entercom didn't win the rights, say WBOS went BOSton Red Sox like everyone thought would happen, would WRKO swing more to the left? Would WBOS have knocked WEEI for a loop? And why doesn't Stephen Mindich start taking the Progressive Talk format for his radio empire? I think that's a perfect fit with the Boston Phoenix and a chance for that company to get bigger and clearer signals. Why compete with the monoliths when there is a viable format that needs to be heard?
 
<<WXKS-WKOX may be averaging about a .5 in the ratings, but Salem's prized WTTT (1150) shows less....if they show at all.>>

IMHO, we should bring back 1150, W-C-O-P, with their 60s and 70s music formats ;D
 
>>Jones Radio Network appeared out of nowhere and seems to be doing better. With Democrats controlling the House and Senate be pleasantly surprised when more Progressive talk comes into the public consciousness.

Exactly, as I have mentioned. I also mentioned in the past that Mindich might have considered putting AAR
or some kind of progtalk on WFNX.
Sports talk or talk on FM is in many cities (and indeed we do have WTKK here)--like it or not. It's kind of
bad that WMKK doesn't cover all of the Boston area--that would have been a great home for "talk 'n' Sox".
Var.'s idea of, say, sports radio moving to FM thus opening some AM freqs for prog. talk--who knows,
could happen. In a couple places there were FMs carrying prog. talk (Madison WI I think, but they're
losing it; Montana, etc.) already.

1200/1430 blessed with signals not as good as a 680, 1030, or 96.9, though at least when I've driven
around they were half decent during the day when most people listen to talk radio. Content/quality of
shows is a key: the AARs like Franken were fine for the really dedicated progressives, the so-called
Moonbats, but may have turned off moderates and certainly conservatives. There's a big moderate
audience out there (and yes, left & right of course) and the Jones Gang seems to be on the right track...
 
>>With a 50 kW WKOX, will CC go back to their (alleged) original plan and go conservative and yank Rush, etc... off of WRKO and put them there?

We now know that apparently CC will indeed go ethnic, as in this Rumba format, but who's to say that in a year or so after the 50kW WKOX shows up, that maybe CC will gamble with doing conservative talk as has been
rumored? Perhaps depends on how the 1200/1430 combo does with Spanish-language music...
 
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